Chat Derek Chauvin Guilty! Fuck yes!

Unfortunately, if it wasnโ€™t him, it wouldโ€™ve been someone else. The Democrats were waiting.


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Goes to show you that only certain black lives matter. Countless black cops, firefighters and business owners have lost their lives no thanks to the subhuman, uncivilized, uneducated, dipshit rioters/looters. Where were their 5 funerals, golden caskets and $27M? I guess entrepreneurial, tax-paying, upstanding Black citizens don't exist in the media's alternate universe! They're the wrong kind of Black people. They ruin the narrative. All the glory and adulation must be reserved for assholes who put guns in pregnant women's bellies and hand out counterfeit bills. Martin Luther Floyd indeed!
 
Goes to show you that only certain black lives matter. Countless black cops, firefighters and business owners have lost their lives no thanks to the subhuman, uncivilized, uneducated, dipshit rioters/looters. Where were their 5 funerals, golden caskets and $27M? I guess entrepreneurial, tax-paying, upstanding Black citizens don't exist in the media's alternate universe! They're the wrong kind of Black people. They ruin the narrative. All the glory and adulation must be reserved for assholes who put guns in pregnant women's bellies and hand out counterfeit bills. Martin Luther Floyd indeed!


I love when the brother said, "if we could only have George back, we wouldn't want the 27 million". That fucker deserves an academy award.
 
I love when the brother said, "if we could only have George back, we wouldn't want the 27 million". That fucker deserves an academy award.

All he needed was a statuette to go along with his custom suit and fancy shoes that he would've never had without his brother's death. What a phony prick!
 


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Brandon Tatum is the man! An independent thinking, successful, well-spoken Black man whose existence Woke America denies because he does not stick to "the script". Anyway, this video just shows again why only certain Black lives matter. Not only do you have to be a worthless thug like Martin Luther Floyd, you also have to be murdered by the right kind of guy (white man) or you'll end up being just another forgotten statistic like the kid in this video.
 
The title says it all. Hopefully America has turned a corner. We have to wait another six weeks for sentencing. For me as well as everyone else I hope this is the inflexion point, that things start getting better from here.
With a major player in blm on the jury, what other conclusion could there be. It will quietly go to retrial and he will be acquitted, prolly paid compensation as well. But I understand you got your legal degree here on massage planet.
 
I think what will inevitably become recognized, whether it takes 20 years or 200, is that these days facts don't really matter to the entities that control most of what forms the public consciousness. I know I sound like a broken record sometimes, but there are no news reporters anymore, just activists. And this is true for both sides of the political aisle, though because there are more of them, the left has an outsized effect.

BLM now enjoys pretty well unqualified support from most media, corporations and all levels of government, and the public is woefully ignorant of what the organization actually stands for and believes. It's not like information--based on uncontroversial statistics--is not widely available. People like Heather MacDonald and Tatum have been out there for years, they are voices in the wilderness. They get called racists and Uncle Tom for pointing out the painfully obvious. The searing irony is that it is black people who will again suffer for this, because it does not matter how many "equity" programs get put into place, whether you believe in them or not, facts determine reality.
 
With a major player in blm on the jury, what other conclusion could there be. It will quietly go to retrial and he will be acquitted, prolly paid compensation as well. But I understand you got your legal degree here on massage planet.
Whatever you think of BLM the evidence against Chauvin was overwhelming. If a member of the jury lied about his involvement with BLM during jury selection then that idiot needs to be held accountable and Chauvin deserves a retrial, which I think will lead to him being found guilty again. I do want Chauvin held accountable, but the right way.
 
Whatever you think of BLM the evidence against Chauvin was overwhelming. If a member of the jury lied about his involvement with BLM during jury selection then that idiot needs to be held accountable and Chauvin deserves a retrial, which I think will lead to him being found guilty again. I do want Chauvin held accountable, but the right way.


I agree the evidence for some kind of indifference to the life of Floyd was there, but for intentional murder? I don't see it.

For me, the most notable effect of this case is not the awareness it supposedly raised about the "plight" of black people today. What 's most frighteningly obvious is that the rule of law can so easily be subsumed and erased by popular opinion.
 
I agree the evidence for some kind of indifference to the life of Floyd was there, but for intentional murder? I don't see it.

For me, the most notable effect of this case is not the awareness it supposedly raised about the "plight" of black people today. What 's most frighteningly obvious is that the rule of law can so easily be subsumed and erased by popular opinion.
What to you think are appropriate consequences for Chauvin?
 

2nd degree murder does not have to be intentional murder. Subdivision 2 outlines that and that is what the prosecution made clear in their closing arguments.

The intent to murder does not have to be there. The intent to cause harm that then leads to death is Subdivision 2 of 2nd degree murder. Maximum sentence is 40 years
 
What to you think are appropriate consequences for Chauvin?

Well I'm out of my depth there. As an ordinary Joe, I'd say he deserves to lose ten years of his life for what he did.

From the evidence, it seems that he at the very least held a man down while he was exclaiming that he couldn't breathe, and any claim that he did so in case the guy went crazy is not credible given that there were plenty of other officers there and that Floyd was handcuffed. But, I'd be prepared to revise my "shoot from the hip" estimate either up or down based on evidence.
 

2nd degree murder does not have to be intentional murder. Subdivision 2 outlines that and that is what the prosecution made clear in their closing arguments.

The intent to murder does not have to be there. The intent to cause harm that then leads to death is Subdivision 2 of 2nd degree murder. Maximum sentence is 40 years

I was aware of that, but I confess that the nuance between 2nd degree murder without intent and the equivalent of manslaughter or whatever the charge is down there, is lost on me.

From what I understand, they found Chauvin guilty of murder because the action he took killed Floyd and he should have known that it would kill. The comparison I've heard is of someone firing a weapon into a crowd. They don't intend to kill a specific person, but they are responsible for any death that results from the indiscriminate shooting. I understand people will disagree with me, but to my mind interpreting Chauvin's actions as being comparable to shooting into a crowd is not right. Whether or not he used his training correctly, it is clear that officers are trained to restrain with a knee on a suspect's back or neck and we know that in very similar circumstances suspects have died with no resulting charges against police.

Again, any honest person should ask themselves if Floyd's race played a part in this. If you think it did, that should give you some misgivings about the trial.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Rose๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜An enchanting and skilled new Asian massage girl, known for her calming presence and soothing touch. With long, silky dark hair and delicate features, Rose exudes an aura of serenity and grace. As she gently guides you thro
  34. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Brazilian girl 23ys curvy body &new Asian girl today
  35. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,if you need to find a comfortable place to revive your body rexlaing come visit us.4beautiful attendants ,Today and tomorrow RMT available,sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking ๐Ÿ˜ปTina ,open mind she knows what do you want,๐Ÿ’„very friendly Lucy nice smiling very popular must try๐Ÿ˜ป๐Ÿท
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  37. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
  38. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North Yo
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  42. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธCamilaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Tuesday November 12, 2024, our attendants will be Ada โค๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book your favourite!
  49. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo has joined Angela & Noor for the evening ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  50. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒธSingapore ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ7-15 Karachi dr Markham
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