Acupuncture Course - Worth it?

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Hi Fellow members,

I have been interested in studying acupuncture for a very long time but never got the time to start studying it at university. I have a question for all acupuncturists out there or anyone else who's got some knowledge on the subject: is it worth doing?

The nearest college to me is the northern college of acupuncture. the course is a 3 year bsc degree and costs ยฃ21,000 in total (for 3 years) ! The cost keeps putting me off. So is it worth it? What are the job prospects after graduation. Obviously acupuncture is much more known and accepted but how long did it take you to establish a clinic and start making the money back that you invested into the education. I am just a little scared of putting so much money into the course. Any advice would be welcome.

I have another choice as well, bowen therapy, which is something I have experienced first hand and can say worked for me brilliantly! Can't make my mind up at all. IF I do bowen therapy then it pretty much helps with a lot of ailments that acupuncture covers but is not so well known and maybe is quite limited in what it can treat compared to acupuncture.

Anyway my query is more to do with acupuncture, the prospects and cost of it all.

Stuck.....

Beeswax
 
Hi Beeswax

Yes there is a future and a career in acupuncture. Acupuncture has a higher profile than other CAM therapies and is used to a small degree in the NHS. If there was any therapy that would ever be integrated into conventional healthcare, it would be acupuncture.

But you have to work out the if the training will pay for itself and it's possible to make a living. Business acumen and many other factors have to be taken in consideration in a successful practice, ie self-confidence. Therapists sitting at home expecting the "angels" or the "universe" to provide them work are living in a dreamland fantasy.

One benefit of either acupuncture & bowen therapy over other bodywork therapies is that they can be practiced well into retirement. Massage therapists' working life is a lot shorter as many musclosketetal problems can occur.

Studying acupuncture is a much bigger commitment than many other bodywork therapies, but then you can potentially do more with it. If your for example you have 20 years or more working life ahead of you, acupuncture is a good long term investment.

Best Wishes

RP
 
Thank you Reiki, you've definitely made me think about it even more seriously. It's definitely a popular therapy. Well, I guess I better get saving then! Are there any acupuncturists here who could give me some insight into how long it took them to set up etc.
 
Hi Beeswax,
It might sound a daft question but what are you wanting to use acupuncture for? would it be an adjunt to current treatments etc or as a seperate modality?
i ask because im aware for example, that you can train in specific areas such as Orthopaedic accupuncture for use in muscoskeletal problems. This doesnt / wouldnt qualify you as an acupuncturist but allows the use of acupuncture for certain conditions etc.

thanks,
simon.
 
hi fitnesstherapy,

as a seperate modality. just wondering whether its worth it in the end because the cost of the course is v.high.
 
Hello All-
This is my first post on these pages, so please excuse any protocol failures whilst I get used to the way of things!

Regarding acupuncture, I think the value of the course is reflected in the cost. Would you want someone with a poor (low cost) training sticking needles in YOU? Most serious injuries (collaped lungs etc) are caused by poor training.

I've just graduated with First from a UK university where the course fees are lower than most private collages. The training was first class- I was in a group of just 5 students, and much of the time the clinical supervision was 1 to 1 with top class professors of Chinese medicine. You need (and get) a first class training in A & P, pathology, basic psychology and business skills, each from top quality teachers, most of whom have years of real world experience. You HAVE to work hard- remembering the location of the points is just the basics!

As mentioned in a previous post, there are short courses available- these are usually only available to someone with an existing MEDICAL training who is regulated by the HPC, eg physio, midwife, nurse, dentist etc. These are short for a reason, as they are specific to each of the professions. Furthermore, some doctors (GP's) do a diploma in Medical Acupuncture (a very different theroretical basis than Traditional).

There are no "walk in" carreers after training. Most practitioners are self employed and expert marketeers- the rest go to the wall.

It it worth it? You bet! This stuff really works.
 
Hi david,

the course is validated by middlesex university and is a 3 year bsc degree course.

where did you study if you dont mind me asking.
 
Hi Besswax

I live on the Essex Riviera (seriously!) so the nearest course was at UEL.

Check that whichever course you choose that it's Stage 2 (or 3) validated by the BAcC-this allows automatic membership on graduating.

If you choose to do a course at a "proper" uni rather than a private college, you pay the normal fees of around ยฃ3200 per year, for which the Student Loan Co will stump up. Colleges like York, LTCA etc charge more, for which you have to find the difference. These external courses have to be validated by a uni to make them a genuine degree; recently one or two unis have withdrawn validation so check first.

York has a good reputation. My course manager trained with one of the leading lights there, but that was 20 years ago.

If you're serious about learning Traditional acupuncture, snaffle a copy of The Foundations of Chinese Medicine by G. Macciocia, and see if it shuts itself when you read it! If it stays open for an hour, you might just be OK with the course!

Much of the training revolves around "reflective practice"- if you can't "know" youself, how can you help someone else? Self evaluation based on honesty and clarity are crucial for acupuncture-people that come for help have often exhausted all other avenues, and can be wrung out by their experiences, so knowing how to "be" with others is crucial. This self reflection may highlight things that need tackling in youself- not always easy!

Ultimitely acupuncture is no miracle cure- but it CAN help with many of the things that Biomedicine struggles to fix without resorting to drugs. Look for the best teachers- phone and ask to observe a clinic for a morning, get treatment yourself, talk to others that have had acupuncture, but be realistic. Its a long hard training and to get put off halfway by lack of money or by stuggling with the workload is a real possibility. Eleven students started in my cohort-only 2 graduated this year as some switched to part time as the load was too much (often the students are "mature" with other work and familiy commitments). Others simply fell by the wayside. So it goes.

Good luck with your search
David
 
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    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: ๐ŸญJennifer, ๐ŸญCoco and ๐ŸญEmily will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  41. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Superstar Lucy, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌLUCY AND HELEN๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  42. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: Superstar Bobo, Jap/Chin Akino, Indian Girl Radika and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธVivian๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธMelissa Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY; EVENING SASHA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs
  48. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Nico works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  49. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  50. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ANNA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
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