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I plan to visite Kate this afternoon, the pictures on the website invites me... So anyone can tell me if I'm doing a good choice? :cool:
 
j ai essayer kate il y a 2 semaine, elle est tres jolie, petit seine avec piercing sur le sein. mais elle ne te touche presque pas et parle pas. j ai ete tres decu.
essaye une autre.
 
Hey Booster,

When I was there last week, the girl that was at the desk was called Chanel. She was hot. About 5.3, 110 pounds, small b-cups, blondish hair. I haven't seen any posts about her but she would be an interesting choice.

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Popped in again last sunday and decided to try someone different. I saw her the week before. Her name is Chanel. I took one hour with spa and thai (total of $140, usual)

She's about 30, 5.4, 115 pounds, dirty shoulderlenght blond hair. Breasts are b-cup and a bit saggy. Good shape, with one tattoo and a clit ring. She has a french accent. She has studied in music and psychology.

The spa experience was average. Some touching of Mr Happy, light touching of the Y and a little conversation. Not many different positions though. The massage was more like gentle caresses. Not very southing but the thai was good. She oiled up her breasts and moved up and down the body.

I didn't really click with her. And 2 things bothered me. She smelled of smoke and as soon as I paid her she left the room. I wasn't even fully dressed yet. She didn't even escort me out to the front. What the hell was that !

No repeat for me. But I did see a potential lady for next week. Her name was Thalia. Short dark hair, youg, she looked hindou.

Gambling Fool
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140 for a massage? Your kidding right? The same 140 would have given you the whole game from an escort. You might want to consider that section as a much more useful way to find what you are looking for.

MATt
 
Gambling Fool,
very nice review. Too bad you didn't click with Chanel. We can't please everybody.That's part of the game. By the way, did you see Maya hanging around? I haven't been there in the past 6 weeks. I'll probably pop in this week-end to see her. She must be wondering if I'm dead or something.

P.S: Don't pay any attention to negative posts, there just useless anyway. :rolleyes: Just continue doing reviews, good or bad.

Stud out...
 
Stud, I assume you refer to my posts as negative. Far from it, I am attempting to bring a little realism to the situation. Read the review, something big jumps out:

"She's about 30, 5.4, 115 pounds, dirty shoulderlenght blond hair. Breasts are b-cup and a bit saggy. Good shape, with one tattoo and a clit ring."

"The massage was more like gentle caresses."

You guys may get off on the idea or feel better about the idea because you are "going for a massage" and not "going to an escort" but realistically, there wasn't much massage in this review, just a girl getting naked and doing stuff. Consider what he got and the price he paid, his $140 would have gone much further with an escort and the end results would have been much more positive for everyone involved.

If you truly like massage then you should be upset to see this sort of thing going on. SPs are sneaking down hiding as MP, and that will only bring LE to the door much more quickly. More importantly, they will bring LE to the door of every massage place, because if 25% of them are basically SPs in disguise, how cna you be sure about the rest?

I want to be able to enjoy a massage in peace. I don't want the girls jumping through the roof every time the doorbell rings because LE might be there.

MATt
 
If the mp s of the planet expect to earn the same money as a full service escort, then they must have:
a) The looks.....WHAT do I mean by that..They must be well proportioned, be in shape.....they have to smell good...........
b) The personality...meaning that they are pleasant...and that they can get into it.....very very quickly..........clients must sense that their mp wants to please........
c) The experience.........to know how to make all clients want to come back.
d) The skills.......that are required for the job..........Take a course or 2 in massage techniques so that the client will get full value...........
e) Discretion

Anything less than that does not fill the requirement.
Would you pay 100 grand for a CORROLLA..
I think not. For that kind of money you would expect a MERCEDES.
And everyone who expects a MERCEDES paycheck must be capable
of delivering all of the above..
Never pretend to deliver what you can not deliver.
Clients are not fools. Eventually all the advertisements
in the world will not bring them back.
Service.....will get them back.......
And by the way; the tip is determined by the client;
not by the mp.......the worse thing for a business is when an employee
tells a client that the tip was not big enough. The next time one of your
employees thinks of even doing that, advise the employee that if they want
to act like owners, then they can buy their own business; cause when they do this; your clientelle is being recklessly insulted.....It is ironic that so much effort is put in to bringing in the client and that the mp employee is allowed
to act like an owner....when in reality the client is the boss....
 
ManAboutTown, don't get me wrong, I respect you opinion in your last post. It's just that Gambling Fool knows the score at Jouvence. If he wants to pay that kind of money for that kind of service, that's his business. You can argue all you want about the physical attributes of a lady and the service she gives, but Gambling Fool saw her before he decided to fork over $80.00 for a thai. So who are we, (me included), to judge how a person spends his money.

Stud out...
 
To Stud :

I saw Maya 3 weeks ago. I wanted to see her last sunday but she was off that day. That's why I tried Chanel. No worries about not connecting, it can't happen every time. I still have it with Melodie and Maya. And don't worry about the other posts, i do my own thing and then report it.

To MATt :

I agree with you that my $$$ would go further on the escort side of things. But in my hobbying, that is not what I am looking for. I appreciate a decent (not therapeutic) massage. In this case (Chanel), I did not get it so I will not repeat. The others have given me what I am looking for so I return to see them. I also enjoy the spa experience. I am not trying to convince myself of anything, I know what I want. If I want an escort, I'll get one.

Gambling Fool
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Fool, you misunderstand - it just isn't that you would be better with an escort, but the MP business would be better with you visiting an escort. These girls obviously have little intention of giving a massage, they are there to make money on the "extras" side of things. Basically, they are escorts hiding behind an MP front.

LE (and the public) are very likely to lump all MPs together and treat them the same, which means those of us who enjoy a rub and tug (or even just a real good rub) are pretty much SOL because we never know when LE is going to show up at the door claiming we are in a bawdy house rather than an MP. Encouraging these types of girls to stay in business in the end just makes it really hard for everyone else, and makes it less enjoyable to try new places.

MATt
 
Went to see Maya today. I hadn't seen her in about 6 weeks. My god, I swear, she's getting more and more beautifull every week that goes by. What a incredible girl. Extreme beauty, intelligence, personnality, the way she interacts with you, the whole package is there. Her thai massage is just to die for.And she's sensual to the max. She loves what she does, and it really shows. I spent 90 minutes with her today and it felt like only 5 minutes.

Stud out...
 
Hey Stud,

Your right about Maya. I'll have to go for that 90 minutes. Only tried 60 minutes so far.

And thanks for the change of pace !

Gambling Fool
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Hey MATt,

I'm in this hobby for the spa and massage experience. And I go to these MP's because they offer the extra HJ. That's all I'm looking for, no FS for me. I appreciate a girls massage technique but do not expect her to be a professional. I do not repeat with the girls that do a bad job. That way, that girl will not make any money and will have to leave. To be replaced with a girl that is good. The owners will see that. We should all reject the bad girls in this business. It would be better for the hobby community. The girls I see are not escorts. They offer a decent massage, spa companionship and a make you feel special.

I'm also cautious of LE getting involved in the MP's. I also agree with you on the fact that extra attention to these places will attract LE. Without complaints, they won't do anything, they're busy enough. But LE will always be a risk in this hobby.

I have to believe that you go there also because of the HJ. If not you would be in a legit therapeutic massage parlor, with a professional. This board, when well used, let's you know what kind of place an MP is. It should allow you to make an informed decision and not afraid of going to a new place.

Gambling Fool
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GF, like almost everyone else in this forum, I am a fan of both the rub and the tug. I am also a fan of sex in general, don't get me wrong. However, I am very concerend that a really good thing (rub and tug) is getting buried in a sea of people looking for FS.

As I mentioned in another thread here, the more SPs that come down and hide out in MP land, the more we are going to see LE action to not only shut the down, but to hassle and shut down straighter places that otherwise would pass under the radar. Massage of the rub and tug variety has been tolerated for years now, the MPs run in the open, signs on the door, even neon MASSAGE signs are the norm and LE seems to tolerate it.

I am truly concerned that many people use SP/MPs as a personal cover. They can bring themselves to admit they like to get a massage, but they can't admit they are paying for sex (" what me? Pay for sex? Never! "). These girls prey on that "sorta" mentality to overcharge you for not even FS, with little or no massage action at all.

If a 30 minute "massage" is 5 minutes massage, 25 minutes "action" then it isn't a massage, now is it?

If a girl has a standard rate sheet for topless, nude, BJ, digits, DATY, etc... then it isn't a massage, now is it?

If your budget for massage is more than twice the "hour rate" fee, then you probably came looking for FS or near FS, not for a massage.

It all comes down to intent, your desires, and what it is you are truly looking for. Look at the place in this thread. If the girls stayed dressed, didn't allow access to the Y and all those other "extras" would you even be caught dead in the place?

I don't think so.

MATt
 
Hey MATt,

Now we are getting somewhere. I agree with you about many people looking for FS in these places and it could attract more SP's to these places and eventually LE also. That is not my case and not the case in the many places i've been to in the south shore. I have never been offered BJ, DATY or FS. Honestly, the only thing I might go for if the price was right is the BJ, but I do not expect it. All the MP'S I've been too are in the same price range, 60$ for one hour with spa, 80$ for thai. I accept those prices and I decide if I want to go back based on the service I got.

I do admit to paying for the service because that is what I am doing, and all the rest of you are too. In the hour long experience, I spend 30 minutes in the spa for close intimate contact, most times it includes light touching of the Y but no digits. Also there is conversation, do I "click" with the girl. After that, we go to the massage table. About 15 minutes of massage then the thai begins. Then turn over and happy ending.

I go to these places for the whole experience. I do not repeat with the girls that do not do a good job. I am in the service industry and this should not be tolerated. This board helps us all with that aspect. If we post a good review, the girl often gets some business from it. I imagine the same goes for the bad reviews, they lose money.

I know what I want and I know what I am truly looking for. If there were absolutely no extras in a place I would not go. I am not in it for only the massage, if I were I would go to a legit place. I want the girl to be naked, I want us to caress each other and I want the HJ.

We are getting closer to an agreement. If not, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Gambling Fool
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Who is this lady luck anyway ?
 
Once you get to " I want the girl to be naked, I want us to caress each othe" you have pretty much stepped over the line as to what is likely to acceptable to LE in the long run. More importantly, it is more than most regular MP girls are willing to do.

Basically, a real MP girl does rub, tug, and might let you rub a little here and there just to make the tug go faster. They are not there to be SPs, they have little or no intention in that direction. Most of them would be very happy to get paid by the boss for the time (much less than half the hourly rate you pay) and get a tip (usually about $20) for the tug part of the job.

Spa time is on of the things that makes me laugh. basically, you naked, girl naked, in a spa together. You sit close, maybe rub a little here and there. The intention is to give you time to "enjoy" your sp before the massage part starts. There is no valid reason for the girl to be in there with you except to, well, tease and push up the price.

They whole thing is major league gray area, except I can tell you without a doubt that the actions of there "SP/MP"s is driving good MP girls out of the business because they don't want to be SPs.

It's the same thing when strip clubs went from no contact to contact lap dancing a few years back. Many of the dancers left the business rather than become borderline SPs, spending their lives being fondled and rubbed. Been to strip clubs lately? For the most part, the girls are getting older the industry as a whole is going into the ground. Why? Because fewer and fewer girls see this as an acceptable option in life. I remember the girls working at clubs at night going to school during the day. That is rare these days.

The time of the decent rub and tug is on the wane, overwhelmed by SPs and near SP services.

MATt
 
Ok, we have different points of view on this. I can accept that because it's the best part of this board.

Good hobbying to you.

Gambling Fool
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    TUESDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in
  35. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    💯🔥😘I’m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough, Red Rose Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York💯🔥😘 RED ROSE HEALTH SPA: ✅Red Rose Health Spa @ 2 Invergordon Avenue in Scarborough✅ ☎️416-292-1268☎️ 💯Vivian available every Sunday and Monday from 10am to 9pm💯 ☎️Call Red Rose Health Spa 416-292-1268 to book
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
  37. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at 🎭𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗬𝗪𝗢𝗢𝗗 𝗦𝗣𝗔🎭, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. ☎416-222-5554☎ When you visit 🎭Hollywood Spa🎭, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5’5”
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25’s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, sexy Coco and sweet EFG Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5’1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  42. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts💋 recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, 💋Anna💋 is from China💯cici💋Taiwan, Jessica💋💯South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885 or ☎️💋4163565876💋💯 SMS, thank you lotushubspa
  43. New Oriental Health Centre:
    🫦Happy, Vivian, Nayla & Sunny are in today 📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 🍑 Happy is a very talented Korean Babe 👄Vivian is a Very Horny & Vivacious Chinese Girl!💄Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl💋 Sunny is another Young Hot Korean Girl ~ All Our Girls are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 Open 8am til Late #26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  44. wonderspa:
    🌺🌺Wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800☎️best massage in vaughan,Today and tomorrow RMT available,Ensuit shower is available 💄sexy very young girl beautiful face Mimi,natural c cup,nice body slide 💄Tina beautiful face,open mind she can provide everything you want🤭 Long hair Q girl Lucy deep tissue massage,backwalk,hot stone,really popular,cupping,must try,🔥give you warm time
  45. Annie Spa:
    Our sexy busty big boobs girl Angel is working today Tuesday January 14th with gorgeous young girls Molly and Coco🔥😘 😘❤️😍🔥Angel has nice soft big natural boobs to fondle, squeeze and suck!! 💯😘❤️🥰100% real Angel pictures💯💯🔥🔥 Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments 💯❤️🙏🏻 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8896 416-291-8879
  46. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ♨️♨️♨️table shower 👍👍👍👍👍body scrub🌹🌹🌹🌹5124 Dundas W Etobicoke ☎️416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa 😘can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space
  47. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Bella are at work. They are both petite and sexy, with smooth skin and sweet voices. They are cute and good at massage. Kiki and Bella are at work. They are both petite and sexy, with smooth skin and sweet voices. They are cute and good at massage. Kiki and Bella are working. They are petite and sexy, with smooth skin, sweet voices, popular with everyone, and have good massage skills. Kiki and Bella are working.
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ☎️647- 446-0886
  49. See You Health Center:
    Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5’2”tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service ☎️416-988-2950
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's our sneak peek for tomorrow: For Tuesday January 14, 2025, our attendants will be Ada 🥰, Cici 🤗, Yoyo 😘, Ivy ❤️ and Christina 🔥 Call 905-479-6668 to book!
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