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I was wondering if anyone has had an experience like mine, or if anyone can give me a logical explanation as to whether or not my problem could be related with massage:

I am a student, and receive massage twice a week. I am in class with the same 16 women every week, and have been since last summer. My last menstral cycle began 12/8/06, so that makes it about 3 months late. Yes, I've taken the home preg. test, and it was negative. I mentioned it to a small group of girls, and another one said that she hasn't had it for that long either, and another was late, but not by that amount of time.

Could getting "too" many massages affect your system that way? It doesn't make sense to me; if anything, I'm so relaxed, I would think that my body would be in an ideal state.

I know that women can influence eachother, but I would think that it would increase in frequency, not decrease...

And lastly, I don't have health insurance, so I'm looking for any/all useful info that I can use to educate myself with before I suck it up and shell out the money to go.

Thanks for your input... :?
 


If your cycle began 12/8/06 and you were regularly having 1 cycle a month, then by normal calculation you should have had a cycle on roughly 1/8/07, 2/8/07, and the coming up on 3/8/07. As it is just now the first of march and you are in a class of 16 other women that I am sure have quite a bit of estrogen I would not be too alarmed.

It is normal when you are working so closely with a large group of women that spend such a great deal of close time together that their cycles will fall off their normal mark and "reset" themselves. Then you will end up with 20% or more of the group with cycles that are running on the same exact schedule. I would be willing to guess that at some point during the month of March you will more than likely have some sort of a cycle be it normal or small.

At this point, I don't think that it would be anything to become terribly alarmed by. While I was in massage school there were 18 other women in my class and only 6 men. All of us women ended skipping 2 cycles and then ended up being on the exact same cycle with each other for the remainder of our course together. The classes ran for 6 months, so for 3 or 4 months we were all PMSing together. The guys hated us.

Your body is becoming more intune with your surroundings. It's natural.
 


It's not unusual for women to occassionally have what is called an "anovulatory"cycle. Basically what that means is that ovuation did not occur or was defective in some way (regular, large doses of ibuprofen has been connected as one cause of this.) Without ovulation our body doesn't get the correct hormonal signal to start menstruation. If you were just a little late (a week or two) then I'd suspect late ovulation but 4 months is too long to just be delayed.

There can be several causes for this. Stress, changes in diet, too low or too high body fat, excessive physical exercise are some causes.

The normal way to correct this is to take Provera (a synthetic progesterone) for 5-7 days and then stop. The drop in progesterone then will signal your body to start your period. This requires a prescription from a doctor. Is there a health clinic or nurse-practitioner that you could see?

The only possible connection I could think of with massage is if you are using a lot of essential oils that would impact your body hormonally? Not sure which EOs that would be (I'm not an aromatherapist) but there are some on the board who would know.

Angie
 


Back in the day............

Many years ago a number of studies were done on female college students living in both dormitories and sorority houses with regard to the regularity of their monthly menstrual cycles and any possible changes in them.

What was found was that the women in those situations gradually shifted their menstrual cycles to follow more in line with the "dominant" female of the group. Whether the dominant females were deemed so by social position, appearance, etc., the change in ovulation was present in 90 plus % of the case studies.

For what it's worth...........
 


Hello, I've always heard about women influencing eachother, and I suspected that to be the cause in my case. I suppose it never really occured to me that the body would skip several months in order to align with other cycles. I thought it would skip a month, at most.

At this point, I'll wait a little while before trying to jumpstart it with hormones, but thank you for that suggestion, Moogie. I'll keep that in mind. For the record, we do not use a lot of essential oils, so I can rule that out.

It's reassuring to hear other womens' experiences. Thank you for the feedback!
 


Since our classroom time was Sept-Dec, this could explain a lot of why all the girls acted soooooo goofy in Dec. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Bad Girls...
 


The above posts are in line, however I have had circumstances where my lower back was out of place and caused a cessation of menstral cycles. I have gone as long as 18 months at one period of time and not realized what the problem was! If you can see a chiropractor, mention this to them, they can adjust you accordingly. If you can't afford to see one at this time, have some one work in your low back area. It's possible that QL and psoas are tight, keeping those lumbar locked up. Gluts, hamstrings, ITB, and quads could also be tight, keeping that lumbar from moving. If your hips feel tight when you walk, this is a pretty good indication that this is going on.

If this doesn't help, try Progesterone cream. It contains Wild Yam which is a natural progesterone and can help to bring the hormones into balance if this is the problem. You can pick it up at most health food stores for around $15 or so. Use the cream on the abdominal area twice a day for at least a month. This will give it time for the body to process the hormone in your system to help balance things out. Hope this helps!
 


If you're getting a lot of student massage, esp. if you started abdominal or pelvic/sacral work in January, there may have been some unintentional unskilled misplacement that is contributing to stopped periods.

I would speak to a trusted instructor about this, because they may be able to help you get your viscera repositioned properly if that is the problem and they are trained to correct it.

If that and chiro don't fix it (and maybe even if they do), it's not a bad idea to see your lady-parts doc, just to keep tabs on things. Especially if you have been regular before this.
 
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  41. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE: from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls๏ผŒNina ใ€Cindy ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, New girl Yuki Round buttocks ๐Ÿ˜œpretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Philippine ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Malaysia ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, NANCY, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. NANCY is a curvy and very friendly Spanish girl, who has all the versatile skills you need. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Japanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
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