Akira from Premier is she gone gone?

Indy providers span the whole range of quality. The ones that last and build a steady clientele donโ€™t short you on time, usually entering the location and first shower are not included in your time unless she joins you in the shower or you arrive late or take a very long time in the bathroom getting ready. The good and bad of independents are they are their own boss (if they are bad with time management or scheduling then your experience will be a disaster) on the other hand if you are nice and donโ€™t push boundaries and they have time they will sometimes include extra time for free as they are not fined by an agency or SPA.

In terms of pricing some girls try to discourage shorter sessions with higher rates or donโ€™t take bookings of shorter sessions altogether. For example Jenn Perla used to not take 1 hour bookings until she raised her rates to 500 HR and 1.5 HR booking became $750. She now offers 1 HR but charges $550 to discourage people from booking the shorter session. Some of the girls do charge extra on top of the hourly fee for some items such as BBFS, Rimming, Greek etc. In terms of tipping above the hourly fee you donโ€™t need to do it.

In terms of service the quality ones do provide a better experience then at the SPA case in point Emily Sweets as I think her service as an Indy is better then what you get at Pure/Perla now. As mentioned by other posters a lot of girls tried to go Indy but their service/price wasnโ€™t attractive to people and they ended back at the SPA.

This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
 
This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
Some girls will absolutely never give you free extra time but for others they see it as sort of a marketing expense to keep good clients normally you wonโ€™t get it on your first visit but you will need to see them a couple times and very rarely does it include sexual activity most of the time it is social in nature and the girl will let you know. For example she may ask if you want to stay for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, in some cases dinner. If she is giving you a massage at the end of your session she may just keep going. Or before the session starts she may tell you that she has some free time after the session due to a cancellation etc. and you can stay for x time.
 
Don't count on extra time. She's likely got another client coming and needs to get ready. She'll let you know when you're time is up, don't worry about it. But when she starts hinting, that means it's time to leave, not linger.

I'd say I've only gotten extra time 20% of the time or less. It's usually when they don't have another client booked and they like your company. If you go in expecting it, you'll probably be disappointed.
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client Jโ€™s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasnโ€™t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
Interested too if someone wants to DM me
 
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client Jโ€™s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasnโ€™t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
 
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Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If realโ€ฆwhere can I see her this weekend?
 
Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If realโ€ฆwhere can I see her this weekend?
AFAIK she's Japanese.

Her schedule and rates are on her website, which I think were linked to already.

Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
I think her service is a bit better as an Indy. She certainly seems more relaxed, which probably helps. I do think her SF2 suffers a bit in the hotel showers vs the ones at Perla, for whatever that's worth.

The caveat here is that I'd seen Akira more than a few times at Perla so I wasn't exactly an unfamiliar face going to see her as an indy. So there's no real awkwardness, and we just kind of let things go where they go, and I know I can have a good time.

So I think my experience is going to be different compared to someone who is seeing her for the first time.

And no, I've never showered her with gifts or anything of that nature. Just being respectful and a repeat client seems to work well for me.
 
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
These pics exist?
 
These pics exist?
The pics of Jโ€™s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not Jโ€™s Secret. Personally I donโ€™t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they donโ€™t impact him. Even though he claims he hasnโ€™t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesnโ€™t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
 
The pics of Jโ€™s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not Jโ€™s Secret. Personally I donโ€™t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they donโ€™t impact him. Even though he claims he hasnโ€™t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesnโ€™t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
Whatโ€™s her Twitter handle? I donโ€™t kink shame ๐Ÿ˜†
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
She was far from the lighter side of GFE at Perla.
 
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    Take a peek on Tomorrow@Sunrise Relaxation Downtown: Jennifer, Coco and Emily will be there to ignite all your desires. Call (416)500-0921 for detail schedule and insight info
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday May 30, 2025, our attendants will be Ada ๏ธ, Carla ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Opal ๐Ÿ˜ and Vicky ๐Ÿ‘. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  32. SL Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  33. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  34. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  35. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  38. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile.
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŽ‰Come visit us!๐ŸŽ‰ Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Cici ๐Ÿคฉ, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿค— and Monica ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ใ™ใฟใพใ›ใ‚“:
    Top notch wellness: Ella , elena, Angela, Michelle, gabby , and Vanna. Call us now to make your appointment. 437-522-9961
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open min, young popular kitty 26โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Judy and Kiki. They are young and beautiful, cute and sexy. Deep tissue massage and relaxation massage are both great. Back walking is very comfortable. They have sweet smiles and work seriously. If you are tired from work, come and make an appointment!๐Ÿค—
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