Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

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So.. when it rains it pours! This past week I have had 2 clients that presented with kyphosis and 1 with scoliosis. Just curious if anyone has some advice as far as specialized treatment for these conditions>? I did full body sessions for all 3, focusing some extra time on the back and the neck/shoulders and chest. I don't have much experience with this type of structural dysfunction, but my new practice has a lot of older clientele and my intakes are becoming longer and more complex! I would appreciate any help!!!
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

First, check out the book Clinical Massage Therapy by Rattray. It has specifics for Scoliosis.
You could also check out the website http://www.DeepTissue.com.
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

Is that structural dysfunction the reason they were getting massage? If it is, referring to someone with the specialized training is in order. But, if it was, they probably would have gone looking for someone with the specialized training. First....ask what they want in their session. Then find out if they WANT an on-going treatment plan. Some will jump at it, some will just want to get a massage when they want a massage.

As you have time, interest, money and energy, get whatever specialized training you want and need. Clients and their bodies will pique your interest in many ways. Go for it and learn, and if they want that, try out techniques - I'm assuming a few people will chime in here with technique tips for you - just be careful of assuming that because you are presented with something, you are expected to fix it right now. It IS fascinating and fun!!! Hang onto that curiosity.....but know what the client wants.
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

I've actually observed these conditions being greatly reduced & gradually cleared through good Structural Integration techniques such as Aaron Mattes's
Active Isolated Stretching (AIS), as well as the KMI method by Tom Meyers. It does require multiple sessions & that the client to do some serious work to strengthen their weaker side, as well as releasing the tension/restriction from the regions that are overly tight. But the results are amazing!

Hopefully Jason will chime in as he has training in this modality.
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

I've seen a number of clients over the years with kyphosis/scoliosis who all have shown improvements in posture/pain. With kyphosis it is important to open the anterior soft tissue and osseous structures, from the pelvis up through the neck. Balancing the pelvis is crucial. With scoliosis, the pelvis is often the place to start. A pelvic obliquity can frequently be the original stimulus for the scoli. Loosening structure higher up will often fail to hold if the pelvic obliquity remains. There will be tightness on both sides of the trunk that must be released. Having a "tight side" is, in my opinion, just an illusion. Due to the three dimensional nature of the spinal curve and the resultant compensation in the soft tissue and ribs, the entire torso must be released. With a more level base (pelvis), the likelihood of the client retaining the more neutral posture improves.

Exercise is always an asset, but there truly is not a weak side.
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

Thanks for all the great advice so far!

Walt - Can you explain a little more about working the anterior torso? Would I be focusing on releasing areas like the illiospoas and the abdominal muscles? And how far up should I work? Like the rib and pectoral areas?
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

The anterior structures would be the entire trunk (abs, intercostals, psoas, anterior shoulders/pecs, etc.) Use positional aids, for example working with your client extended over a pillow or bolster to aid in opening them up into extension. Don't forget the pelvis and upper thighs, as they play a big role in holding the person forward.
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

These conditions are stubborn and require the client to assume responsibility for their recovery, perform any assigned "homework", and review back on how their body responds to the movements. Neuromuscular reeducation is a process of reprogramming the software to realign and alter the hardware.

I have seen some significant success with these conditions. In all cases I used Active Isolated Stretching (AIS) as the primary modality. There is a strengthening aspect to AIS protocols that MTs may be able to employ when working with these conditions.

As a personal trainer, I used AIS but also found it useful to also use a variety of other exercises targeted to develop strength in "weak" areas through a gradually increasing range of motion. (i.e. Cobra pose, Hindu pushups, Divebombers, Table pose, Wheel pose (bridges), etc. for hyperkyphosis).

Another aspect to these conditions: Frequency of bodywork sessions can play a huge role. Weekly for 2-4 months should be a minimum depending on severity. Ideally, I'd prefer 2-3 sessions per week for 2-4 months. This would be enough for them to see/feel significant changes and develop sufficient compensatory strengths to reasonably expect long term positive results.
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

Thanks for all of the great imput, I'm really interested in trying out some of these new moves!
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

Jenn@AttunedMotion said:
Thanks for all of the great imput, I'm really interested in trying out some of these new moves!

Let us know how your continuing ed experiences work for you. AIS, Structural Integration/Rolfing, and MFR are broad and deep modalities that offer both complementary AND contradictory approaches to treating complex conditions. I feel that the common points among them are more easily understood once you grasp the concept of biotensegrity. The text Anatomy Trains does a nice job of exploring the concept and the role of fascia, serving as a good introductory text. It is a great complement to the diverse texts available on AIS, MFR, etc.
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

WaltFritz said:
Use positional aids, for example working with your client extended over a pillow or bolster to aid in opening them up into extension.

Walt! Thanks for this comment. Obviously it makes great sense. Now why have I never used it?!? Will get to that, this week. :)
 
Working on clients with kyphosis and scoliosis

I really love everyone's input on this board! Everyone has really inspired me to try new things! I feel like my style is constantly evolving as I begin to incorporate more new things into my sessions! I had a client come in for a 80 min hot stone at the beginning of Jan, and she returned last week for another, and commented on how I did "something" different this session. She said it was really great that I "remembered" the things and areas she liked and how it was even better than her last session. (Side note, I always try to update my soap notes right after a session so I can mark the areas we worked, what the client did and didn't like, etc and then I just refresh before the session!) I told her all of my sessions are individualized to the clients needs and wants, and since I have a "whole bag of tricks" I would be happy to show her a variety of techniques as we continued working together. =) It's so wonderful to be able to educate clients on the many different things massage can offer!
 
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    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday Wednesday Thursday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy come back,very good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience ๐ŸŽQ Judy nice friendly,strong ,back walk,improving your overall health๐Ÿ”ฅ
  33. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  34. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament pink,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Vicky , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  35. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Cherry , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anika ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young pretty Mia 25โ€™s tall good massage and young sweet Emma 30โ€™s with curve body good massage,young cute Sophia 27โ€™s slime and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: ELLA (12pm-9pm) is a small & curvy young white girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, BLONDE HAIR, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. JENNY: is young , C cup, big ass, from Taiwan, Passionate
  38. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธMaria๐ŸŒธAnnaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy CINDY is slim & incredible
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, MIMI, & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. KELLY is a young Singaporean lady with liberal skills. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty.
  43. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Bella and Kiki work
  44. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl New girl Maggie ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜sexy body, round buttocks, charming breasts, small nipples (customer feedback) ๐Ÿ˜˜super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at an
  45. grape_islove420:
    Blue lagoon
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's our sneak peek for tomorrow: On Tuesday March 11, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ˜, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Ivy ๐Ÿฅฐ, Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ and Monica โค๏ธ See you then! Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  47. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Top Star Jenny, ๐Ÿ†• Yoyo, Suki, Cindy, Kelly, Yui, Busty Echo, JPN Yui & Juliet โ€” ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  48. New spring spa@:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Latino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
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