Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

[Frank Underwood]

Indeed it has. As a Veterinary drug for treating worms in horses. In the correct dose, it is used in people to also treat parasitic diseases.

I think I'll disengage from this conversation. I learned long ago not to engage in conversations with people on the Internet, especially when it's clear that the other person is ill-informed. I'll just leave these two links for you and wish you well.

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

Using the Drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 can be dangerous and even lethal. The FDA has not approved the drug for that purpose.

www.fda.gov

2015 Nobel Prize for ivermectin intended for treatment of parasitic infections doesn’t prove its efficacy on COVID-19

Correction Sep. 23, 2021: paragraph one has been corrected to clarify that the drug Ivermectin was not awarded the Nobel Prize. Rather, the prize was awarded to two scientists for their discoveries involving the drug.

www.reuters.com

Good call bro, Jimmy is not someone you can have a conversation with. If you take it seriously you will get mad, and guess what is the one thing that trolls love the most? They love to piss you off, when they see you mad, it gives them joy.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Interesting video, specially the parts where they describe the type of insane things medieval people would do to be cured of the disease.

They literally would eat and drink both shit and piss; unironically people advocating gargling with bleach and using horse de-wormers is the modern equivalent.

If Jimmy lived in Medieval times he would be eating the shit, that is 100%. No, actually he would have died already. Alone with no wife or kids.

 

[Hornet]

Really? Big Tech deleted videos about covid. Their excuse is misinformation.

Learn to comprehend what you read.

People just do not disappear at the scale you are alluding to without it being noticed. “IF” there were mass deaths, everyone would know. In my personal life and professional life, I have hundreds of contacts. There has been only a couple of non very elderly people (not in their 90s) who have died and none of them were vaccine related. I’m not hearing my business contacts from other companies saying they are losing people left, right, and centre either.

There have been almost 10 Billion doses given and 4.5 Billion people fully vaccinated. On a percentage scale for it to be Mass deaths, the hundreds of millions of people would have had to die. Your Mass deaths do to vaccines is just not happening no matter how many videos you post. Those unfortunate souls are the exception, not the rule.

 

[Stoo]

Confirming what you said is ridiculous. People choose not to get the vaccine for many reasons. Also, where have you been the last 6 months? Both vaxxed and unvaxxed spread Covid. Not sure how getting vaccinated helps that.


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People do choose not to get vaccinated for many reasons, and the vast majority of them are stupid.

And yes, I agree, there is evidence that fully vaxed people can still spread the virus, however their viral load is much smaller. Consider two people with a method of squirting water on another person. One has a fire hose. The other has a squirt gun. But yes, both have the ability to get someone else wet. Regardless, if the person they spread it to is also vaccinated, that person will be just fine.

You're making my head explode. If you actually believe this shit you're posting, then I feel sorry for you. I hope you don't catch COVID and die. But Natural Selection is a bitch.

I'm muting now. Have a nice day,

 

[Hornet]

MASS dying and MASS formation psychosis both have the word mass in it, I sense a conspiracy!

Hey do you know who else is going to capitalize from the pandemic besides Doc Malone? Our buddy Matias! He is dropping a book in Dutch that will be translated to English soon. I am willing to bet it will be available at the same time as Robert's book to try and catch some wind from those sales.

Matias' theory literally describes what Robert Malone is doing to the American public. He is brainwashing the fuck out of the poor fragile minds and lending his image to any antivaxxer who will pay to hear him talk.

Catholics go to Sunday MASS so maybe it isn’t the Jews after all

 

[Frank Underwood]

Catholics go to Sunday MASS so maybe it isn’t the Jews after all

Oh my God! You are right! Brother Nathaniel on his website even said he believes the only solution to our society is a return of a Christian dominated society, kinda like we already experienced when the Catholic church would run Europe. The sheeps, that are convinced they are not sheep, are really just trying to get someone to tell them what to do and think. Too funny

 

[stripfan]

And yes, I agree, there is evidence that fully vaxed people can still spread the virus, however their viral load is much smaller.

The idea that the vaccinated have a much smaller viral load is nothing but a myth. This report from the Lancet, the most respected medical journal in the world, concludes there is no difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed.

DEFINE_ME

 

[sy barite]

The proof is in the pudding. He has shared data from all over the world. And most everything he’s said is true. I’ve been monitoring him for months.

Just so we’re clear, I’m talking about Alex Berenson.


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I haven't been following him, but the conclusions he's drawing in the piece you shared are extraordinary. The vaccines "don't work and should be taken off the market"? That in itself is an incomplete and irresponsible statement. If he'd qualified it by saying they're ineffective at limiting the spread of the infection, I'd understand...but every sign indicates the vaccines are quite effective minimizing serious cases.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

Look dude you didn't respond correctly to my comment. When someone tries to silence or debate with opposing views it makes you less credible.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

I haven't been following him, but the conclusions he's drawing in the piece you shared are extraordinary. The vaccines "don't work and should be taken off the market"? That in itself is an incomplete and irresponsible statement. If he'd qualified it by saying they're ineffective at limiting the spread of the infection, I'd understand...but every sign indicates the vaccines are quite effective minimizing serious cases.

That is misinformation. People are still dying while they already had the covid vaccine and the booster shot is worse not better.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Peter McCullough, another prominent antivaxxer did an interview with Joe Rogan. I encourage people to watch this video explaining how to spot misinformation and fake news. McCullough is mad that the government didn't fund his research into horse dewormer to treat COVID. In the interview he literally says "our president had it right, you could use bleach to cleanse the virus," and advises people to gargle with a diluted bleach and water solution.

If you gargle with bleach too much you may end up mentally compromised like JImmy. So just be careful if you decide to try it!

 

[Stoo]

Good call bro, Jimmy the Retard is not someone you can have a conversation with. Only use his stupidity for entertainment. If you take it seriously you will get mad, and guess what is the one thing that trolls love the most? They love to piss you off, when they see you mad, it gives them joy.

Yup he's on ignore now. I love a good Internet Troll but not when they're spreading information that is killing people, I have little patience. In my personal FB, I have a feature I call COVIDIOT of the Day. Generally, the featured person is (or more likely was) a COVID denier or antivaxxer that's now rotting in a hole in the ground. I'm fine with that, but what I am not fine with is when these are people that have a megaphone to spread their shit, and as a result, assist in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.

Bear in mind, that I work in scientific endeavours and I'm biologist by trade. Just as most things economic boil down to "supply and demand", most biological things boil down to Natural Selection. Mother Nature is currently doing a fine job of removing stupid people (and Republicans!) from the gene pool. As a biologist, I understand that over-population is the largest problem facing humanity. For decades, I've joked that the world would benefit from a good pandemic. With "only" 6 million deaths worldwide, COVID is falling short. We need to kill off about 2 - 3 billion people to make a real difference. However, it's a start, and it's always best to lose the stupid people.

Some of my colleges and I regularly engage in "What if..?" discussions. Here is a current one: What if no vaccines had been developed to fight COVID? How many would have died, and when would it end? Our best guess is that it may well have killed 100 million people, perhaps more. Still a long way shy of what we need. There is a reasonable chance we'll see another zootropic-based pandemic in our lifetimes. As populations become more and more congested (especially in Asia) and where people are obliged to eat unsafe food, it's inevitable. The development of mRNA vaccines is perhaps the greatest medical development in health care in a century, but it's not a huge stretch to imagine a viral disease that defies an effective vaccine development. Imagine if HIV spread in the same way COVID does. There's no cure for it, but it's relatively difficult to spread HIV as it requires direct mucous or blood contact. COVID spreads through atomization. Imagine walking past someone in your condo that is surrounded in an invisible cloud of HIV that you are almost guaranteed to catch.

Anyway, Jimmy is being ignored. I suspect he's vaccinated and trolling, but maybe he really is just fucking stupid as a sack of hammers.

 

[sy barite]

Peter McCullough, another prominent antivaxxer did an interview with Joe Rogan. I encourage people to watch this video explaining how to spot misinformation and fake news. McCullough is mad that the government didn't fund his research into horse dewormer to treat COVID. In the interview he literally says "our president had it right, you could use bleach to cleanse the virus," and advises people to gargle with a diluted bleach and water solution.

If you gargle with bleach too much you may end up mentally compromised like JImmy. So just be careful if you decide to try it!

I watched this video a few weeks ago, right after McCullough was on Rogan. Dr. Z seems quite credible and balanced. Let me point out that he does not wholly dismiss the things McCullough and Malone say. For another excellent discussion with this fellow, check out a recent Triggernometry podcast episode. He's fully pro vaccine and anti-restrictions, but more importantly (to me anyway), he qualifies and explains his opinions and is completely prepared to change them in the face of evidence.

By the way, gargling with diluted bleach is an accepted practice and has been recommended since before the election of Donald Trump.

 

[Stoo]

That is misinformation. People are still dying while they already had the covid vaccine and the booster shot is worse not better.

Another moronic comment. The people dying from COVID currently are overwhelmingly unvaccinated, or only partially vaccinated. Just stop, but yes, there are numerous cases of fully vaccinated people dying. Like handfulls. But not thousands, as is the case in unvaccinated. AND, there are even a few people that have died FROM the vaccine. Dude, I don't mind that you're stupid, but please try to keep it to yourself.

Ignoring you too.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

And where exactly is your proof (not your brainwashed opinion but actual proof) that the vaccine has not been properly tested? Please explain the scientific methods to properly test a vaccine that you can unequivocally prove were not performed to test the vaccine.

Brain washed? You are protecting. It takes longer to produce a safer car than the Covid vaccine.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Yup he's on ignore now. I love a good Internet Troll but not when they're spreading information that is killing people, I have little patience. In my personal FB, I have a feature I call COVIDIOT of the Day. Generally, the featured person is (or more likely was) a COVID denier or antivaxxer that's now rotting in a hole in the ground. I'm fine with that, but what I am not fine with is when these are people that have a megaphone to spread their shit, and as a result, assist in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.

Bear in mind, that I work in scientific endeavours and I'm biologist by trade. Just as most things economic boil down to "supply and demand", most biological things boil down to Natural Selection. Mother Nature is currently doing a fine job of removing stupid people (and Republicans!) from the gene pool. As a biologist, I understand that over-population is the largest problem facing humanity. For decades, I've joked that the world would benefit from a good pandemic. With "only" 6 million deaths worldwide, COVID is falling short. We need to kill off about 2 - 3 billion people to make a real difference. However, it's a start, and it's always best to lose the stupid people.

Some of my colleges and I regularly engage in "What if..?" discussions. Here is a current one: What if no vaccines had been developed to fight COVID? How many would have died, and when would it end? Our best guess is that it may well have killed 100 million people, perhaps more. Still a long way shy of what we need. There is a reasonable chance we'll see another zootropic-based pandemic in our lifetimes. As populations become more and more congested (especially in Asia) and where people are obliged to eat unsafe food, it's inevitable. The development of mRNA vaccines is perhaps the greatest medical development in health care in a century, but it's not a huge stretch to imagine a viral disease that defies an effective vaccine development. Imagine if HIV spread in the same was COVID does. There's no cure for it, but it's relatively difficult to spread HIV as it requires direct mucous or blood contact. COVID spreads through atomization. Imagine walking past someone in your condo that is surrounded in an invisible cloud of HIV that you are almost guaranteed to catch.

Anyway, Jimmy is being ignored. I suspect he's vaccinated and trolling, but maybe he really is just fucking stupid as a sack of hammers.

You are 100% correct! Jimmy zealously guards details about his "infection" because if pressed for details he knows that his stories would crumble. He claims he had COVID by the way, and in a typical antivax fashion, he claimed it was "just like a cold." You know that someone who was actually sick with COVID would not be dismissive of it. He is just flexing trying to be cool in front of the other Stooges.

Jimmy has also claimed that both his parents are vaccinated, but he is not. To me, this has never made sense. Why if he is so convinced that the vaccine kills, would he then allow his parents to risk their lives? I conclude he doesn't love his parents, or he is full of shit and he is already triple vaxxed like his parents.

I can't really agree entirely with the "great cleansing" scenario you present, although I am sure that the world could benefit from a few less humans. I think that education is the problem. If science was not an "elective" then it wouldn't be so hard to educate the public on public health matters; or people wouldn't seek answers from pseudo science.

 

[stripfan]

Yup he's on ignore now. I love a good Internet Troll but not when they're spreading information that is killing people, I have little patience. In my personal FB, I have a feature I call COVIDIOT of the Day. Generally, the featured person is (or more likely was) a COVID denier or antivaxxer that's now rotting in a hole in the ground. I'm fine with that, but what I am not fine with is when these are people that have a megaphone to spread their shit, and as a result, assist in the deaths of hundreds or thousands of people.

Bear in mind, that I work in scientific endeavours and I'm biologist by trade. Just as most things economic boil down to "supply and demand", most biological things boil down to Natural Selection. Mother Nature is currently doing a fine job of removing stupid people (and Republicans!) from the gene pool. As a biologist, I understand that over-population is the largest problem facing humanity. For decades, I've joked that the world would benefit from a good pandemic. With "only" 6 million deaths worldwide, COVID is falling short. We need to kill off about 2 - 3 billion people to make a real difference. However, it's a start, and it's always best to lose the stupid people.

Some of my colleges and I regularly engage in "What if..?" discussions. Here is a current one: What if no vaccines had been developed to fight COVID? How many would have died, and when would it end? Our best guess is that it may well have killed 100 million people, perhaps more. Still a long way shy of what we need. There is a reasonable chance we'll see another zootropic-based pandemic in our lifetimes. As populations become more and more congested (especially in Asia) and where people are obliged to eat unsafe food, it's inevitable. The development of mRNA vaccines is perhaps the greatest medical development in health care in a century, but it's not a huge stretch to imagine a viral disease that defies an effective vaccine development. Imagine if HIV spread in the same was COVID does. There's no cure for it, but it's relatively difficult to spread HIV as it requires direct mucous or blood contact. COVID spreads through atomization. Imagine walking past someone in your condo that is surrounded in an invisible cloud of HIV that you are almost guaranteed to catch.

Anyway, Jimmy is being ignored. I suspect he's vaccinated and trolling, but maybe he really is just fucking stupid as a sack of hammers.

Covid was a weaponized virus released from a lab. It didn't happen naturally at all.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

Another moronic comment. The people dying from COVID currently are overwhelmingly unvaccinated, or only partially vaccinated. Just stop, but yes, there are numerous cases of fully vaccinated people dying. Like handfulls. But not thousands, as is the case in unvaccinated. AND, there are even a few people that have died FROM the vaccine. Dude, I don't mind that you're stupid, but please try to keep it to yourself.

Ignoring you too.

You are more likely to get strike by lightening than dying of covid.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Brain washed? You are protecting. It takes longer to produce a safer car than the Covid vaccine.

Your views on this topic are so varied, sometimes you deny the virus exists, sometimes you claim that the vaccine needs more research. If there is no virus, how can there be a vaccine? Organize your thoughts man. I think you are a very impressionable person, you are addicted to drama and conspiracy. That is the reason I know that you are a flat earther.

 

[Stoo]

Covid was a weaponized virus released from a lab. It didn't happen naturally at all.

Definitely.