Angelica (HK), Betty (BD), Gaby (CumInTJ), et al. (a trip report)

[Margey x]

Pelongera, was your scammer chica actually named Paula? I was at Hong Kong tonight (AmigoMio, I hung out with the infamous Dr. B). Because Dr. B likes the metal mouthed braces girls, he had a standing order with the meseros to fetch any and all girls with braces. The mesero brought over a girl -- black hair, braces, lighter skinned, nice tetas -- named Paula. She said she was from Tijuana. As I said in my comment below, I'm bad with names but it started to click when she'd always get up and bolt for a few minutes every few minutes. Originally she was game for going upstairs with Dr.B and another girl but the other girl wasn't keen on it. Then, she ordered another drink and gets up to go lord knows where and never comes back. So I put 2+2 together and wondered if it was your chica from hell. I clearly remember he name being Paula because she actually had left the ficha ticket on the table (! never saw that before...they always guard those like they're money) and Dr. B's other chica happened to be named Paulina (she had lighter hair and was from Cuiiacلn).



I'm partial to Veracruzanas. I definitely have a type and they're my current flavor of the month. I like the girls from Monterrey. And oh some of the Cd Obregon, Sonora girls. Oh, and the border girls from Reynosa and Nuevo Laredo. Or the Jalisco and Sinaloa girls. I can't not stop thinking of some girls from the DF. I've had some great chicas from Tijuana as well. So no. Over the years I've not seen any difference in the type of session and attitude a girl has based on where she's from. I will say that girls from larger cities will tend to be more businesslike and new girls from smaller towns will tend to be more tender. But give them a few weeks in TJ or the DF and they're just like their sisters from the cities. I think you may run into "scam artists" as they are girls that have been in the business a while and learned the tricks and how to dupe n00bs. The ones you ran into happened to local girls but they could have been from anywhere.

But I'm trying to work my way through a representative from every state in the Republic.:
Chihuahua, Sonora, Coahuila, Durango, Oaxaca, Jalisco, Tamaulipas, Chiapas, Baja California Sur, Zacatecas, Veracruz, Baja California, Nuevo Leَn, Guerrero, San Luis Potosي, Michoacلn, Sinaloa, Campeche, Quintana Roo, Yucatلn, Puebla, Guanajuato, Nayarit, Tabasco, Mexico State, Hidalgo, Querétaro, Aguascalientes, Colima. Morelos. Tlaxcala, Distrito Federal
(bold are states with chicas I've had, unbolded are some still on my list)

Tijuana and el DF tend to have the girls from all over the country working in the bars which has helped me mark a lot of states off the map. I think for some of the remaining states I'm going to need to hit the road.

 

[smallfeetz]

Pelongera wrote:

No I have made no connection between the distance "providers" are and the service they provide. That's still a form of stereotyping, and I try to stay away from that, because there are individual differences too.

Now that I think of it there are a few local Tijuana "providers" that do scam, we had a member here that had a thing for one of these chicas, and she would try to pull scams. Once I even call her over for drinks, and laughed my ass off at all the bullshit she tried to pull, and when I tried to take her to the room, she demanded a lot of money upfront too, and I just had to walk away from her, and she had the nerve to tell me, it's my lost.( she was about a 5 in my opinion, and overweight)

But I also find local providers well grounded mentally, because they have their kids and family here with them.

But if I were to engage in stereotyping. I'd say I notice the more the "provider" has been in the business, the more likely you're to get bad service, or even ripped off, but then again we have lot of superstars you been in business for years, and decades and they are still good.

 

[Tails]

On my part I've had many experiences with girls from Veracruz and Acapulco that have turned out quite well.

What we call in Spanish "costeٌas" always turn out to be hot, really hot girls that if you kow how to push their buttons, they will really work good with you.

 

[Magyver]

Have any of you BG vets noticed a correlation between a chica's home town and her performance? (And I don't mean in a racial or ethnic sense, as in darker skinned girls give better hootch, sort of thing.)

My best experiences were with two chicas from Acapulco (both of which experiences, btw, did not involve much negotiations beyond the price, very easy). And I've had some very good sessions with women from Veracruz.

The two edgiest experiences, on the other hand, were from chicas from Tijuana, Paulina being one. I couldn't help seeing in her anger some gringo hostility, which is when I knew I was up against it, so to speak.

My theory now is that the farther away from Tijuana (and the U.S.) they hail from, the less inclined they are to scam a gringo.

 

[Lidiya]

Sampson wrote:

I recall her working for you only faintly, but when I was looking for her, she was working for Tanya, and Tanya told me she left for the states, and instead offered herself, or one of her young friends in training to me, but I turned her down, as I already had her.

Pelongera wrote:

I slowed down, about 25 visits a year, on average at least two girls a trip, so that's about 50 girls a year, and if I'm lucky one escort a year, although I did three escorts this year from "Wizdom" because they are so cheap, and it's something I could set up at the last minute. I generally don't like the high price of the escorts, and I rather be at the bars, with all the girls and free flowing liquor. But escorts work for some people, especially those that don't want to work to get 'GFE."( one year I did quite a few escorts from cumintj, but won't go into details how I did them)

Tastas4me:

I generally agree with this statement, especially if she chooses you, instead of you choosing her. It's usually always bad if they pick you, and usually if they are that aggressive they probably aren't the best looking in the bar either. ( girls like this get newbies all the time to bite)

But if they want to negotiate I don't think it's all bad, as long as they are flexible in their demands, but quite frankly I like it when nobody negotiates and I pay her in the end what I think is fair.

 

[Alex B. Wake up!]

that's an interesting report on the chica network, tatas. thanks. I suspected it was that efficient.

but I didn't understand this sentence:



in particular the part about it not being you who approached her?

 

[JC Rules!]

how frequently do you patronize TJ providers?

and of those, what perceneforum.xxxe are escorts?

 

[Wott Wott]

Gentlemen, it's very simple. As a rule of thumb, I learned that at the first hint of negativity from a chika you need to tell her to take a hike and move on to another. It's not like they are in limited supply in TJ. If she is too eager and promises you heaven but it was'nt you who aproached her then that is a big red flag too, (too good to be true). If you negotiate and she counters your offer, that alone tells you she will be trouble in the room as well. As far as profiling the girls, well they do that to us too. I was in AB one time and was negotiating with this hot little mama to let me shoot my load in her mouth as part of the deal and then she declines and tells me I'm a pig. She went back with her friends and in no time none of the girls in that half of the room would give me the time of day. Had better luck at HK!

 

[jaysetsfire]

Fireballs,

You generally have a good memory, however that escort that was accused of having STD's...actually changed her name and worked with us....was very successful and then crossed into the US. I haven't heard from her in a bit.

 

[Kieran D]

I'm going to side with Amigomio on this one. I doubt given chicas negative reviews has any effect on her business, especially if she is working in the bars.

But I guess it will make that one monger giving a negative feel better.

On the flip side I think I could count on my fingers the number of "providers" that have got positive reviews, and then I sought those "provider" out because of their review. Tanya the famous escort is one, and Guadalupe the famous SG is another, but after that I'm hard pressed to think of other girls I wanted to do off the internet because they got positive reviews. ( usually I just can't find them that day)

I can't remember the last time I read a negative review, and then saw that particle chica in the bar, and told myself.....that's the evil one.

Now with "escorts" reviews are more important, because that's all you have to go on. But I remember some idiot monger was in love with one escort, but she rejected him, and he came on the board to try to ruin her reputation even going to far as claiming she had a "STD" and everybody should avoid her.

She actually quit the business because of it, but probably more because the monger was a total freak and nutjob than she quit because business was down. But guys like me don't always listen to such bullshit stories, about bad service or STDs, we realize there is two sides to a story, and I actually tried to book a session with the escort I'm talking about, but it was too late she was long gone.

"Wizdom escorts" is another example, nobody gets knocked more than "Wizdom escorts" but when Don puts out the welcome sign, mongering come knocking. Did "Wizdom" lose any monger business, probably some, but the times I been there, this guy takes calls like an air traffic controlling...he is that busy in the days, but later at night it slows down, because most of his escorts don't want to work late.

 

[baseball freak]

thanks, guys.

that's a funny Keith Moon story, OC.



Good read. When she declined an hour in front of the hotel manager, that's when I felt I had lost her.

I'll respect that feeling in the future.



I'll bet you're right in that a changing face (or in any way changing the way they act) leads to a poor performance.

But speaking for myself, I don't have enough money or leche to patronize rip-off providers, so I pay attention to the reports.

And therefore I don't underestimate the potential of the internet to improve service. In one sense, I think it has with the introduction of escorts and GFE service, both of which survive to a large extent and in their own ways by virtue of the internet.

What we need is a forum dedicated to identifying providers specifically and substantively so that the chicas, their padrodites, and their competition can see what is being posted about them.

In time, it'll exert some influence.

 

[AussieGirl]

Our sin is vanity in the sense that we (and I include myself here) what we write is taken to the full extent of the word in the real world.

Remember I have a Monterrey Yahoo group with 1300 posts per month (no spam) and I have seen guys trying to boycott girls with no avail.

Reason is very simple, same as it happens here: no repeats and of all the members reading the forums, only 4-6 go for the girl.
Plus the majority of the customers come from the real world, not the forums.

Plus, my guys and the guys here, the ones that really spend money, have a tendency of not repeating girls or changing to the next one after a few trys, even if the girl is a good provider.

So, the forums do help, but only the many that read them and of those, less than a few will have the inclination of boycotting the Paulina.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I believe that you are underestimating the power of the Internet. While there are few who post on this site, there are many more who do read the threads for information. If you enter the site from the home page, you will notice that there are many, many users who visit. Only a few actually post their experiences and share their opinions.

In any event, my apologies for raising your blood pressure unnecessarily. It is not an issue with profound repercussions. I still would like to get a positive ID on her because, from her physical description, she seems to match the kind of BG that I am attracted to.


Yes, let us hope that it is only the suckers that she has left for customers.


It is not the mistakes that we should fear; it is not learning from the mistakes. Negotiate everything before hand and if the chica reneges, that is the time to bolt. In this case, when she refused to accept the hour at the hotel, that would have been the red flag for me. Once she was naked over your knee and you are spanking her, it does seem that you have committed yourself to pay for at least some kind of service.

 

[Lance]

Pelongera, human magnets will atract the worst of the girls.

Said human magnets will set foot at the club and on the spot the girls will "read" you from head to toe, know exactly what you are looking for and will pretend to the last dot in an "i" that they are the last girl on the face of the Earth and will have you eating from their hands in less than 10 minutes.

Even if you are paying they will have the full control of the session, downstairs and upstairs too.

What gives them up is exactly their weakness, changing face on the spot, meaning that on the floor they will act one way, but once away and on their way to the room their attitude will change 180 degreess in the opposite direction.

Very easy to catch them, but the trick is to catch them early so you can change your mind, and don't pay a peso.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I want you to take a page from Keith Moon, drummer for The Who, and I don't mean the getting drunk and choking on your own vomit. A groupie who was about to get the shaft from Keith, looked at his puny dick and laughing said "Who do you expect to please with that?", Keith said "Me".

Those girls are paid to give you pleasure, never forget that.

 

[Ballet Dancer]

and yet, my becoming a human magnet for scammers is exactly what I’m worried about!

And there’s good reason to worry, because I’ve got a couple things working against my being able to detect scammers during the negotiation : (1) I’ll fuck most any pussy and (2) I hate rejecting women so that, if they appear to be interested, I’m inclined to go for it; hence, I’m easily fooled by scammers.

So let's look closely at the sequence of events and feel free to tell me if and When would you have bailed. Or would you have hung in there for a pop?:

(1) on our way up out of the bar, a younger, better looking monger hugs her in front of me

(2) she goes to the restroom in Hong Kong. Takes five minutes to return.

(3) at the Cascades (hotel) reception, she declines an hour. I rent a half hour room.

(4) once in the room, she strips very slowly.

(5) after stripping, she showers.

(6) after showers, I throw her over my knee and spank her about ten times (which she doesn’t stop as soon as I had expected her to, I might add. : )

(7) she won’t let me finger her.

(8) she restricts my tongue to her clit and generally squirms away, which was especially annoying since her clit was so small it was hard to find in the first place!

At that seforum.xxxe, I stood up and starting putting on the condom on my unenthusiastic dick. Once on, I took it off again and took a piss.
When I came out she was dressed.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I totally agree. Only a fraction of the people in the clubs in Zona Norte know about the monger boards. A boycott by us has the same impact the boycotts of Disneyland have the church groups have.

Don't get me, wrong, IDing chicas like her is great since it saves us from learning the hard way, but it is foolhardy to think she's hurting for customers due to bad press on mpnet. Hong Kong is a revolving door and tons of n00bs that she can work over.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Yeah right, Gmbrldx, of course.
Sites like this.

Have I missed the Statistics Department???

What??? how many customers from this website will stop going specificly after her after reading the post???

Believe me Gm, on my own experience, none.

Even if I can use both hands and say 10, she wouldn't even notice.

Cause if it's that number (which I think is too high), there will always be others.

P. T. Barnum never did say "there's a sucker born every minute" ,but it will be them, those suckers, that will be after Paulina.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Pelongera, as long as you don't turn into a human magnet for girls like this, everything is OK.

But honestly speaking, you need to show your girls that you are the guy with the money AND the cojones, not them.

 

[imyour101]

no, not her.

The Paulina that dissed me has lighter skin, jet black hair, and wears eight inch high heels. She says she works until 8AM. I don't know about that, but she is there very late on Thursdays and Friday nights.

I agree about the un-professionalism. I try to appeal to professionalism. I'm not into falling in love with these chicks or scoring some free pussy. I just want a good sex doctress who keeps her appointments and delivers the goods.

But I should think that, at some seforum.xxxe, her dissing clients is bad for Hong Kong's business. Not including pussy, I dropped over hundred dollars in fichas, tips, etc. that day.

After her, I did NOT return to the place. And I'm not sure I will because I've lost face.

That can't be good for HK's business.