Carmen at Legends WOWSA!

Isn't that the case at most studios in town?

Basically what these SPs are offering is standard Full Service with a la carte extras and pricing.
In most any other city if they advertised their services as GFE they would get laughed out of town.
 
I guess some guys are under the impression that that is the definition of GFE?

I guess the SP's there can charge whatever the guys are willing to pay (and return) for...

(As for me, I've taken my "business" elsewhere a long time ago.)
 
And once they have the cash up front, the definition of their GFE changes

If the SP is not prepared to offer ALL GFE items, than it cannot be called GFE

Only offer DATY as part of safe GFE? (how is that safe?), then not GFE

Only offer DFK? then not GFE

Only offer BBBJ? then not GFE

Offer all 3 (DFK, BBBJ and DATY), then that is GFE

Anything less is just full service with extras and extra $$$
 
There is also "sGFE" which includes DFK, CBJ and DATY.

There are certainly girls at Legends that offer sGFE.

All I can say, is put a "hat" on John.

If the CBJ is done really well, I don't notice that much of a difference.
 
To hell with this safe GFE bullshit. It's just a term started by Legends when they first opened in order to gouge the client for extra money.
Just be honest and call it like it is. It's regular Full Service with extra charges for an A La Carte menu.
There is only one definition of GFE. Either you do it or you don't!
 
That is what Carmen said, Safe GFE. DFK, CBJ and DATY - fine with me.





Well, with all the men these girls see, being safe is better then being sorry with one wrong guy.
 
Absolutely nothing wrong with being safe. In fact I would say that the vast majority of studio SPs don't even allow any extras. Every girl has her boundaries and I fully respect that.

All I'm saying is that I absolutely hate it when an SP tells me that she charges $300 for GFE when all she allows is for a client to go down on her.
Just be honest about it. Tell me that Full Service is $240 and that you want an extra $60 for DATY. Or an extra $50 for kissing and so on. That's all we ask for.
 
I agree with you Mick, a standard GFE is understood to include a BBBJ.

But pretty much everyone now understands that the term "sGFE" includes FS, DFK and DATY with a CBJ, so why not use the term?? It's easier than saying FS with $60. extra for DFK and DATY. We're trying to make things simpler here, not more complicated.
 
Take a look at Taylor from mtl and what she is providing for $$ per hr. Then you will see the folly of Edmonton MP rates.
 
Because over time the term has become much too vague. If all the items you listed above were on the menu, then fine. Then when an SP says Safe GFE I know exactly what is available. But now it's to the point where some SPs will tell quote you a GFE session and neither kissing, DATY, or Digits are allowed. What's up with that? It's all a big money grab if you ask me.
If an SP is up front and honest with me, I will respect her for it.
 
Yeah, but the "GFE" term generally has become too vague. So basically what you're saying is don't trust any SP when she says she provides a GFE or sGFE session. Get her to tell you exactly what's included.

Sadly, you may be right on that Mick. But if that's true, then the whole "GFE" term is useless garbage and we may as well go back to FS with YMMV!
 
Because it is blatantly False, and it's time we punt this BS to the curb

This "safe" was purely a market ploy used to dupe guys into paying for one of the little extras the gals used to have for their regulars.

sGFE cannot be safe if DATY or kissing is involved now can it?

a true sGFE would have CBJ, NO kissing and DATY with damn NO? Otherwise is cannot possibly be Safe anything

Yes the term GFE has been bastardized by the use of this "safe" or the got your cash now it means...

Let's call a spade a spade and keep it simple:

Full Service with extras the SP feels comfortable with

GFE is real GFE like out of Montreal, ALL GFE or it's not GFE

and no 'tude either



Yes, sadly Mick is right, I am tired of this safe and gfe nonsense going on, we never have that issue with a Montreal gal, and price wise...
 
a true sGFE would have CBJ, NO kissing and DATY with damn NO? Otherwise is cannot possibly be Safe anything

Good point Mikey.
 
Hey, the "real" truth is, SPs are not girlfriends, so yeah, the term "GFE" was stupid to begin with.

I think providers should just advertise the actual services they offer; e.g. FS, DFK, BBBJ, greek etc.

Otherwise there will forever be confusion over this.

"GFE" should "RIP"!
 
Agreed, I'll start digging the hole for it...



somebody, watch my back will ya?
 
Gee I don't know, I read a recent review of her and it seems the folly would be to waste any money on her.
 
Ya, Just reading Taylor Dreams reviews.

I would rather spend $$$ for an awesome hour ( with Carmen ) then $$ for DQ guy got with Taylor.
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLayra Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (1pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  40. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good looking ,strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปgive you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body , young cute Sophia slime 30โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl Hitti very young๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Gorgeous Busty Boobs Taiwan๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ Girl Angel working with Sexy Exotic Filipina๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญGirl Molly & Sweet Shy Pretty Girl Kitty๐Ÿ˜ป and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and Bella. They are both short, young, pretty, with lovely smiles and good massage.
  49. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Sami Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girlโ€จโ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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