Did a tofft's test for myself

[Friendly Man]

Well maybe this lady is now offering extras so she can make bigger tips. Just another way to look at it so it fair to her?

 

[Albertaman]

I am on Bob's camp on this type of experience and I actually appreciate reading about it. IMHO, in many of the places that have the capacity to give legit receipts, the masseuses usually take a case by case approach to clients. I don't blame them. If there is rapport and some sense that their name/location won't show up on an open internet forum the next day, they may be more liberal. Also in cases of masseuses who have a husband or some other live in partner, but who want to enjoy occasional dalliances with select clients, they are more liable to do so with a client that they have confidence in (discretion wise). This is my experience and opinion, and I am not looking for arguments. The other factor that we don't appreciate is that amongst Asian providers, there are many who are still concerned about their indiscretions being broadcast into the Asian community...it's not that large. Some don't care. especially if they come in temporarily from other cities, but others do care.

 

[Old Fart]

I am on Bob's camp on this type of experience and I actually appreciate reading about it. IMHO, in many of the places that have the capacity to give legit receipts, the masseuses usually take a case by case approach to clients. I don't blame them. If there is rapport and some sense that their name/location won't show up on an open internet forum the next day, they may be more liberal. Also in cases of masseuses who have a husband or some other live in partner, but who want to enjoy occasional dalliances with select clients, they are more liable to do so with a client that they have confidence in (discretion wise). This is my experience and opinion, and I am not looking for arguments. The other factor that we don't appreciate is that amongst Asian providers, there are many who are still concerned about their indiscretions being broadcast into the Asian community...it's not that large. Some don't care. especially if they come in temporarily from other cities, but others do care.

Agreed, but then don't post, "Guess what I got from an RMT? But I'm not telling you who cuz then you'll go too pffffffffffft".

I agree with Bob that it is about the experience for some people and not just getting into someone's pants. I also find PM's annoying asking if she took her Lulu's off etc (and I had a few regarding Mandy) but lets be honest, what Bob says can happen ANYWHERE. I too have had ladies offer me services they do not advertise or offer to anyone else because I have seen them, they trust me, I am a gentleman and they like me and want to show me their appreciation. I have reviewed these ladies (in the past on another board) but I never said, Oh, she did ?????? for me pfffffffffft." These things happen but keep them to yourself I think because, for one thing, you will just get bombarded with requests for who it was. If I ever found out, I'd not ask upfront maybe later down the road and NEVER say, I read or was told that you do offer but not everyone will be like that, so appreciate it and keep it to yourself, as hard as it is sometimes lol.

When it comes to services offered, it's all about the comfort level and trust developed between two people..

 

[TBone]

Agreed, but then don't post, "Guess what I got from an RMT? But I'm not telling you who cuz then you'll go too pffffffffffft".

I agree with Bob that it is about the experience for some people and not just getting into someone's pants. I also find PM's annoying asking if she took her Lulu's off etc (and I had a few regarding Mandy) but lets be honest, what Bob says can happen ANYWHERE. I too have had ladies offer me services they do not advertise or offer to anyone else because I have seen them, they trust me, I am a gentleman and they like me and want to show me their appreciation. I have reviewed these ladies (in the past on another board) but I never said, Oh, she did ?????? for me pfffffffffft." These things happen but keep them to yourself I think because, for one thing, you will just get bombarded with requests for who it was. If I ever found out, I'd not ask upfront maybe later down the road and NEVER say, I read or was told that you do offer but not everyone will be like that, so appreciate it and keep it to yourself, as hard as it is sometimes lol.

When it comes to services offered, it's all about the comfort level and trust developed between two people..

Well said Old Fart.

I've been doing this a few years now and have come to realize that developing trust and chemistry with the RMT can often times open up a lot more options. I actually avoid the rub and tug shacks like La Bella, Sunny and others now, and only go to lesser known or ymmv places. I like building up trust and friendship and then when extras open up it's much more exciting and real than going to a place where the lady has probably jerked off 5 guys already that day. I've been lucky enough to get full service/gfe from a few rmt ladies now, one of them even told me after we were done she hadn't had sex in over 3 years. Most of theses ladies depend on discretion though, so when I see others reporting places as legit or self service only i just have to bite my tongue

 

[Guy2013]

Well said Old Fart.

I've been doing this a few years now and have come to realize that developing trust and chemistry with the RMT can often times open up a lot more options. I actually avoid the rub and tug shacks like La Bella, Sunny and others now, and only go to lesser known or ymmv places. I like building up trust and friendship and then when extras open up it's much more exciting and real than going to a place where the lady has probably jerked off 5 guys already that day. I've been lucky enough to get full service/gfe from a few rmt ladies now, one of them even told me after we were done she hadn't had sex in over 3 years. Most of theses ladies depend on discretion though, so when I see others reporting places as legit or self service only i just have to bite my tongue

I agree, I have a couple of places I go the are ligit, and I have been going for some time. One my regular RMT always gives me a happy ending, it took a while to get there but now she just incorporates it as part of the massage. The second place my regular RMT always tease, and finishes with a HE, in fact twice I have received BBBJ's, once with CIM. At both locations I invested many a visit, got to know the lady, and one thing led to another, both I have sworn secrecy to as neither want anyone to know about the "extra's" , i have no problem with that.

 

[dtoole]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts TBone. I'm still relatively new to this and would love to build relationships with RMTs. Except there are so many to choose from, limited time, and limited budget. I do like the research aspect, the "wondering", and also the building of relationship but I want to also increase the "rate of return on investment" (for lack of better phrase).

Hearing stories like yours, Bob, and LuckyDog encourages me to keep trying.

Personally, I'm not demanding anyone to name names but hearing what worked and what/where it definitely did not work is really helpful for me. I am more than happy to invest time and money but I also want to learn from others so that I can find (my own?) "special" RMT sooner.

 

[xy1000]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts TBone. I'm still relatively new to this and would love to build relationships with RMTs. Except there are so many to choose from, limited time, and limited budget. I do like the research aspect, the "wondering", and also the building of relationship but I want to also increase the "rate of return on investment" (for lack of better phrase).

Hearing stories like yours, Bob, and LuckyDog encourages me to keep trying.

Personally, I'm not demanding anyone to name names but hearing what worked and what/where it definitely did not work is really helpful for me. I am more than happy to invest time and money but I also want to learn from others so that I can find (my own?) "special" RMT sooner.

Look if you go to Sunny, dont worry you don't need to do to much workout to succeed with her, but with some other RMT yes you need, first learn from your own mistake, pay attention, be nice, be comfortable and make her to feel more comfortable with you, don't just look on first time when you see her to succeed, its all about you and your developing skills...be patient... when you succeed don't be jerk and turn to her your back...

 

[Old Fart]

Personally, I'm not demanding anyone to name names but hearing what worked and what/where it definitely did not work is really helpful for me. I am more than happy to invest time and money but I also want to learn from others so that I can find (my own?) "special" RMT sooner.

What works is be a gentleman, clean and many repeat visits. Unfortunately, many repeat visits is like re-inventing the wheel. You have to go for repeated visits to get an answer. I understand repeated visits to build trust waiting to get the desired level of service but many repeated visits just to get an answer (will she or won't she) is frustrating if you determine she won't. Also, what if one more juuuust might have been the one? Sharing is what the board is about or, as I said already, keep it to yourself.

 

[xy1000]

What works is be a gentleman, clean and many repeat visits. Unfortunately, many repeat visits is like re-inventing the wheel. You have to go for repeated visits to get an answer. I understand repeated visits to build trust waiting to get the desired level of service but many repeated visits just to get an answer (will she or won't she) is frustrating if you determine she won't. Also, what if one more juuuust might have been the one? Sharing is what the board is about or, as I said already, keep it to yourself.

my question is,
if somebody share his experience about FS with some lady RMT, providing all info about it, and most of the members of this forum will jump and point finger on that guy that is not possible ( because they didn't got FS from her, or whatever else reason can be) , or more worst, RMT come on this forum and state its not true what's that guy say...etc..
what's gonna happened after that???...(but for sure its true what that guy describe about it)...

 

[Bob the Knob]

This post has derailed.

The point I was trying to make, regardless of who I saw was:

Why do guys have bad experiences (in this case no stellar reviews, they were average comments or less about the massage and extra) when another guy can walk right in, sit right down, and baby let your hair hang down, as Nany Sinatra sang.

This review wasn't about a lady, guys it was about us!

I only mentioned the services because others reported how bad their experience was, when I experienced a total different session.

It left me wondering why that was so different.

That is all folks.

 

[Old Fart]

So what I don't get Bob, if she is already doing these services and no one but you had a good time with her, why do you feel if you mention her name, all those guys who had a less than great time with her, will suddenly be banging down her door.
Or those who have not yet seen her will be banging down her door based one one positive review (your's) vs the numerous bad ones you talk about?

Your point could have been made relevant with the provider's name, OR, just more general in nature. You may have wanted to provide an example but I do not think anyone would have argued your point that if a guy treats a lady with respect and lets her get to know him and build up a trust that he may get better service. I've been saying that for years. I can tell you things that have happened that you and others might not even believe.

 

[Albertaman]

This thread is getting HEAVY. To lighten it up a bit, here is a suggestion. Bob gave enough hints. This lady's name has been mentioned before on this forum, and she is a "little lady" and has a sweet giggle. So maybe, one of us already knows who she is..?

Last spring, another poster had mentioned an esthetician without giving any names/locations. That had intrigued me enough that I did my own homework and came across an interesting esthetician that led to some enjoyable sessions. Perhaps it wasn't even the same one, but that's the fun side of this hobby. Sometimes, just exchanging an idea or two with reputable posters is enough to provide some interesting leads.

 

[Bob the Knob]

Yes first time.

Walk in about 730 pm

 

[Jelloguy]

Agreed, but then don't post, "Guess what I got from an RMT? But I'm not telling you who cuz then you'll go too pffffffffffft".

I agree with Bob that it is about the experience for some people and not just getting into someone's pants. I also find PM's annoying asking if she took her Lulu's off etc (and I had a few regarding Mandy) but lets be honest, what Bob says can happen ANYWHERE. I too have had ladies offer me services they do not advertise or offer to anyone else because I have seen them, they trust me, I am a gentleman and they like me and want to show me their appreciation. I have reviewed these ladies (in the past on another board) but I never said, Oh, she did ?????? for me pfffffffffft." These things happen but keep them to yourself I think because, for one thing, you will just get bombarded with requests for who it was. If I ever found out, I'd not ask upfront maybe later down the road and NEVER say, I read or was told that you do offer but not everyone will be like that, so appreciate it and keep it to yourself, as hard as it is sometimes lol.

When it comes to services offered, it's all about the comfort level and trust developed between two people..

Absolutely agreed.

 

[Jelloguy]

One thing that wasn't clear was... was it your first time with her? you said TOFTT, so i assume first time seeing her?

Fair comment but if its a TOFFT then tell the effin Team. If not, play a one person sport like solitaire.

 

[Bob the Knob]

Fair comment but if its a TOFFT then tell the effin Team. If not, play a one person sport like solitaire.

My Title said " Tofft" in it, need it be more clear than that? Muy understanding is Tofft also includes trying someone out for the first time? Not?

 

[Jelloguy]

My Title said " Tofft" in it, need it be more clear than that? Muy understanding is Tofft also includes trying someone out for the first time? Not?

When I take one for the team I report back on "Hey great find and well worth it, or YMMV and would not recommend" with a name, studio name or location or all 3. Usually TOFTT is an informative comment, please tell me how your TOFTT educates any of us to go or avoid, but if we don't know anything about this so called TOFTT wouldn't you agree it's pointless? Think of it as a YELP review - I went to this "little" restaurant that everyone slams for poor service but "I got Steak and Lobster" without the crab(s) and didn't get food poisoning - So hey it's not that bad of a place.

Bob - what do you get from that? I know it's little, I know it serves Steak and Lobster and Bob didn't get sick. This is helpful to me (us) how?

Should of titled it it "Nah nah nah". I couldn't care less what you've got, had or on a list to get - I just see no point in your comment. As far as I'm concerned its childish bragging. We're not here to talk Penthouse stories, I can do that without this forum.

 

[Guy2013]

My Title said " Tofft" in it, need it be more clear than that? Muy understanding is Tofft also includes trying someone out for the first time? Not?

Bob, I'm with you on this one. The reality is that sometimes its not appropriate tos hare a name. I have reviewed quite a few ladies on this board and have always done so feeling comfortable that the ladies were offering HE as part of their sessions. However I have met a few RMT's who did not offer extras but with time, patience, and repeated visits did suggest they might provide me with something extra. These are not "one-offs" and frankly I have not shared their names. I am not about to change that, nor should you. There is no regulation on this board that states any member must come clean on every experience, and the fact is always that YMMV. Pooners can be like ravenous sharks when they smell an HE (myself included). Personally I enjoyed your story as it showed me once again that there often is hope where there appears to be none, Keep up the good work

 

[soybomber]

I agree most on bobs and the antibobs. Totally agreeable. However, this is bobs thread why not he govern it? His title n reasons were clear to me. It wasn't new info but not a waste of time too. I'd say read n move on. Go on ur own tofft adventure and post it! Or not! Haha

 

[Old Fart]

Fair comment but if its a TOFFT then tell the effin Team. If not, play a one person sport like solitaire.

And if I am correct, TOFTT is an acronym for Take on For the Team but if you do not tell the team, you really just TO (as in took one) LOL