Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

[stripfan]

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[xtc27]

The current infection figures for Ontario make it clear that the vaccinated are doing most of the transmitting, not the unvaccinated.

Unvax = 3.7 x more likely 2b infected. Also they are infectious (transmitting contagion) longer…

They’re the power forwards driving omicron attack

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-epi-confirmed-cases-post-vaccination.pdf?la=en

 

[stripfan]

Unvax = 3.7 x more likely 2b infected. Also they are infectious (transmitting contagion) longer…

They’re the power forwards driving omicron attack

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-epi-confirmed-cases-post-vaccination.pdf?la=en

That is complete nonsense ignoring current stats. Here is a typical CP24 report, which are all basically the same. The vaccinated with covid heavily outnumber the unvaccinated so they must be doing most of the transmission as well.

Ontario reports 3,301 new COVID-19 cases; highest 7-day rolling average in 7 months

Ontario is reporting more than 3,000 new COVID-19 cases for the second day in a row and four more virus-related deaths as the seven-day rolling average topped 2,000 on Saturday.

www.cp24.com

 

[xtc27]

That is complete nonsense ignoring current stats. Here is a typical CP24 report, which are all basically the same. The vaccinated with covid heavily outnumber the unvaccinated so they must be doing most of the transmission as well.

Ontario reports 3,301 new COVID-19 cases; highest 7-day rolling average in 7 months

Ontario is reporting more than 3,000 new COVID-19 cases for the second day in a row and four more virus-related deaths as the seven-day rolling average topped 2,000 on Saturday.

www.cp24.com

Fact…. Un vx = 3.7 times more likely 2b infected, & infected longer. Small army of Typhoid Marys… COVID Charlie’s.

But it’s just a fact. We gotta live w it… u still visiting spas, son? Wearing mask in there?

 

[stripfan]

Fact…. Un vx = 3.7 times more likely 2b infected, & infected longer. Small army of Typhoid Marys… COVID Charlie’s.

But it’s just a fact. We gotta live w it… u still visiting spas, son? Wearing mask in there?

Kindly explain why they heavily outnumber the unvaccinated in terms of covid infection.

 

[stripfan]

The Risk of Vaccinated COVID Transmission Is Not Low

After my son got sick, I dived into the data, and it turns out vaccinated people can and do spread COVID

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[xtc27]

Kindly explain why they heavily outnumber the unvaccinated in terms of covid infection.

Bcuz there way more of us, 80% vs 20%…

U evaded question , son. Visiting spas lately? This is msgplanet, eh? What we’re here 4?

Hobbying @ all?

 

[niceandnaughty]

You just answered your own question.
You are an asshole .
Because this influenza virus just kills people, and "that's all it is bud " !!!
You are an asshole to grab on to any unscientific gobblie-gook you found on some warped chat room to use to justify your own dumb reclkess attitude .
The rare person with troubled breathing enough that can't wear a mask would be glad to wear it to save their failing life .
Your foolish beliefs, reasons and arguments are so twisted to suit what your gullible thinking has been tricked into believing from fanatic misinformation .

Influenza kills many especially elderly and is much more dangerous for younger children than covid. That's a fact. No need to argue. Let's all just state facts backed by real science

 

[niceandnaughty]

Bcuz there way more of us, 80% vs 20%…

U evaded question , son. Visiting spas lately? This is msgplanet, eh? What were here 4?

Hobbying @ all?

The recent numbers testing positive were 14 % for unvaccinated who represent almost 19% of the population and 86% for vaccinated who represent 81% of the population. Today's count for ICU patients was 89 unvaccinated and 47 fully vaccinated but they don't take into account the more than 100 unknown who are all fully vaccinated. The reason is they don't know which vaccine or mix of vaccines were administered so they count them as unknown.

 

[stripfan]

Bcuz there way more of us, 80% vs 20%…

U evaded question , son. Visiting spas lately? This is msgplanet, eh? What were here 4?

Hobbying @ all?

The recent numbers testing positive were 14 % for unvaccinated who represent almost 19% of the population and 86% for vaccinated who represent 81% of the population. Today's count for ICU patients was 89 unvaccinated and 47 fully vaccinated but they don't take into account the more than 100 unknown who are all fully vaccinated. The reason is they don't know which vaccine or mix of vaccines were administered so they count them as unknown.

Another reason to count them as unknown is to maintain the narrative that the vaccines actually work.

 

[Hornet]

That is complete nonsense ignoring current stats. Here is a typical CP24 report, which are all basically the same. The vaccinated with covid heavily outnumber the unvaccinated so they must be doing most of the transmission as well.

Ontario reports 3,301 new COVID-19 cases; highest 7-day rolling average in 7 months

Ontario is reporting more than 3,000 new COVID-19 cases for the second day in a row and four more virus-related deaths as the seven-day rolling average topped 2,000 on Saturday.

www.cp24.com

Explain these stats

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[funliness]

Happy New Year

of course the risk is high, she sees a number of customers in a week Who have been in contact with who-knows how many others. Transmission is inevitable with close intimate session contact for that amount of time. On the bright side - it seems less severe - but you still have to isolate for at least 5 days if you get it.

 

[stripfan]

Explain these stats

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The so-called stats are estimates, not the actual numbers as given in the CP24 report. Whoever is producing this fantasy wants to maintain the narrative that the unvaccinated outnumber the vaccinated in terms of infection. This is in fact the opposite of the truth.
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[stripfan]

Omicron has the ability to evade the vaccines.

Triple-Vaccinated More Than FOUR Times As Likely to Test Positive For Omicron Than Unvaccinated, Data Shows – The Daily Sceptic

According to new ONS data, the triple-vaccinated are 4.5 times more likely to test positive for Omicron than the unvaccinated. The double-vaccinated, meanwhile, are 2.3 times more likely to have Omicron.

dailysceptic.org

 

[Hornet]

The so-called stats are estimates, not the actual numbers as given in the CP24 report. Whoever is producing this fantasy wants to maintain the narrative that the unvaccinated outnumber the vaccinated in terms of infection. This is in fact the opposite of the truth.
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CP24 doesn’t produce their own numbers. They report the numbers provided by the Province and it’s the Province that also produce the severity by vaccination status. Same source. Those are also not estimates, those are actual numbers that have been extrapolated into a meaningful comparative baseline (per million) to show relative risks (odds) levels since the vaccinated people significantly outweigh the unvaccinated people and raw numbers do not paint an accurate picture. You obviously failed math (and likely every other subject) in school.

 

[HappyBoy]

As more get vaccinated the number of cases attributed to those that are vaccinated, partially, and unvaccinated will change.

imho general getting vaccinated ‘reduces‘ the probability of getting covid, reduces the severity, and spreading to others.
Omicron fortunately seems much milder and given it is so easily transmissible everyone will get it and hopefully we may achieve herd immunity without great cost of lives. Hopefully the next variant will be even weaker.

Anyways all anyone can do is use whatever data is available to make decisions (irrespective of pharma being a business and pushing boosters).

 

[jimmyd]

By being unvxnated, they deliberately chose 2b disease vectors… gasoline in pandemic fire…

Unvax = 3.7 x more likely 2b infected, 33x more likely 2b in hospital…*

At least Typhoid Mary did not choose to be carrying typhoid… antivaxxers did chose … … some working in hospitals & nursing homes … that’s friggn murder

U gotta no, anti-vax here = enormously unpopular… basically yer IDs = toxic… nobody gonna trust her opinion, most ignoring these IDs… otherwise they’d b shitposting all u write…

We wanna get back 2 spas, instead of continual lockdowns… u guys = Friends of the Virus… basically the enemy…

me? … already got my lockdown squeezes lined up…

* Da facts: https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...pi-confirmed-cases-post-vaccination.pdf?la=en

You don’t make sense. People who don’t want the vaccine, don’t want Covid. And you’re forgetting about the ones that have had Covid. I’ve had Covid and have better immunity than you.

But you’re right. It would be nice to have all this behind us, and be back to normal.


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[jimmyd]

I guess you guys must be right. It has to be 15% of the population responsible for all the spread.




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[dlhlfst]

Kindly explain why they heavily outnumber the unvaccinated in terms of covid infection.

This is a bit of a loaded question. The responses vary, depending on what you're actually asking here.

The vaccinated will heavily outnumber the unvaccinated in terms of COVID infection on an absolute basis because there are far more vaccinated individuals.

If we're speaking on a ratio basis and not in terms of absolute numbers, I'd have to see the evidence that would support this. The other link you provided only stated that, of those testing positive for the Omicron variant specifically, the vaccinated are more likely to test positive than the unvaccinated -- but from looking at the data, it's unclear if that's held constant in terms of likelihood of the vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals getting tested to begin with, and it's also unclear if that means the unvaccinated are more likely to test positive for another variant.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

This is a bit of a loaded question. The responses vary, depending on what you're actually asking here.

The vaccinated will heavily outnumber the unvaccinated in terms of COVID infection on an absolute basis because there are far more vaccinated individuals.

If we're speaking on a ratio basis and not in terms of absolute numbers, I'd have to see the evidence that would support this. The other link you provided only stated that, of those testing positive for the Omicron variant specifically, the vaccinated are more likely to test positive than the unvaccinated -- but from looking at the data, it's unclear if that's held constant in terms of likelihood of the vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals getting tested to begin with, and it's also unclear if that means the unvaccinated are more likely to test positive for another variant.

These numbers will not be accurate because the PCR test isn't made to test for disease. Depending on the number of cycles they can increase so the called cases or decrease. The other tests far as I know they don't test for the virus they test for immune system responses. Infection rates does not matter, it's if the person immune system response works correctly.