Boundaries between massage and counselling

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I work part time as a reflexologist at a local mental charity. I worked with a new client today who was suffering with long-term depression and work related stress. She discussed her issues openly, and I tried to respond in ways that I would find helpful - suggesting local support groups, more positive ways of thinking about her situation, small changes she could make to her lifestyle. I also spoke about things that had helped me when I was going through a period of anxiety and work related stress. But I felt that the focus of the session had changed from a reflexology treatment into a counselling session.

For the next session I was thinking of (tactfully!) suggesting to the client that they would get more benefit from the treatment if they closed their eyes and tried to focus on relaxing. Then again, maybe the treatment is enabling the client to 'unload' and speak about their problems.

I am not a qualified counsellor and have made the client aware of this. But looking back involving myself in a discussion about the clients issues was probably sending out mixed messages. Then again, I think some discussion of the issues are appropriate, after all it is the main reason the client booked a treatment.

Any advice, constructive criticism or experiences on these matters would be much appreciated
 
Hi there
No matter how hard you try - as a caring therapist this will often be an issue for you - it is for me too. The important thing is not to advise anything that you're not qualified to - some clients will take on everything you say and will assume that you are qualified to advise them so make sure that you're not sharing opinions in the way you may do so with a friend. This is particularly important with clients that you see really regularly. It sounds to me that your advise to look into local support groups and small ways to look at things more positively was within our 'boundaries' as a complementary therapist and so often it just helps to offload so you undoubtedly helped just by listening - so don't be too hard on yourself.
 
Thanks for the reply 1246TEACH

With hindsight I think I definately went to far with my 'self-disclosure'. But i've read up on it, and can see why this is not a helpful approach, and I can see the reasons why I strayed over that boundary so I will be more aware of it next time.
 
It's hard not to let the boundaries slip sometimes. You have figured it out yourself and I think you're attitude of be more careful next time is a healthy one. You can forgive yourself and move on... after all, it's clear that if you let a boundary slip for once, it's purely because you are a caring person.

Thanks for sharing, I'm sure many others will have been there too.
 
Well, do try and get them to relax next time, but you may also wish to investigate getting a basic training in counselling, which will help you with your own boundaries.
 
Counselling skills are invaluable for a therapist, however, I'd not worry so much about ethical boundaries that are set purely for counsellors. There are many differences between being a therapist and being a counsellor. It is acceptable to offer advice and self-disclosure as a therapist. I have a better relationships with my clients who have a anxiety and depression than those with conditions I have no experience of such as M.S.
As long as the session was not dominated about you, I'd not worry.

Sometimes telling the client to relax when they are unable to makes them more stressed. Go with the flow and let the client guide the session.
 
Hi there

years ago, before ever going down the therapist path I found that I had a stream of friends continually knocking on my door and telling me about their problems. One day, as one friend was leaving another pulled up in her car and called out "put the kettle on I've had a terrible day". It was at this point I wondered what I was doing. Was I helping my friends and was I giving good advice (and was it my place to do so)?
I then decided to take a basic Counselling course and it was the best thing I did. It came in really useful when I went on to become a therapist as I knew the bounderies for my clients etc and more importantly I knew when to refer on. I couldn't know EVERYTHING and it was more professional to admit when I didn't but to have a list of trusted other professional people who I could refer my clients to.

I think what you have done so far has been good hearted and caring and it WILL affect you more if it it's a problem you have dealt with yourself so no harm done. It might be an idea to think about taking a basic Counselling course for your own sake?

Take care

Love and light

reikiangel
xxx
 
I work in a hospice and since I've been here have observed that when we work so intimately with people, it can create an environment of trust. I have found that many people open up to me more than a healthcare professional.

You may find the following book useful if you are experiencing this:

"Relating to Clients - The Therapeutic Relationship for Complementary Therapists"
by Su Fox (Jessica Kingsley Publishers)

I found this to be of great use in examining this aspect of my work.
 
I suspect you're right, you probably would benefit from a basic skills course. Boundaries are one of the big areas such a course would cover, both in terms of what is / isn't ethical and what constitutes (in) appropriate self-disclosure.

The whole touch issue in therapy is a hot potato and there are very mixed opinions. There can me a place for some careful, considered, touch, but massage would, almost always, be a (bit) step too far.

However, your situation is almost the opposite - you're offering massage but giving some counselling, Be very careful, you could, potentially be sued for giving inappropriate advice etc. I suspect your insurance for massage probably wouldn't cover you for any "counselling" or advice you offered,

One option may be to get cards from local therapists and offer them to your clients. You may be able to negotiate a referral fee with the therapists.
 
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    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒนwelcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time
  38. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  40. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  41. Spa in Markham:
  42. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  43. Pink Flower Spa:
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cutie & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cutie is young, very pretty, long hair, great services. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open kind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, MIA, NANCY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have three girls working today, Vivi, Sarah and Kiki. They are young, beautiful, sexy and cute. They can give massages and are also fun
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜so open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  50. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Meera and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
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