Costochondritis question

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Hi everyone,

I am fairly new to massage therapy graduated in Dec 2007, so have not been doing it very long. A client called me that has Costochondritis from an accident she had two years ago from the air bag. She said it's in her ribs and sternum, upon doing research here is what the overview said of this condition....Costochondritis is an inflammation of the junctions where the upper ribs join with the cartilage that holds them to the breastbone or sternum. The condition causes localized chest pain that you can reproduce by pushing on the cartilage in the front of your ribcage. Costochondritis is a relatively harmless condition and usually goes away without treatment. The cause is usually unknown.....she also stated that she has severe lower back pain, I was wondering how would you experienced Massage Therapist approach this, what can I do to help her. Thank you.

Ruthann
 


From any type of auto accident there is going to be some form of whiplash whether front to back, side to side, etc. That will need to be addressed. In my experience working with folks who have had auto accidents w/ and w/o air bag deployment, one of the biggest factors to relieving their symptoms was to work on relieving the whiplash factors [whether or not they've been diagnosed w/ it.] That means releasing fascial tissues from the occiput to the sacrum, working with the entire trapezius muscle and checking to be sure the anterior chest wall muscles are relaxed and not in spasm as well.

Hope that helps you a bit.
 


What Anastasia said is all good. Also, you often need to slowly and gently work the sternum and ribs, compressing and releasing them into the direction of the restriction. Most of the localized pain and tightness from the original conditio can be fairly easily resolved this way.
 


WaltFritz said:
What Anastasia said is all good. Also, you often need to slowly and gently work the sternum and ribs, compressing and releasing them into the direction of the restriction. Most of the localized pain and tightness from the original conditio can be fairly easily resolved this way.

My experiences have been completely different, and I disagree with your suggestion regarding "often" using compression as a means to "resolve" the condition, as each client has his/own particular experience with their condition. I have a client with intermittently acute costochondritis, and when it's in flare-up mode, even the most gentle non-invasive touch has reacted in him recoiling in pain. He may be an extreme case, but, IMO, it is always better to be safe than sorry. Perhaps, just perhaps, when the condition is not active, I could see attempting very very very gentle work to that area...but my experience with him is that any level of touch is aggravating.
 


Of course if your touch is too much you back off or even wait. For the general population who suffers from this condition, gentle but sustained pressure, when tolerated, is quite helpful.
 


WaltFritz said:
Maybe you need to take a different look at your touch, if when they are not flared it still is aggravating to them. Perhaps your pressure is too extreme? Trying to generalize treatment suggestions on a forum site is difficult at best. Of course if your touch is too much you back off or even wait. But for the general population who suffers from this condition, gentle but sustained pressure, when tolerated, is quite helpful.


Mr. Fritz, perhaps you ought to reread my post, and perhaps then you will note that I refer to approaching this client with an EXTREMELY GENTLE touch. This I mentioned in contrast to your statement regarding "always" using repeated compressions on the ribcage area, which I disagree with. Each client is different, and no singular treatment plan will suit everyone.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "trying to generalize treatment suggestions on a forum site is difficult at best." As such, when posting on a forum, it often is best for one to respect the experiences shared by other Massage Therapists on this board.
 
Chondroitin sulfate...

Hi there. You might wanna consider recommending chondroitin sulfate for your client. Chondroitin sulfate comes from the bovine trachea and is much safer and more effective than gloucosamine sulfate. It aids in cartilage repair and is a good anti-inflammatory. Just make sure your client isn't on any blood thinners or has allergies to sulfer. Everyone hears about gloucosamine sulfate but you have to be careful about where it comes from. If the source is either India or China, beware. It will contain high amounts of lead and tin and cadmium. Seven tenths of the rivers in China presently do not harbour any life. Gloucosamine comes from sea life crustacean shells so you see my point.

Hope this info is helpful to you.
 


From any type of auto accident there is going to be some form of whiplash whether front to back, side to side, etc. That will need to be addressed. In my experience working with folks who have had auto accidents w/ and w/o air bag deployment, one of the biggest factors to relieving their symptoms was to work on relieving the whiplash factors [whether or not they've been diagnosed w/ it.] That means releasing fascial tissues from the occiput to the sacrum, working with the entire trapezius muscle and checking to be sure the anterior chest wall muscles are relaxed and not in spasm as well.
Anastastia is right on with that, On top of releasing fascia around the spine and rib cage you could add some pectoral work to aid in your cl's healing. Pin and stretching the pec minor would probably do wonders for helping her take deeper breathes, thus stretching our her diagram and rib cage, and striping over the pec major could help release her sternum as well as help her shoulders roll back and balance out her spine and chest.
 
Chondroitin sulfate...

Ratfink said:
Hi there. You might wanna consider recommending chondroitin sulfate for your client. Chondroitin sulfate comes from the bovine trachea and is much safer and more effective than gloucosamine sulfate. It aids in cartilage repair and is a good anti-inflammatory. Just make sure your client isn't on any blood thinners or has allergies to sulfer. Everyone hears about gloucosamine sulfate but you have to be careful about where it comes from. If the source is either India or China, beware. It will contain high amounts of lead and tin and cadmium. Seven tenths of the rivers in China presently do not harbour any life. Gloucosamine comes from sea life crustacean shells so you see my point.

Hope this info is helpful to you.

This is outside our scope of practice, and should be avoided. We have no ability to effectively assess how a supplement may work for a client, let alone how that supplement may be affected by (or interact with) the client's diet, medications, or other supplements they may already be taking.

If you think a client may benefit from some form of nutritional supplementation or dietary change, refer them to the appropriate professional. Do NOT start recommending specific products for ingestion.
 
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    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSamy๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธPriya๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅGood news for all the west end people in Etobicoke Mississauga Milton and Brampton!!!๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ˜˜The famous superstar Cambodian Princess Suki from Annie Spa is now working at Jennyโ€™s Spa in Etobicoke starting this Tuesday May 20th with Tina & Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE)
  37. 89moonstar&MoonMoon:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish Latin white girl and 22ys Colombia girl today &&Bradford location 6477129688
  38. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ100 hh all in๐Ÿ’ฐ๐Ÿ’ฐ โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  39. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : LINA (12pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups, brown skin, round tight big butt, cute baby face, great services. LUCKY (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin
  40. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25โ€™s sexy body open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young cute Taiwanese Victoria slime open mind 25โ€™s and nice GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, MALIYA, MONICA, SASHA, BELA, AMANDA, PREETI, ANGELINA, SABHA, MONIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience.
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services.
  45. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga ViVi Sarah and Kiki work. They are young, sexy and cute and they give very good massage. Sarah is 23 years old and still a student. She only works for one day.
  46. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  47. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Aiko She is a gorgeous model type Mixed Chinese/Japanese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  48. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Radika and beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  49. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Sexy Faye, RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS ONLY $70 ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHelen๐Ÿฌ
  50. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
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