Complementary and Natural Healthcare Council launch

I think the FHT alone has almost 20,000 complementary therapy members, and I think CThA has half that number at least, maybe more, so no, definitely not including CAM practitioners in the figures I quoted (I think there are 7,000).

Out of the members im sure it is a majority, but I wouldnt know the exact figure. We only know if someone is eligible or not, when they apply.
 
This is the big issue. What are the PA's doing to push the CNHC. Why aren't they contacting or even sending out a blanket emails to their Sports Therapies members really promoting the CNHC?

Remember that every year, the SST get hundreds of Students signing up to them. Not all make it, but I would think that a significant number go onto full membership. That happens every year. It has been highly conspicuous that the SST have not really made any statements apart from their initial one regarding voluntary registration. I suspect this is because they don't see the SRTC or vol regs as much of a threat?

At the moment the SST hold all the cards, FA, RFU etc recognition, Universities and lots of very high profile people involved in the Sports Medicine world.

I think that the PA's of the SRTC need to pull their weight a bit more and get their members applying to the CNHC. AND, like it or not the SRTC needs to start getting stuck into the Uni students. With out them and the clout and sheer numbers that they bring to the table, I think the SRTC will be dead in the water. That is the harsh reality of it. The SRTC needs to be offering these students (who can ultimately win the battle for them) something that the SST cannot. If the SRTC starts winning them over then it will force the SST to sit at the table with them.
 
Hi Aspire,
if you have a surefire way of getting contact with the uni students then let me know

As for recognition, I wouldnt believe the hype...ive worked in the sports therapy industry for long enough to know what is hype and what is fact, and there is a lot of clever marketing and spin done......

I honestly think you are making too big an issue of the universities, look on the sports therapy forums, and you will see how successful people are. Ive said many times on here, there are more diplomates working in top level sports than uni grads, because most of them have the benefit of experience, which is was is required, and the uni courses have been here for less than 10 years.

Most of the STs that I know are very happy with their work, their earnings and their success, and most of them have no interest in working in professional sport.
 
Hi ST,

As for recognition, I wouldnt believe the hype...ive worked in the sports therapy industry for long enough to know what is hype and what is fact, and there is a lot of clever marketing and spin done......

I am just going on the calibre and experience of speakers that the SST have at their annual conference. Another example is on the England RFU site they recommend to clubs that if they take a sports therapist on their staff that they are Graduate members of the SST.

I honestly think you are making too big an issue of the universities, look on the sports therapy forums, and you will see how successful people are. Ive said many times on here, there are more diplomates working in top level sports than uni grads, because most of them have the benefit of experience, which is was is required, and the uni courses have been here for less than 10 years.

I have to disagree on this even though I know you have been in the business for a long time. I am sure that there are lots of Sports Massage Practitioners working in elite sports and in team sports. However I would like to know how many top sports men and women and teams employ diplomate sports therapists. My research has indicated that the are mostly Chartered Sports Physiotherapists or Graduate Sports Therapists

if you have a surefire way of getting contact with the uni students then let me know

I would probably approach the course leaders to get a feel for opinions, there maybe a lot of discontent with the way things are progressing (or not) with Stat regs. Sure they will have ties to the SST and you will get the door slammed in the face but you will always find at least a couple of allies.

Organise an event directed at the students. They are probably getting all their information at the moment about the SRTC and CNHC from very biased and negative sources. Why not give them the opportunity to find out first hand and let them know that there is an alternative. Get industry suppliers along maybe a few freebies thrown in. If you cant advertise through the ST departments then do it through the student unions, face book, twitter. Just got to find a way in.
 
im not being flippant, just dont wholly agree with your first two points, and its good that you actually take an interest.

If you do belong to a PA, and any at that, you should contact them with ideas, they want people to get involved. At the end of the day that is partly what you pay your membership fees for.
 
Dan,
you spend so much time telling us we are not doing our job properly, remember this, we work full time in the industry, we do the council work voluntarily. I have a large family and 2 businesses to run. Why dont you spend some of the time spent researching doing something positive and send your CV to SRTC and apply for a role. you could start by contacting all the sporting bodies and asking them why they are so determined to have SST graduates.
I can tell you for a fact that to work in RFU it is a minimum of PHysio degree, the FA have been a closed shop for decades running their own injury management course at level 3 at Lilleshall which you cant do until you have their level 1 and 2 but they dont now run them at local FA level due to funding issues. First4sport run a lot of their courses now
We cannot publish everything we are doing, there is lots happening behind the scenes. you can be part of it if you want .... just ask
 
Reading the paragraph above...what is the point?

Gary I wish you and Richard all the best in progressing the profession.
 
exactly, you want the work but not willing to put any effort in to get it.
these are the things we are addressing, just because we dont publish everything we do, you seem to think we sit around twiddling thumbs.
 
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its good to see that what has turned into a controversial subject is continuing to get government support, and CAM is progressing as something that is becoming more recognised.

Here is a press release from the Department of Health

โ€œOver the last two years the CNHC has clearly done a lot to set standards for a range of complementary healthcare disciplines and the Department welcomes its continued good work. The CNHC is sponsored by the Department and we recommend that where people are looking for complementary healthcare practitioners, they use someone who is CNHC-registered.โ€ (Department of Health, January 2011)
 
The January press release doesn't get a mention on the DOH website - yet - has it been released to selected addressees ahead of posting on their site? The last mention of CNHC was in October.
 
I recieved mine too from CNHC, pleased to see that the new government support this.
 
I got mine also, pleased with the level of support and progress but I believe it is not important what I think or do as there will always be those on here who will be happy to belittle the work CNHC do and choose not to register.
horses for courses
 
Started the process of joining CNHC today...

Am joining FHT and then will apply for GNHC once that has all gone through..
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to tryโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800 ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  41. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  44. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  47. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla & Vivian are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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