Akira from Premier is she gone gone?

Indy providers span the whole range of quality. The ones that last and build a steady clientele don’t short you on time, usually entering the location and first shower are not included in your time unless she joins you in the shower or you arrive late or take a very long time in the bathroom getting ready. The good and bad of independents are they are their own boss (if they are bad with time management or scheduling then your experience will be a disaster) on the other hand if you are nice and don’t push boundaries and they have time they will sometimes include extra time for free as they are not fined by an agency or SPA.

In terms of pricing some girls try to discourage shorter sessions with higher rates or don’t take bookings of shorter sessions altogether. For example Jenn Perla used to not take 1 hour bookings until she raised her rates to 500 HR and 1.5 HR booking became $750. She now offers 1 HR but charges $550 to discourage people from booking the shorter session. Some of the girls do charge extra on top of the hourly fee for some items such as BBFS, Rimming, Greek etc. In terms of tipping above the hourly fee you don’t need to do it.

In terms of service the quality ones do provide a better experience then at the SPA case in point Emily Sweets as I think her service as an Indy is better then what you get at Pure/Perla now. As mentioned by other posters a lot of girls tried to go Indy but their service/price wasn’t attractive to people and they ended back at the SPA.

This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
 
This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
Some girls will absolutely never give you free extra time but for others they see it as sort of a marketing expense to keep good clients normally you won’t get it on your first visit but you will need to see them a couple times and very rarely does it include sexual activity most of the time it is social in nature and the girl will let you know. For example she may ask if you want to stay for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, in some cases dinner. If she is giving you a massage at the end of your session she may just keep going. Or before the session starts she may tell you that she has some free time after the session due to a cancellation etc. and you can stay for x time.
 
Don't count on extra time. She's likely got another client coming and needs to get ready. She'll let you know when you're time is up, don't worry about it. But when she starts hinting, that means it's time to leave, not linger.

I'd say I've only gotten extra time 20% of the time or less. It's usually when they don't have another client booked and they like your company. If you go in expecting it, you'll probably be disappointed.
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client J’s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasn’t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
Interested too if someone wants to DM me
 
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client J’s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasn’t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
 
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Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If real…where can I see her this weekend?
 
Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If real…where can I see her this weekend?
AFAIK she's Japanese.

Her schedule and rates are on her website, which I think were linked to already.

Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
I think her service is a bit better as an Indy. She certainly seems more relaxed, which probably helps. I do think her SF2 suffers a bit in the hotel showers vs the ones at Perla, for whatever that's worth.

The caveat here is that I'd seen Akira more than a few times at Perla so I wasn't exactly an unfamiliar face going to see her as an indy. So there's no real awkwardness, and we just kind of let things go where they go, and I know I can have a good time.

So I think my experience is going to be different compared to someone who is seeing her for the first time.

And no, I've never showered her with gifts or anything of that nature. Just being respectful and a repeat client seems to work well for me.
 
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
These pics exist?
 
These pics exist?
The pics of J’s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not J’s Secret. Personally I don’t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they don’t impact him. Even though he claims he hasn’t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesn’t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
 
The pics of J’s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not J’s Secret. Personally I don’t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they don’t impact him. Even though he claims he hasn’t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesn’t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
What’s her Twitter handle? I don’t kink shame 😆
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
She was far from the lighter side of GFE at Perla.
 
She was far from the lighter side of GFE at Perla.
Okay I found these pics. She really isn’t all that special looks wise imo and the level of drama seems a little over the top. Best of luck ...
 
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    Wednesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️CINDY, KELLY & KIKI. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, all natural coconuts, a nice bum, and rockin’ services.
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  39. Jenny’s Spa:
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  41. See You Health Center:
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  42. YM203:
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  46. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Baby😘🥰 A young, vibrant 22 year old petite spinner from Vietnam with a calm and welcoming presence. Her dark, flowing hair complements her soft, warm smile, creating an approachable and friendly atmosphere. She carries herself with
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  48. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ SARIKA, SASHA, CHLOE and KK are here today for your XXX massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  49. Lulu1980:
    phoenix blossom Spa♨️♨️♨️New girls Tina and Luna are young and beautiful with professional and diverse massage techniques, deep tissue Thai massage👍👍👍Swiss gentle roller skating massage technique😘😘😘Guide in different service methods to relieve fatigue💯💯💯💯Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time5124 Dundas W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Lin, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly.
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