Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

[sy barite]

...and the reasoned and respectful debate continues.

Guys on both sides of this debate should honestly ask themselves what evidence would make them change their positions on this topic. If you have trouble thinking of something that would change your mind, then that's a pretty good indication your opinion may be more based on ideology than reason.

It's hard to be absolutely sure of anything anymore, but the evidence against the "wisdom" of the tactics we've chosen to flatten the curve seems to be mounting. I have seen no good proof that vaccines have any ability to limit the spread of Omicron. Consequently, the argument for mandating vaccines is theatre. For people claiming we must keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed by serious cases of the unvaccinated, I would love to hear the cost-benefit analysis for that argument. With the vast majority of people still being uninfected and Omicron (or subsequent variations of the virus), being almost certain to touch everyone--how long should we subject society to closures, distancing, and masking? I am not advocating "let it rip". I'm saying it would be reasonable to assess and compare the cost of protecting the vulnerable vs continuing as we are.

For me, now would probably be the best time to get a case of Omicron. I'm a few weeks past the booster, (which incidentally did seem to have some worrying side effects of chest pain), so my immune response is probably as high as it's ever going to be unless the future holds some combo of significant natural immunity + another shot. I think the best thing I could do is stay away from the vulnerable...and see lots of MPs.

 

[jimmyd]

You are such a complete dumbfuck. You don’t understand anything.

the 71,000 doses are of the stuff that is authorized. It is the inventory on hand now, but more can come stupid.that is what is called “supply chain”. Those drugs are to help symptoms of those already infected but the goal is to stop the spread moron. If the spread was stopped then the inventory can be zero. If the spread was lower then the inventory can be much lower than 71,000. So only a complet fucking moron like yourselves would make a comment that 71,000 isn’t enough with absolutely no understanding of what those drugs do, who they are for, etc.

You then ask why would monoclonal antibody sites be offering monoclonal antibodies? Are you really that stupid? That is their whole purpose. Here’s your insane logic: “why would a gas station be offering gas?”

Pfizer authorization is just your usual deflection. You never answer or explain issues posed to you. All you ever do is “But, what about” like an ignorant fucking child. Then, like a fucking hypocrite, you ask why no one ever answers your question when those questions themselves were just just you avoiding questions posed to you. Proof positive you never graduated high school working whatever job you can get, which isn’t much, making no money, pretending to be smart to try to justify you pathetic little life living with you mom and dad. So no, I’m not going to play your childish little games and answer deflection questions only posed by you to avoid the questions you failed to answer because like the little coward you are, you are too afraid to answer them because you know you got caught and your fragile little ego can’t handle that so you deflect and run for cover. Guess what, we all see right through you as you trip yourself up and deploy these tactics all the time. And yes, you got caught again. You never actually read or watch anything. You focus on a headline, take it out of context and fail to comprehend the content.

You are so delusional that you might even be too far gone for CAMH.

Wow, you’re stupid, and makes this too easy for me. If the FDA pulled the authorization for monoclonal antibodies, Psaki is full of shit. The 71,000 remaining monoclonal antibody treatments are not authorized to be used. A doctor would be breaking the law if he administered them.

Yes, why are monoclonal antibody sites providing Paxlovid, sotrovimab, remdesivir, and molnupiravir? According to the article you provided, it does not say they are monoclonal antibodies, but says “Covid treatments still available…” And it does not say they are no longer available because the sites have closed. Your gas station analogy is moronic, as usual.

Your reply the the Pfizer question, is exactly what I expected. If you had any consistency and if you were intellectually honest, you’d say Pfizer should be pulled too. But we know you’re neither.

It’s all political and financial. You only see it from the perspective of mocking Florida. But you don’t see how you were duped into believing the vaccines were going to save us. You’re an old, fat fuck though, so you had no choice.


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[Hornet]

Wow, you’re stupid, and makes this too easy for me. If the FDA pulled the authorization for monoclonal antibodies, Psaki is full of shit. The 71,000 remaining monoclonal antibody treatments are not authorized to be used. A doctor would be breaking the law if he administered them.

Yes, why are monoclonal antibody sites providing Paxlovid, sotrovimab, remdesivir, and molnupiravir? According to the article you provided, it does not say they are monoclonal antibodies, but says “Covid treatments still available…” And it does not say they are no longer available because the sites have closed. Your gas station analogy is moronic, as usual.

Your reply the the Pfizer question, is exactly what I expected. If you had any consistency and if you were intellectually honest, you’d say Pfizer should be pulled too. But we know you’re neither.

It’s all political and financial. You only see it from the perspective of mocking Florida. But you don’t see how you were duped into believing the vaccines were going to save us. You’re an old, fat fuck though, so you had no choice.


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The monoclonal antibodies pulled only had Emergency Use authorization. Pfizer vaccine is Fully Approved.

You are such a dumbfuck. Florida treatment sites are pulling authorized treatments away from their citizens.

But thanks for confirming you are an uneducated looser with a dead end job living with your mom and dad.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

The monoclonal antibodies pulled only had Emergency Use authorization. Pfizer vaccine is Fully Approved.

You are such a dumbfuck

But thanks for confirming you are an uneducated looser with a dead end job living with your mom and dad.

Approved for a vaccine that has not been properly tested.

 

[Hornet]

Approved for a vaccine that has not been properly tested.

And where exactly is your proof (not your brainwashed opinion but actual proof) that the vaccine has not been properly tested? Please explain the scientific methods to properly test a vaccine that you can unequivocally prove were not performed to test the vaccine.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

And where exactly is your proof (not your brainwashed opinion but actual proof) that the vaccine has not been properly tested? Please explain the scientific methods to properly test a vaccine that you can unequivocally prove were not performed to test the vaccine.

It takes at least 5 years, you can not rush a vaccine into market. Trump’s operation warp speed is proof.

 

[Hornet]

It takes at least 5 years, you can not rush a vaccine into market. Trump’s operation warp speed is proof.

So, you have no actual proof, only opinion. Please show us your PhD, Masters or MD credentials in virology to explain why your opinion matters in this area.

 

[stripfan]

Booster kills Manitoba woman. Media refuses to tell the truth.

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[Deleted member 88306]

So, you have no actual proof, only opinion. Please show us your PhD, Masters or MD credentials in virology to explain why your opinion matters in this area.

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[Hornet]

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So your answer is a screenshot that says right at the top “usually”? Usually does not mean always. And you discount the fact that this was a global pandemic and every vaccine manufacturer dropped virtually everything else and focused exclusively on Covid. Vaccines “usually” take a long time due to money and resource availability (or lack there of). Those constraints were removed for Covid as it was “all hands on deck” with a laser focus on Covid.

Wow, another guy that failed in high school. You must be the Curly of the Stooges.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

So your answer is a screenshot that says right at the top “usually”? Usually does not mean always. And you discount the fact that this was a global pandemic and every vaccine manufacturer dropped virtually everything else and focused exclusively on Covid. Vaccines “usually” take a long time due to money and resource availability (or lack there of). Those constraints were removed for Covid as it was “all hands on deck” with a laser focus on Covid.

Wow, another guy that failed in high school. You must be the Curly of the Stooges.

You're an idiot if you think you can make a safe vaccine in less than a year.

 

[sy barite]

You're an idiot if you think you can make a safe vaccine in less than a year.

I know it's probably unrealistically hopeful of me to try to engage you, but let's test out the maxim I stated above. What would it take to change your mind regarding the safety of the vaccines?

 

[jimmyd]

The monoclonal antibodies pulled only had Emergency Use authorization. Pfizer vaccine is Fully Approved.

You are such a dumbfuck. Florida treatment sites are pulling authorized treatments away from their citizens.

But thanks for confirming you are an uneducated looser with a dead end job living with your mom and dad.

Where in the article did it say Florida was pulling authorized treatments? Thanks for confirming the arguments you made about “71,000 treatments” and “closing sites” are nonsense. So moronic.

Moderna and J&J don’t work on Omicron either, why aren’t their authorizations pulled. The Pfizer vaccine being “authorized” still doesn’t negate the idiotic push for boosters, when we know it doesn’t work. Authorized or not, that’s medical malpractice to administer a drug that doesn’t work.

You’ll never beat me at this. You’re wrong on everything.

Oh, and we all can’t have a suite at CAMH, like you, and run www.hornet.com (another own goal).


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[mikesmithndp]

Bullshit. That is not scientific.

What is scientific according to your highly scientific mind. Idiot

 

[Hornet]

You're an idiot if you think you can make a safe vaccine in less than a year.

Again, show me your educational credentials to back up that statement. Our are you just going to parrot the pushers of conspiracy theories trying to sell you vitamins or get your donations and subscription money?

 

[Hornet]

I know it's probably unrealistically hopeful of me to try to engage you, but let's test out the maxim I stated above. What would it take to change your mind regarding the safety of the vaccines?

Obviously it’s not the billions of administered doses so far without mass (tens of millions or more) adverse reactions or deaths.

 

[Hornet]

Where in the article did it say Florida was pulling authorized treatments? Thanks for confirming the arguments you made about “71,000 treatments” and “closing sites” are nonsense. So moronic.

Moderna and J&J don’t work on Omicron either, why aren’t their authorizations pulled. The Pfizer vaccine being “authorized” still doesn’t negate the idiotic push for boosters, when we know it doesn’t work. Authorized or not, that’s medical malpractice to administer a drug that doesn’t work.

You’ll never beat me at this. You’re wrong on everything.

Oh, and we all can’t have a suite at CAMH, like you, and run www.hornet.com (another own goal).


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Room 101 was setup just for you and your circle jerk buddies.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

I know it's probably unrealistically hopeful of me to try to engage you, but let's test out the maxim I stated above. What would it take to change your mind regarding the safety of the vaccines?

Vaccine does not work, placebo at best. Let me put sugar in your car and you try putting gas additives in your car to fix the problem. Tell me how it goes.

People are idiots. Have you heard of radithor? lol Radithor (ca. 1928)

 

[Deleted member 88306]

Again, show me your educational credentials to back up that statement. Our are you just going to parrot the pushers of conspiracy theories trying to sell you vitamins or get your donations and subscription money?

Do you have yours then?

 

[Deleted member 88306]

Do you have yours then? Maybe history is repeating itself?