Client had no feedback on pressure

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You could ask your other clients how they are experiencing your pressure. As you're elbowing, ask " is this light or deep pressure?" Compare what they say to how you perceived it.
 
Thanks guys for all your feedback.

unknownpleasures said:
I have about 9 months experience so maybe that could be the problem. I've had alot of clients since school and I practice alot on my friends so i can get better and i have dvds of deep tissue and rolfing.

I will talk to the massage therapist that works on this women and try to get some advice.he is a tall muscular guy so i'm thinking it might my pressure.


How many people do you work with? Is it possible to ask the male therapist that normally works on her and another therapist to get together for 20-30 minutes, an hour, two hours (whatever they can do) and help you with pressure / body mechanics. Like a mini tutorial. If he isn't willing to do it for free, is it worth it to you to pay him $50-$70 for an hour of his time? Then you could have a friend come in and on the table part of time while this other therapist works with you.
If he isn't willing to do it at all, find someone else in your area who is known for deep work and call her/him. I know that if another therapist called me for some tutor time, I'd be flattered and would help them out for a reduced fee.

Regarding the muscular part ....
I am 6' and weigh around 160lbs. In other words, tall and thin. I used to lift weights occasionally to stay toned - not to build. I have never been "muscular". Yet, my deep work is very deep. It has a lot more to do with mechanics than you may think. When I need to do a deep session, one of the first things I do is lower my table a notch. Then throughout the session I am constantly adjusting my body to get the best alignment so that the pressure comes up from the floor through my body to the client. If I am efforting, my mechanics are off and I adjust.

Are you really comfortable with your body mechanics?
Is your table height good for you?
Are you using too much oil?


unknownpleasures said:
I 've felt happy that i got a response from her and that i hit the spot but it took all of my power and energy to help this woman.

Lastly, DO NOT hurt yourself working with clients like this. Be careful with your thumbs, and be careful with your body. Some clients may take a bit more. But you should never feel drained and wiped out after a session. These can be the sessions where you start 'forcing' and possibly injure yourself. At this early seforum.xxxe in your career, if you can't comfortably give this kind of pressure, either don't take these clients (if you have that option where you work) or be up front with them about doing the best you can without hurting yourself. Over time, with experience this may change for you and some day these sessions will not be such an effort for you. Until then, please be careful.

I hope that helps a bit more.
Thanks for a great conversation!
Brian


Edited my own post to fix bad code. cstbrian
 


I agree with Brian, be careful, be good to yourself, and don't kill yourself just because you need the money. You could always study A-shiatsu (hang on bar from cieling, walk on their back) to work on her. I always wanted to try that, but I'm 185, 5'11" , and not oriental, so this would be kinda absurd. :)

bear with me here, I'm kinda playing here:
I find the most intense deep specific triggerpoint rhomboid pressure COULD be acheived by putting her supine and put a jack nobber under her rhomboid. You could have her lie supine on a heat pack first while you work her legs for 10 mins. Then do the above jack nobber thing.

Want more excruciating pressure? Fine. Therapist gently, gradually pushes shoulder into table/ jacknobber (Do not dislocate shoulder). Do ROM with her arms on the jacknobber. target supra/infraspinatus also.

I guarantee this will have her screaming in joyous agonizing pain, like a 12. I've done this with a couple super deep-cravers, and the've gone right to the edge, after 10 mins, "OK that's enough". Pant, sigh. OMG.

Finish with some nice fluffy effleurage. :) This is surprisingly easy on your body to do, BTW. It's "active release" work, just with a tool. I do this on myself, my shouder is trashed from 15 years of archery, salt water flyfishing etc. I have yet to find an LMT who can produce anywhere near the specific pressure that doing the above creates.


Just make sure you have good insurance, and check what modalities your plan covers. This is really closer to PT work than MT, so beware.

Edit note: I just checked my insurance, and it says you can't use tools or implements. I don't use tools (ie massage stones) anymore anyway.

I don't think you would be held liable if you suggested say, a body rolling class or use of a tennis ball, jacknobber, etc. hot stone, etc. to them to use on their own in between sessions. If a client were to actually get motivated enough to learn how to release their own TP's, that would help your session greatly. I've tried suggesting this to quite a few people, but they never seem to bother to follow through.

It can be tough sometimes to try to "fix their wreckage" with a "9-11" session. Please keep in mind I am a male, and have strong arms and hands, but I have had 125 lb. women clients test my TP skills to the max. You are not alone. So don't sweat this.

Pls. note: I am not of the "No pain no gain" rolfing etc. school. I believe in being patient, sinking in slowly (like cornstarch etc.) But there have been some who have been beyond my skill level. Those have been reffered out. Again, It's not worth killing yourself over.

Weight lifters are a tough bunch. But definitely watch using fingers or hands on those rock hard areas, instant blow-out. If you can't ultimately deliver the bone-crushing depth she craves, remember it's her stuff, not yours. Just go get another client, and you'll quickly forget about all this.
There's only so much you can do. I don't think she'll be critical of you for just not being strong enough. That would not be fair IMO.
 


catskillcrawler said:
You could always study A-shiatsu (hang on bar from cieling, walk on their back) to work on her. I always wanted to try that, but I'm 185, 5'11" , and not oriental, so this would be kinda absurd. :)
Asian modalities are fabulous, even for those who aren't Asian. :) Your ethnicity/race and size has nothing to do with ability to learn a modality and become a practitioner. I mean, you aren't a Swedish female with blonde hair, but does that mean you can't do Swedish work?
 


One small bit of advice about working deep pressure ---- GO SLOWER! It has been my personal experience with "crush me with your power" clients that the slower I go with a fairly sustained pressure the more it is perceived to be very deep, bone crushing, nad mashing powerful pressure by the client.

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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower .body scrub ๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty๐Ÿ˜‹ open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  39. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty Singapore ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white cream skin, pretty face, can bbbj cim dfk 69 cof sf2, available all services, excellent treatment. KITTY is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  41. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  42. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (12PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (2PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  45. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: :wonderspa: โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10,Ensuit shower available ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful young Jessica sexy body,deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone๐Ÿ…sexy face sunny is very good looking,slim body ,nice body slide sweet sensual touch ๐ŸŒนbeautiful long hair younge new lily Q,friendly,amazing massage,happy the end,really popular,must tryโค๏ธ
  46. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  47. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธNadia๐ŸŒธAnna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKelly๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
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