Went back and tried, got a middle aged milf with tough hands, said no bbbj but could bodyslide or DATY for more (WTF?). Took the bodyslide option and she kept sliding up and down and she was really good with her legs and making it feel like fs, felt very real and exploded, drained me completely and was very happy. BUT then the rest of the massage started and I had to stop as the pain was too much, too hard and pulling on my hair, even with oil, it was the worst and I was in agony for three days after !!! No good mileage, rates were waay too high (opted as low as I could but was still too much, but wanted a release and not much to choose from out west now.