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I agree w u except the 'Jewish theocracy' part, especially since u mentioned being agnostic.
IMO, mixing government w religion, any religion that is, it's a terrible idea and leads to big trouble down the road.

I agree. A theocracy is unacceptable anywhere but in the Middle East. All the Muslim countries are theocracies.

Unfortunately, if Israel became a pure democracy, within a few elections there would be an Arab majority government, and I think we all know what would happen to Jewish Israeli citizens' rights if that were to happen.

Look on Wikipedia for the population of Jews and Christians in Muslim countries, how they have diminished since 1948, and how both Jews and Christians are treated in Muslim countries today...
 
Only tolerant to a certain extent. If assholes keep doing more border closures and disrupt people's lives by idiotic protesting, there won't be any more tolerance. The pandemic protesters did more damage to the economy than the pandemic itself. Idiots were using their own children on the border crossings in order to prevent themselves from getting arrested. Public protests should never be allowed on federal border crossings. Do it in front of your local city hall.
The biggest threat to society is anarchy.

The 2020 Floyd race riots in the U.S., included violence. Looting. Disregard to human life, property and the law - these were given a defacto pass by the left. Then no wonder you have capital hill and Ottawa convoy - tolerance of this shit breeds more of it !! We need to stop with the partisan crap and call out wrong when It is wrong !!
 
It's not ridiculous. The ridiculous part is you thinking it's ridiculous. When Biden needs to call Turdo to ask him what's going on at the border, you know it's serious. I felt like bringing a chain and dragging those people out of there from my vehicle's tow hooks myself. What good does protesting do at the end of the pandemic anyway? I hope those people rot in prison. You don't block the border where the most economic trade between 2 countries in the world happens right here. Turdo should have called in the army from day one instead of sitting on his hands. Canada made headline news around the world for the wrong reasons. It wasn't annoying, Dumbass. It was catastrophic.
You're using rhetorical arguments to try to make a quantitative argument. That doesn't make snese.

The scale of GDP loss caused by two plus years of lockdown was absolutely massive. The border issue had some short-term impact in terms of lost GDP, but by comparison, it was minuscule.

You can blah blah about "Turdo" all you want (I also don't like the guy, for what it's worth). It isn't going to change the fact you're trying to convince people that a mouse is bigger than an elephant.
 
I agree. A theocracy is unacceptable anywhere but in the Middle East. All the Muslim countries are theocracies.

Unfortunately, if Israel became a pure democracy, within a few elections there would be an Arab majority government, and I think we all know what would happen to Jewish Israeli citizens' rights if that were to happen.

Look on Wikipedia for the population of Jews and Christians in Muslim countries, how they have diminished since 1948, and how both Jews and Christians are treated in Muslim countries today...
Your point is definitely valid but a it won't help since such a theocracy would be an apartheid society that would be non-viable on a long run. As Arafat said many years ago, the Palestinian cause will prevail due to the Palestinian woman uterus.
Not an easy solution, esp. on the short term...I still think the moderate factions on both sides should engage in finding acceptable solutions on long term. Can these factions win majority support? Hard to say.
 
Me, but agnostic in practice.

I would support a 2 state solution with all Muslim countries agreeing to Israel's right to exist as a Jewish theocracy, and the Palestinians being given back a reasonable amount of land with natural resources and livable borders.

But with Hamas and Bibi in power on each side that won't happen, not to mention all the other Arab countries that want to annihilate us... :(
And why does so many people hate the Jews ? Cause the kikes ainโ€™t nice people man
Dirty greedy animals
 
There are traumatized people, psychopaths and opportunists on both sides. It is intellectually lazy to say one side are the good guys and the other side are the bad guys. If your family suffers atrocities the ones who did it are the bad guys. Tom Clancy had the idea of having a neutral third party referee a brokered two state solution. His idea was to use the Swiss Guards. While using the Swiss as referees may sound ridiculous, the sentiment makes more sense to me than any other ideas being offered.
One side have a country the other side doesn't. there is no comparison sorry on this one.
 
Not in the last 10+ years, though, when everything that was done before was reversed. Read ur history and u'll find out that a great man of peace, Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated by a Jewish extremist.
This does not justify in any way the mass killings in cold blood that happened a week ago.
Right
 
One side have a country the other side doesn't. there is no comparison sorry on this one.
Do you think peaceful coexistence is possible and can the current leadership on all sides get there? We can make judgments and feel like we occupy the moral high ground, but that accomplishes nothing. I do not know how to make things better, but it is really easy to make things worse. Violence begets violence.
 
Vatican City is staying outside of this argumentโ€ฆ๐Ÿค”
So is the Dalai Lama๐Ÿ˜…
dalai lama shut up GIF by The Joy Experiment
 
You're using rhetorical arguments to try to make a quantitative argument. That doesn't make snese.

The scale of GDP loss caused by two plus years of lockdown was absolutely massive. The border issue had some short-term impact in terms of lost GDP, but by comparison, it was minuscule.

You can blah blah about "Turdo" all you want (I also don't like the guy, for what it's worth). It isn't going to change the fact you're trying to convince people that a mouse is bigger than an elephant.
You're not thinking that what the protesters were stating is that Canada doesn't want to do business with the rest of the world by the embarrassing act of blocking the most significant border crossing in the world. If you don't want to trade with the rest of the world, then we might as well be Nicaragua. If I was Prime Minister, the Armed Forces would have dragged these people out after the first hour of the border blockade, and send them to prison, no questions asked.
 
Do you think peaceful coexistence is possible and can the current leadership on all sides get there? We can make judgments and feel like we occupy the moral high ground, but that accomplishes nothing. I do not know how to make things better, but it is really easy to make things worse. Violence begets violence.

Yes itโ€™s possible, but it depends what Israel wants, since they have the upper hand, both militarily and the support they have from the western countries particularly the US.

If the US wants this to end, they can but most politicians in the US will not dare to challenge Israel due to the heavy influence of the Jews Americans and their long lobbying arms.

The ultra right governing Israel for the past 20 plus years reversed all progress made in Oslo accord and they will just want the Palestinian leave their homes (exiled) in the millions of them so they can have the Jews state to themselves (thatโ€™s the only reasonable conclusion that I have come to believe). And the escalation of the bombing is to force 1 million plus Palestinians into exile to Egypt and Jordan and other Arab states, similar to those 3 million that were exiled during the 60s.

Note: this does not justify the Hamas killing of innocent people.
 
Guys, I won't be "many liner" on this thread.

I just want to post some Oxford discussions from 8 years ago. From that time, Hamas got stronger, its killing got more barbaric, and Palestinians riots got more vocal and violent around the world...

Watch from 2:11

 
Guys, I won't be "many liner" on this thread.

I just want to post some Oxford discussions from 8 years ago. From that time, Hamas got stronger, its killing got more barbaric, and Palestinians riots got more vocal and violent around the world...

Watch from 2:11

There is two sides to every storyโ€ฆif you want to be balanced, you have to consider both sides.


Hamas commander me to power in Gaza in 2007 long after, Israel refused to settle the two state solution agreed by both sides.
 
There is two sides to every storyโ€ฆif you want to be balanced, you have to consider both sides.


Hamas commander me to power in Gaza in 2007 long after, Israel refused to settle the two state solution agreed by both sides.
I agree to discuss anything. I will check any link. What I am not ready is to hear under my window the Palestinan crowd in Toronto, chanting " kill them all". No, not those who were with the microphone with good English, other ones - who get here, and those who were talking in Arabick who knows what.

I don't see the difference between ISIS wiped out and Hamas. Both beheaded and raped and burned people live powerless. ISIS for religious reasons mostly (as far as I read), Hamas for political reasons.
 
I agree to discuss anything. I will check any link. What I am not ready is to hear under my window the Palestinan crowd in Toronto, chanting " kill them all". No, not those who were with the microphone with good English, other ones - who get here, and those who were talking in Arabick who knows what.

I don't see the difference between ISIS wiped out and Hamas. Both beheaded and raped and burned people live powerless. ISIS for religious reasons mostly (as far as I read), Hamas for political reasons.
I agree itโ€™s gruesome what Hamas has done. Question is, if they had fighting jets and firepower like Israel, do you think they would resort to that?

Or even better question, if Palestine had their own country, would they do that? Thatโ€™s why I think Israel is the responsible party in the first placeโ€ฆand they need to be pressured to find a lasting solution.
 
I agree itโ€™s gruesome what Hamas has done. Question is, if they had fighting jets and firepower like Israel, do you think they would resort to that?

Or even better question, if Palestine had their own country, would they do that? Thatโ€™s why I think Israel is the responsible party in the first placeโ€ฆand they need to be pressured to find a lasting solution.
The whole region needs a referee in place for a couple of peaceful and prosperous generations. Unfortunately I do not see a way for that to happen. Now would be a good time for righteous aliens, or God or mega AI to show up. Since that will not happen, history will keep repeating but with more and more sophisticated weapons, tactics and information warfare. The ultimate winners will have as their prize a pile of rubble and a despicable legacy.
 
Pepsi proposes:
a hot model giving each side a soda.
 

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    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available, Today's special recommendation ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience .must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ’‹give you amazing time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Molly๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new quick witted and funny girl Molly is here to entertain you not only with her sensual massage skills but also with her sense of humour and her happy go lucky friendly attitude. Molly, a fair skinned mixed race beauty h
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธAmberCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: JENNY, MIMI, & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    hi Sugar Love Spa today have ๐Ÿ‘™Mimi, ๐Ÿ‘™Jenny, ๐Ÿ‘™Tifany come to enjoy perfect time Sugar Love spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 365-2688๐Ÿ“ฒโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, YOYO & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups & a VERY sexy figure. She provides the best versatile services. YOYO is a hidden GEM, & a total SUPERSTAR!
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  45. Moneylee:
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  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day, Young Cute Chinese Jesse, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today.Young pretty Vicky 25โ€™s with curve body good massage and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s good massage, young cute Sophia 27โ€™s slime and nice GFE Lina and young student Taiwanese Victoria 25โ€™s slime open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage,pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ASHA, SARIKA, AMMU, MONIKA, ANGEL, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, NISHA, DIYA, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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