Why no more HFH reviews?

[David L]

Could someone please fill me in? Why are there no more HFH reviews allowed on massageplanet.net?

 

[MissNewmarketSalsa]

Because Kayla asked that we not post any more.

 

[zara]

Why is that? It was always very well reviewed.

 

[Ann O]

I want to talk to Kayla, is she a massageplanet.net-member?

 

[My Boy]

There is a history to it. This thread may give you some flavour as to why.

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=34442&highlight=cameron

 

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who's Kayla??

 

[JAMES]

Because ... of bylaws and the politics relating to them. The bottom line is that it's not feasible for moderators to keep on top of every review 24/7 and edit them appropriately. So, it's better to nip the problem in the bud so to speak.

Ultimately it would be better if reviews were put on the back burner, until they could be edited within what are deamed to be the guidelines, if a moderator were so inclined to do so ...

These threads may give you some insight into the big picture.

Some insight from Kayla on the subject : http://massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29708&perpage=9&highlight=bylaws&pagenumber=6

Goober ( may he RIP ) answers a question :
http://massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28124&highlight=bylaws

cont'd - questions still on peoples minds:
http://massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26592&highlight=bylaws

Sheik's announcement :
http://massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26505&highlight=bylaws

 

[chacoa]

thanks pool

 

[Kds]

Wow that was a lot of reading! Geez, ask a simple question...

I agree with the thought to tone things down a bit. After all, shouldn't LE have to at least do SOME work with our tax dollars. Why give them a road map to the hot spots? I think that the utility of this board would not be greatly diminished if some details were skipped. For example, knowing that you will consistently get ripped off at a particular place is useful information even if details of "extras" are absent.
I think that the bylaw argument is a valid and reasonable one.

As for popular MPA's eventually offering sessions that fall short of expectations, all I can say is that popularity inevitably breeds mediocrity.

 

[Estella]

Well said.

 

[Goethe]

Very well said indeed. However, this does not have to be true. There are some girls in this business (Alexis @ IT, Ivana @ *F*) who have stayed grounded despite their popularity.

An analogy is girls who are 7's and 8's are much better in bed than girls who are 9's and 10's, simply because they cant coast on their supermodel looks. In the end, we create our own demons through rave reviews and constantly holding them up to be some sort of MPA icon.

 

[Bonsaifweek]

Well said.

 

[Miss 6]

you can do reviews - just don't mention anything explicit or the name of the spa...like this *F*(most people will know)

as for mpa...be creative with their names...for example

tarah - the unmentionable one, Lady T.....etc
Cameron - the girl with the far away eyes, hook on C...etc
Ivana - tits ahoy...etc
brittney - chandler's girlfriend janice...etc
Jennifer - the mpa who recently pass her driving exam, sweetness

I think IT Paul posted that we can write reviews...just don't be a jackass about it and post anything too explicit

 

[Lisa N]

I think that it was this ode to HFH written by Rusty that was the culprit. Kayla has long suspected that Rusty is an informer who writes encoded messages to LE in his flowery poems:

Happy 3rd anniversary HFH.......

Three years, and still I am in love with you!
What river does not deepen as it flows?
Each day my love increases as it goes,
Nourishing the lands through which it moves.
The love that lasts is deeper far than passion.
Years pass and it abides beneath the light.
Few know the secrets of its dark delight,
Intent on all the toys that are in fashion.
Vivid lusts yield pleasures that soon cease.
Each year of my love for you yields happiness and peace

 

[Polly <3]

There is simply no evidence LE really looks at this board. The escort board has been posting explicit reviews and naming names openly for 4 years. In that time, there have only been 2 agencies busted: Fire and Desire and the "Yellow Pages" agency. Neither was reviewed on massageplanet.net. No other escort agency has ever been busted in that time, no matter how often and how luridly they have been mentioned on this site.

The cops cannot use the pseudonymous posts on TEB as "evidence" of anything - even to get a search warrant. All the anecdotes I get from girls suggest that LE gets its info by visiting the spas and chatting to the girls and customers undercover. That's the way the cops have ALWAYS done things.

While I sympathize with agency owners who are hyper-nervous in the wake of the recent blitzes, I think the last place they should blame is massageplanet.net. And the censorship of good reviews has really made the massage board a bit of a lame joke. I'm sure most of the regular massage spa guys are posting on their own private DB's and ignoring massageplanet.net at this point.

 

[Sunsu]

Oagre,

The problem is that we are not just dealing with "escort agencies" and "cops". We are dealing with MP's and bylaws officers ( a very different creature, figuratively speaking ) There is no point in my reiterating what has already been said.

PS I still care about massageplanet.net, but then again I'm not exactly a "regular" MP guy ...

Peelcowboy,

Yes, review boards are meant for reviews, but if they contribute to the eventual loss of a spas license, then there would be no MPA's at said spa to review.

I agree that ultimately reviews should only be monitored. The problem is that they cannot be monitored 24 hrs a day and by nipping the problem in the bud, it lessens the chance of reviews being posted that are not suitable.

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But, if it is widely known as to what the guidelines are within each region, that in itself should be a deterrent in posting reviews that imply extras. I think we have reached that point if people take the time to read, understand the reasoning and agree. ( Ironically, it is those who oppose or do not [ refuse to ] understand the "censorship" that, in fact, contribute to it's necessity). If that's the case and people agree, IMO It's possible that reviews could be posted and monitored. ( but wtf do I know )

So, instead of protesting, maybe if everyone agreed to concede to the requests of their favourite spa ( I assume you like the place if you want to be able to review and talk abt it ), then reviews and posts could be posted and everyone would be happy. I love happy endings ... ( who am I kidding - some people would be happy )

 

[Olivia]

Please tell me this was a joke?

 

[Mrs. Brightside]

I agree. The LE/bylaw officer excuses just don't add up. If I am not mistaken, only 1 spa owner requested for no review of any kind. That presumably would prevent inadvertent explicit details posted here being used by the LE/bylaw officer. Does that mean that all other spas are immuned from such threat? Could no amount of explicit details posted here get IT or Iletmos or Silhouette into trouble with their own bylaw officers? I must be missing something.

 

[Pompal 09.]

You think I'd joke about such a thing, Mad Dog?! Oh sure, on the surface Rusty may come across as a good-natured, innocent goofball, but underneath that David Spade veneer lurks a nefarious religious fanatic whose mission in life is to bring about an end to all hobbying. And you have to realize that his buddy "Built Blonde Guy" is in fact an alias for Police Chief Fantino. Don't trust the little rascal I say.....

 

[Miuccia]

Interesting debate. A few thoughts to add:
1) Who really believes that the cops and LE are not aware of what goes on behind the closed and windowed doors of the spas?
2) While massageplanet.net print-outs may be used in confronting owners with at best circumstantial evidence of smoke, but not necessarily fire...is it really the determining factor in to raid or not? Are the massageplanet.net reviews part of the evidence for fines/licence re-voctions or are the undercover operations the only direct evidence used?
3) A review board is a review board...it needs reviews to be of any use to anyone....if we are too cute in our "coding" of experiences, no one will know what we are talking about...some discretion is good to be sure...but surely not limited to the allowable wording of the licence by-laws.
4)There are numerous reviews of AC despite much publicized letters from lawyers etc. ... It appears they weren't allowed to have all reviews of their establishment dropped from the board...how did Kayla and HFH accomplish this? Special set of rules for this extremely fine establishment? It is one of the best spas in town and historically is extremely well reviewed...I'd like to see it back on the board.
Random thoughts, questions on a rainy afternoon
Cheers