Have you got the Vaccine

Have you got the vaccine?

  • I already got the vaccine

    Votes: 510 82.5%
  • I have an appointment scheduled

    Votes: 9 1.5%
  • I'm still undecided

    Votes: 8 1.3%
  • I'm waiting to see how things go

    Votes: 23 3.7%
  • I'm not getting the vaccine

    Votes: 68 11.0%

  • Total voters
    618
Got 2nd shot already last week, was down with fever and headache for 2 days. Then absolutely all fine from then on. Will be happy to avoid masks after 2 weeks

Oh ya? Where do you live? They havent changed that here in Ontario yet.

It's funny, your second shot sounds like me with my first. Hardly anything on my second. Just the weight off my shoulders and the anticipation of getting out and travelling building!

It's a much better feeling than scouring the dark web for anti-vax ideology and spamming it here. Way better things that we will be allowed to do that these children will not be able to.... their FREEDOM is going to cost them just that.... freedom.
 
Oh ya? Where do you live? They havent changed that here in Ontario yet.

It's funny, your second shot sounds like me with my first. Hardly anything on my second. Just the weight off my shoulders and the anticipation of getting out and travelling building!

It's a much better feeling than scouring the dark web for anti-vax ideology and spamming it here. Way better things that we will be allowed to do that these children will not be able to.... their FREEDOM is going to cost them just that.... freedom.
Ontario only. Looks like you have not read the updated Health guidelines for Fully Vaccinated people:

 
Ontario only. Looks like you have not read the updated Health guidelines for Fully Vaccinated people:


Thatโ€™s in a private setting, Iโ€™m sorry,
I thought you were referring to public settings. Pretty much all stores will still have the mask requirement. As will public transit, airports and planes etc etc. It will be interesting to hear when the province makes masks optional as a whole. I wonder if it will be the honour system like the states.

cause you know, everyone tells the truth!
 
Oh ya? Where do you live? They havent changed that here in Ontario yet.

It's funny, your second shot sounds like me with my first. Hardly anything on my second. Just the weight off my shoulders and the anticipation of getting out and travelling building!

It's a much better feeling than scouring the dark web for anti-vax ideology and spamming it here. Way better things that we will be allowed to do that these children will not be able to.... their FREEDOM is going to cost them just that.... freedom.

Do you have proof of vaccination? What will differentiate the vaccinated from the unvaccinated?


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... If it was all about making money, then why would they care how their drug is used as long as a they're lining their pockets?

To answer your question from purely a "devil's advocate stance", I'd say it's possibly because Ivermectin costs a buck a dose and they've embarked on a search for a cure drug which will be much more expensive?

I think the censorship has has to do with a lot of the above. The general consensus is that there haven't been enough studies and there is little evidence to show that ivermectin works. So saying that it does is misinformation which leads to vaccine hesitancy, especially if it's coming from a doctor. Once actual studies are done, ( I believe a large scale one is being carried out in the UK right now) if results are positive, only then can it be used as an effective form of treatment.

Since when is science done by general consensus? Are you saying you'd be ok with credentialed and respected doctors and scientists being censored and muzzled because they don't have scientific studies backing up their claims or even their musings? Is that the yardstick we are now going to use, cuz that seems pretty stifling and draconian to me.

I saw a clip this morning of Robert Strang, Nova Scotia's chief medical officer, in which he says that rules limiting public gatherings are still needed, "in order to stop the spread of misinformation". How have we reached the point where that sentiment is acceptable??? I really believe this is only possible because modern day folks do not understand the value of their civic freedoms and how difficult it was to win them.
 
Do you have proof of vaccination? What will differentiate the vaccinated from the unvaccinated?


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I assumed the automated gov't email you get constituted proof of vaccination, since it has your personal info and says "second dose".
 
I assumed the automated gov't email you get constituted proof of vaccination, since it has your personal info and says "second dose".

Oh ok, I didnโ€™t know that was valid, since it can be faked.
I wonder if anyone will enforce these measures. Doesnโ€™t seem to be happening in the US. But we have a different system here. I assume there will be many legal challenges in both directions.


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Since when is science done by general consensus? Are you saying you'd be ok with credentialed and respected doctors and scientists being censored and muzzled because they don't have scientific studies backing up their claims or even their musings? Is that the yardstick we are now going to use, cuz that seems pretty stifling and draconian to me.
Umm, scientific consensus is a thing. It always has been.

Trump is respected by many and when with zero proof, he suggested ingesting bleach/disinfectant could be a potential solution, many people took his word as gospel. People were hospitalized and states fielded hundreds of emergency hotline calls from people calling to double-check.

People in positions of power have to be careful with how they address certain things, especially when there is no scientific evidence to back up their claims. If people on random forums want to spread misinformation then that's fine. But if you don't believe that people who hold influence should be held to a higher standards, then we have very different views on what is actually considered draconian.
 
Umm, scientific consensus is a thing. It always has been.

Trump is respected by many and when with zero proof, he suggested ingesting bleach/disinfectant could be a potential solution, many people took his word as gospel. People were hospitalized and states fielded hundreds of emergency hotline calls from people calling to double-check.

People in positions of power have to be careful with how they address certain things, especially when there is no scientific evidence to back up their claims. If people on random forums want to spread misinformation then that's fine. But if you don't believe that people who hold influence should be held to a higher standards, then we have very different views on what is actually considered draconian.

With respect, "no" to both these statements.

Scientific inquiry is never done by consensus. Of course it is possible to reach a consensus among scientists on any given question. For example, the scientific consensus is that the theories of evolution and gravity are most probably correct, but we don't stop inquiring into either of these fields. In a way, science is the process of questioning and finding what's wrong with what we thought we knew. The current attitudes on the big social media platforms are detrimental to this process and not good.

As for Trump and bleach....ok, you're going to believe what you believe and I don't want to get into yet another argument again, but I watched his comments live and in my opinion you have to take the most uncharitable stance possible and interpret his words completely out of context to maintain he told people to inject themselves with bleach. This is not me saying that Trump was the old sage on the mountain, it's me saying that you seem to have been duped by media reports along with millions of others, including members of my own family who just shake their heads and picture me with a MAGA hat when I make these points to them.
 
With respect, "no" to both these statements.

Scientific inquiry is never done by consensus. Of course it is possible to reach a consensus among scientists on any given question. For example, the scientific consensus is that the theories of evolution and gravity are most probably correct, but we don't stop inquiring into either of these fields. In a way, science is the process of questioning and finding what's wrong with what we thought we knew. The current attitudes on the big social media platforms are detrimental to this process and not good.

As for Trump and bleach....ok, you're going to believe what you believe and I don't want to get into yet another argument again, but I watched his comments live and in my opinion you have to take the most uncharitable stance possible and interpret his words completely out of context to maintain he told people to inject themselves with bleach. This is not me saying that Trump was the old sage on the mountain, it's me saying that you seem to have been duped by media reports along with millions of others, including members of my own family who just shake their heads and picture me with a MAGA hat when I make these points to them.
Firstly, I'm not sure what scientific inquiry has to do with a consensus. Science is all about inquiry, yes, but unless some evidence is provided to back up a claim, then it means squat. Once other scientists test said inquiry and the results are proven, then a general consensus is formed. You can't go making claims about certain things based on an inquiry that hasn't been substantiated.

In terms of Trump, I never said he told people to drink or ingest bleach. I said he suggested that it may be a solution, which he did. And while you may be intelligent enough to know that it's a stupid solution, there were many people that believed him. And if for a second you say he didn't suggest it might be an option worth exploring, you've pretty much lying to yourself and I can understand why your family pictures you that way.
 
Umm, scientific consensus is a thing. It always has been.

Trump is respected by many and when with zero proof, he suggested ingesting bleach/disinfectant could be a potential solution, many people took his word as gospel. People were hospitalized and states fielded hundreds of emergency hotline calls from people calling to double-check.

People in positions of power have to be careful with how they address certain things, especially when there is no scientific evidence to back up their claims. If people on random forums want to spread misinformation then that's fine. But if you don't believe that people who hold influence should be held to a higher standards, then we have very different views on what is actually considered draconian.

He never suggested anyone should ingest bleach/disinfectant. The people who did inject these chemicals are morons.
And the famous case of the woman who fed her husband fish tank cleaner was investigated for homicide.


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He never suggested anyone should ingest bleach/disinfectant. The people who did inject these chemicals are morons.
And the famous case of the woman who fed her husband fish tank cleaner was investigated for homicide.


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It's mind boggling people still spend time on discussing Trump and the drinking bleach story.

Why not spend time on discussing why Fauci thought it was wortwhile doing gain- of-function research in a Chinese Lab which was infamous for accidents. Oh, by the way China is an enemy. Supposedly.

(Gain-of-function studies involve altering pathogens to make them more transmissible in order to learn more about how they might mutate.)

People are fucking stupid.

What was the impact of drinking bleach by morons???

What was the impact of Fauci pursuing gain-of-function research in CHINA???
 
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Firstly, I'm not sure what scientific inquiry has to do with a consensus. Science is all about inquiry, yes, but unless some evidence is provided to back up a claim, then it means squat. Once other scientists test said inquiry and the results are proven, then a general consensus is formed. You can't go making claims about certain things based on an inquiry that hasn't been substantiated.

In terms of Trump, I never said he told people to drink or ingest bleach. I said he suggested that it may be a solution, which he did. And while you may be intelligent enough to know that it's a stupid solution, there were many people that believed him. And if for a second you say he didn't suggest it might be an option worth exploring, you've pretty much lying to yourself and I can understand why your family pictures you that way.

You've parsed your words so that I can't be sure of their meaning.

My point is simple. Reaching a consensus on a question of science is wholly different from carrying out scientific inquiry. If you punish someone for discussing or looking into an idea, that's bad. Surely we can agree on that.

On Trump, you said "he suggested ingesting bleach/disinfectant could be a potential solution ". I don't see a great difference between that statement and telling people to ingest bleach. In any case, neither is true.
 
Like I'm really going to let a Dumbell like Tyson influence me. Fat chance. And Dumb t-shirt. God gave us the gift of intelligence to develop vaccines. He didn't give us the talent to just sit there and do nothing, and pretend the virus will go away by itself. Let's not insult God by wearing this stupid t-shirt.
 
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He never suggested anyone should ingest bleach/disinfectant. The people who did inject these chemicals are morons.
And the famous case of the woman who fed her husband fish tank cleaner was investigated for homicide.


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You can deny it all you want, you can't change people's minds. I don't know where you were when Drunk Trump did this, and I don't care. But hiding the truth and pretending it never happened, won't change anything.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  30. Sam88@:
    Ivy flirt
  31. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available open long weekend ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily, amazing touch, really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ‘
  32. Sunrise Relaxation(416)916-7276:
    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: ๐Ÿ’‹Jennifer, ๐Ÿ’‹Tina and ๐Ÿ’‹Kitty will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  33. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday May 22, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Monica ๐Ÿ˜, Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ and Sophie ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  34. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  35. SpringGreen.:
    The weeked is here Downtown toront 72 gerrard st west . Bunny miya,angel Lisa and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message 647 891 069 9 ask questions thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Girl Deep Tissue Lily, Fun Girl Apple, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN AND APPLE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  39. Nu spring spa888:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Germany๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธ Filipino girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนyoung friendly new CiCi, back walk,deep to relax,open mind,amazing ending๐Ÿ”ฅ,bring you warm comfortable timeโค๏ธ๐ŸŽˆ
  41. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธMonika๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  44. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (9PMโ€“2AM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  45. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  46. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA (Hungary), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  48. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE (11am-9pm): from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
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