Change "routine" on frequent client visits?

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For those of you who have regulars that come weekly or biweekly, do you often change your massage "routine" to mix it up for them or do you find they like consistent treatments? I'm mostly speaking of relaxation massage, not injury-specific work.

Thanks!
 


I have a medical doctor that I do a relaxation massage for every week. (Although honestly, she's told me she's had less problems with her back since we've been working together, and that's been just over 5 years.)
It's sort of funny, but every once in awhile I get the "itch" to change it, but she likes it to be pretty much the same. LOL
I do every once in awhile get to add a new stroke or something... but the core of the massage has to be the same. *shrug* That being said though, she's always the one I try out new products (oils etc) on and she's the one who gets to "open" my new CDs. :lol:
She's the only weekly client I have... but I've noticed that in the past, clients do find a certain amount of "comfort" in knowing the "routine." But I'd rather offer them the chance to try something new... than to have them go to someone else, if they're getting bored! LOL
IMHO, the best person to ask is the client!
 


For regulars with relaxation work, I get the comment, "I like coming here because you always seem to do something different each time".

Now, I don't consiously do this, but I do try to listen to thier body and work on what needs more work, or intensify what may need some concentration. I have a general "way" I do relaxation work, but sometimes I start them face up, sometimes face down (I usually ask what they prefer). And, I'll usually get a feel by what they say that day and tell them which part I am going to be spending some extra time on for the session. "I think I am going to spend some extra time on your feet today -- maybe as much as ten minutes more. We'll see."

Does this help?
 


I don't have a set routine, for me no two clients or treatments are ever the same. The only thing that is generally specific to each treatment is that they start face down, and thats only because of the way I have the table setup.

When treating the client I follow my Hara (instint / intuition) as to the work that is required by the client. I have given treatments where afterwards I realise I complete forgot about some strokes I could have done, other times I will use a stroke I haven't used for a long time that I had completely forgotten about.

I feel each treatment is unique, and the strokes used and work done must also be unique to that session. Essentially, go with the flow and don't worry about missing something out or addinging something new.

Personally, as a client I really don't like having what i call a massage by numbers.

Mat xxx
 


Ummm... considering I have no routine, it's a pretty mixed bag. I'm with fozzyo, I go with the intuition. There are a couple things that I do fairly consistently with regulars and anyone else who's one the table (occipital releases fascinate me), but I would be in deep kim chi if a client came in asking for the same massage they had last time :oops: I get a lot of positive comments that my work isn't the same every time too Texas-gal.

Maire
 


I have a general "way" I do relaxation work, but sometimes I start them face up, sometimes face down (I usually ask what they prefer). And, I'll usually get a feel by what they say that day and tell them which part I am going to be spending some extra time on for the session. "I think I am going to spend some extra time on your feet today -- maybe as much as ten minutes more. We'll see."

Sounds similar to me. I just go with what I feel they need at that given appointment.
I like to ask if they are looking for all over coverage or if they want me to spend extra time on areas that I/they feel need it. I rarely ever do a "relaxation massage".
 


I like to ask if they are looking for all over coverage or if they want me to spend extra time on areas that I/they feel need it. I rarely ever do a "relaxation massage".

I'm just putting together a new page for my website that you guys may find interesting ... 6 Reasons for Massage. Its a great tool to use when someone just asks for "a relaxation massage" or doesn't really know what they want. I have the six reasons printed on a sheet, with a picture of a massage stroke next to each one. Before each treatment I ask the client to have a look at it and say which one fits with what they wish to feel at the end of the treatment. Each time there is always one definate answer and it really helps to understand what they want from the treatment.

They six reasons are:

Connect - Slow down, breath, feel the touch, become aware
Energise - Feel your body vibrate with new energy
Nourish - Drink in the luxury of exquisite touch
Release - Leg your muscles be soft and loose, stretch out, walk tall and be free
Detox / Renew - Be still, listen and replenish your spirit and energy
Transform - Allow the touch to help you become what you were born to be.

Mat xxx
 


When I was in school I did a lot of the same stuff in my relaxation massages. I think I felt insecure & stuck with what I was used to- and my school didn't have a good swedish program, so I wasn't too confident in my swedish massages. My deep tissue massages were a lot more interesting.

Now that I'm out of school I feel more freedom & a lot more confidence to really mix it up & experiment more. I've gotten a really good swedish massage & now know what my clients are expecting. I'm a lot more comfortable doing a relaxation massage.

The steps may be similar (start prone etc) but I mix up the strokes & enjoy it a lot more.
 


I do CARE charting, so I ask my clients what's going on for them today, even for relaxation clients. Usually *something* calls out for more attention, or they'll comment on something they really liked last time or an area they felt didn't get enough work.

Of course, there can be great value in a routine when used properly... at some point the routine goes away and you don't have to think. At that point, the risk is that you're up in your head or worse not even "in the room"... but the reward, if you can stay present, is getting to connect more deeply with the client each time, to evolve the relationship rather than your moves.

If you're doing a routine, and it seems to be "the same" every time, you're not paying enough attention.


ladybug, I'm with you. What's with schools who skimp on the Swedish?

I've found trading with other bodyworkers to be *invaluable*. When I first started practicing, I was worried because it didn't seem like I was "changing", my sessions weren't "different" than at school, and I wondered how I was ever supposed to improve without finding money for continuing ed.

Trading was my answer :-)


Mat, I love your six reasons! I may use them or something similar.
 


Yes I do ask about specific complaints etc. I guess my question was more geared towards whether you find clients want similar "routines/experience" or do people seem open to trying new things. I think its more about client expectation of their experience, like Maestra's physician-client example.

:wink:
 


I'm in a spa & trying to get my own clients on the side. The spa clients wouldn't know the difference if I did the same routine everytime, because they are mostly one time customers. It remains to be seen when I have my own clientele.

And so far everytime I've gotten a massage not only does it feel great & helps me physically but I learn something from it & the massages I give improve. I LOVE THAT!
 


*heh* I'm thinking the universe has a perverse sense of humor. Shortly after I posted "what routine?" on this thread, a regular client who I've been working with weekly for nearly a year comes in and says.... "The massage you gave me last week was the best ever, can you do that again?"

One day I will learn to be more careful about what I put out there. Sheesh. I rather doubt it was exactly the same, but I did recall that some sacral based rocking seemed to strike a cord with her and she was pleased when she left.

Maire
 


EgoMagickian said:
ladybug, I'm with you. What's with schools who skimp on the Swedish?

Mat, I love your six reasons! I may use them or something similar.

What's with schools only teaching Swedish...like mine...

I agree, Mat, love your work! mk
 


I recalled that there's been an article in one of the trade magazines on CARE charting and surprisingly have found a link to an article about it online!

http://www.massageandbodywork.com/Articles/AprilMay2003/CAREnotes.html

HTH T-G!

I suppose a link to the article could be kept with links regarding SOAP notes. *Shrug*
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Young Helen, Yoga Lucy, New Girl Eva, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญHelen and Lucy๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Viva โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    ew girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธXuka Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available, Today's special recommendation ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil massage,got a lot experience,๐Ÿ˜very nice good looking sunny,amazing massage really relive your stress,give you comfortable time๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนmust try
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  41. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin/Perky Ass/Sweet, Super Open-Minded bbbj cim cof rim, excellent service, also strong massage. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, JENNY, KELLY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. TIFFANY
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Angel ๐Ÿ’• Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can wors
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucy ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Cherry , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anika ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธIsabellaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Vicky 30โ€™s with curve body and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, young sexy slime Sophia 30โ€™s and Cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ANGEL, SARIKA, SABHA, AMANDA, MIMI, ASHA, ANGELINA, KIRAN, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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