MatT,
No one... well, not me anyway, is saying that the girls should be disrespected. As I see it, the girls who don't respect us are the source of our discontent.
I in no way condone or applaud disrespectful behaviour. Like Oliver, I get as little or as much mileage as I do because I am nice and presentable. I never grope, I never make untoward suggestions. Subtle advances and conversation are my way. Respect is essential.
I say nothing of Endless' tactics, but in and of itself, I thought what transpired was funny. Not evil, maybe not right, but certainly not a despicable act from a person to be reviled.
I would hate to see you leave the board on account of all this. Yes, I do find you patronizing at times, and, yes, I do think you try a little too hard to change the world. But I understand your actions. Perhaps if yopu did not take it personally it wouldn't engender such frustration.
Those who disrespect should certainly told outright, but sometimes it's just good clean fun. Case in point my little repartee with Cosmo. Neither of us is going to ask that smoking cashier at the Super C for a handjob with an included massage. You partake of the inevitable handjob too as I understand it. So don't be so holier than thou. Furthermore, it has happened many times that I refused a handjob, the massage being enough. Most of the MPs say that almost all men want a finish. I find this sad.
The finish as such is a service, yes, a release, but it is also a sexual release, thus a sex act, however you slice it, when an MP does this, she crosses a line. The line between a bonafide therapeutic massage and one with a sexual ending. When a girlfriend doesn't feel like having intercourse but is willing to give you pleasure with, perhaps a handjob, it is still a sex act. With an MP you pay for it, that's all. Half the reason I don't like paying for extras is because it is never my intent to begin with, but also because I don't want to use anyone.
I saw Lily the other day, she was really nice and the handjob was included in the massage. No extra was requested. A tension release, plain and simple. I wasn't that crazy about the softness of her massage. But I fell asleep at the end and walked away feeling very relaxed and well taken care of. Nice, no? A sweet lady, some nice conversation, an ok massage and a little something for my libido in the middle of it. I didn't ask for the release and if I go back I may forego it from time to time.
So, yes, I respect women, and I understand your frustration with those who don't. But try not to generalize and be a little more direct in terms of who your comments are aimed at. I am discontent about many things in this world, but if I generalize I get nowhere, you have to hit the source. Great fodder for lengthy debates on eforum.xxx.
Don't leave on account of a few bad apples MatT. Don't throw your hands in the air and say "well what can I do" that's just not cool
as you might say