Discectomy - After the Operation

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Aw Mel,

Bloody hell, what a muck up!!
Poor you, i'm so sorry things have gone pear shaped yet again. Whats going to happen now then? xx
 
I am sooooo! sorry to hear about your trials and tribulation Melza, it must be a big dissapointment. I understand the reason though, the ammount of blood lost in standard NHS spinal surgery can be huge!

Take time out and regroup, but for the sake of your sanity, don't give up, dig deep and do your research.

best of luck

SPINELF
 
Hey Matt and others,
I was in exrusiating pain for 18 months takin or using fentynal 100mg per hour 3 day patches then i finally got the operation but due to the strong strength of patch an my bodies addiction to this it took me 5 months to redue down to 37mg ( baring in mind that i saw the surgeon 6 wks after surgery still up on pain releif not knowing what was happening then discharged from his books), then it started.
It was liked i had been kicked in the privates; not constant but it came and went to the point i was barely able to keep my sanity. I went to the G.P and explained everything that was happening to my privates and he explained that it was coming from where i had the operation, to my horror.
I was placed back up to 75mg of the patches and told i will have to go back to the beginning of the whole process again which starts funnily enough on thursday morning in the local physio dept for an orthopedic assessment and possibly sending me for an MRI again.
Although the surgery in my opinion was a success the after math was a complete failure.
Sorry for the drawn out story but i Know the pain and the depression.
Thanks
 
What op did you have?
What happens to your privates?
What the bloody hell did they do to you?
ALSO, Thats a lot of drugs guy!!

All the best


SPINELF
 
hi, what op did you have i had L4/L5 part of the disc that was pressing on the nerve removed and part of the bone, but i am in more pain now than i was before its been about 6 months now and my left leg is still numb and weak , night time is probably the worst iam in unbelievable pain and cannot turn over, doctor told me to contact surgeon because i've not had a follow up yet but was told it will not be until next year how the hell am i supposed to cope until then, all the doctor can do is give me more pills but iam worried i will get addicted so i try to take the bare minimum but the pain is getting to me now it does make you feel down, i know there are people worse off but it makes me so annoyed if i had the money i would see the surgeon tommorrow its just not fair.
 
Matt1972,

I had my op at beginning of July - a decision not taken lightly but after years of pain and ending up with an emergency admission into hospital. I would totally recommend the alternative therapy route initially but I guess like me, you had no choice come the end. Well I can be totally positive about the results - I have a 98% reduction in the sciatic pain I experienced before the op, I am now riding, doing pilates, back at work (in a job that requires heavy lifting) and able to put my own socks and pants on! I am totally totally happy that I had the op. I do still get some leg symptoms when I do something new but apparently that is normal and just irritates the nerve and it settles after a day or two. My own personal advice is think positively, do everything physio tells you religiously and get mobile (as and when advised by physio). Drive when you can comfortably manage an emergency stop.

I wish you all the best and hope you have a really positive outcome. You will have days when you feel you are taking one step forward and then two back but you will get there - the journey is a drag but its worth the effort. Good luck.
 
Hi All,

I am 18 months after the op and everything is NOT that great. I have got some scare tissue that is giving me back ache all the time, it feels like i have a golf ball in the base of my back. The leg pain is coming back slowly but i am not sure wheather this because i have not been to the gym in 2 months or its from the scare tissue.
I have started back in the gym this week now that the DIY is all done and i hope that things improve. I am also going to more treatment to try a get rid of this scare tissue.

I feel very down as everythig was going so well up until about 4 weeks ago, thats when all the pain started to come back, i was even back on the bike doing about 60 miles a week.

On a good note, my little boy who is 4 months now is doing very well. He smiles most of the day and is a very happy little chap.
 
Thanks to everyone for your good wishes post-op.
Thought i'd update you on my recovery as i've been at home a couple of weeks now!! Its ****e!!!!

I am having the district nurses in to pack the reconstruction wounds. (in the words of the first nurse to see it she remarked "bloody hell it looks like something out of a horror film" whilst another remarked that I looked as though I had been in a major accident")

I have a hump on my back so large I have had to invest in maternity jeans, although I have only been out twice as it tires me out so much & also the meds i'm on cause me to sweat profusely so that I look like i've constantly just stepped out of a shower!)

So my recovery. Well its slloooooowwwwwwwwwww. I wasn't expecting miracles but i'm on crutches, still have a catheter, take 26 tablets a day plus Oramorph & still wake in tears during the night with nerve pain in my legs!! Also my rt hip still gives out frequently throughout the day. Still at least I have got a referral going through for the chronic pain management team.

I have review appointments due soon, although I have already been informed I will need further reconstructive surgery.

Good news though I no longer have blurred vision as they have identified my B12 was extremely low & started me on injections that I must have every 3 months for ever more. Blurred vision is a symptom of this!!

Whinge over. Also please if there are any pre oppers reading this do not be put off. I think i'm just one of the unlucky ones. I'm the type who would buy a winning lotto ticket & lose it

Melza & Ali if I do buy a winner i'll get us all sorted privately

Take care all

Luv Tracey xx
 
Hi everyone, and really pleased to hear from Tracey-1, life still sounding gruesome for you my dear (really gruesome!) but I truly hope something improves for you soon.

If you remember my surgery at Southampton hospital had been cancelled at the last minute due to an abnormal blood result (low clotting factor), I must stress that I was very happy to skip the surgery in those circumstances but really 'hacked off' that this abnormality was revealed at the pre assessment 2 weeks before! What a complete waste of time and money!!

Anyway, my manager suggested I contact the consultant secretary to find out what is going to happen now...having not heard anything from them at all for a couple of weeks. This I did, and the response from the secretary was ' I have your file in front of me because Mr ***** has asked me to see if your blood results have changed' How would they have changed I asked, she ignored my question and told me she would be speaking to the pre assessment nurse and get back to me. I haven't seen the pre assessment nurse since my pre assessment 2 weeks before the 'op', so now I ask whether I am going insane. How would my results have altered from my last test without another drop of blood to compare it with, do I trust these people anywhere near my spinal cord? Not a chance!

I also sent a ranting letter to the government health department asking why treatment for diagnosed back problems is so haphazzard, or something like that, they ignored me of course.

Anyway, I'm still hanging in mid air......lovely view!

Good to hear success stories but still maintain that problems still occur even though following the rules and promoting a positive attitude.
 
Hi Everyone

Just checking in at the one year mark post discectomy.

Overall, I am very happy that I had the operation. It hasn't all been plain sailing although there has never been a time when I regretted having the surgery, given that the only alternative seemed to be to keep living with hideous sciatic pain. The operation has definitely gotten rid of my sciatica pretty much completely. Have the odd small twinge here and there, but nothing too much. Back pain however is another issue. However, as someone (I think perhaps it was you Melza) said the discectomy operation is designed to relieve sciatic pain, not back pain.

I found the first few months after my op pretty hard going. While I was on the pain killers, I found it very difficult to think effectively. I was very vague and my memory was terrible. Looking back, I should have taken some more time off work to recover a bit more. I think I was a bit too eager to get back 'to normal'.

I found physio really good but too hard to sustain financially. However.... I try to remind myself of the importance of 'investing' in spinal health, before letting things get bad and having to go through all this stuff all over again in the future.

Hoping everyone is going ok, keeping well and enjoying some good days.
 
I am also now 12 months post op, after a minimally invasive endoscopic laser decompression of my right side foraminal opening at L 4/5 level.
Like yours, it has been completely successful in erradicating my sciatica, but it has exposed an area previously believed to be only a minor problem. My L5/S1 disc has a leak which the previous MRI's failed to flag up and so wasn't dealt with at the same time. It is this leak that is causing my upper body pains and protective spasms, including shoulder, arm, neck and head problems. I am looking to get funding for the op on this area from the NHS.

Make sure your surgeons don't miss secondary pain sources like mine!

All the best

SPINELF
 
Hi I found your post really interesting as I had a double discectomy L4/L5 in November 2008 it worked for 5 months then the pain was worse consultant now wants to do a fusion but thats another story. What I found interesting was in December 2008 whilst recovering I started to have really bad headaches with neck pain and then I started to get pins/needles and numbness in my left arm which got so bad I had to see physo who said along with my G.P. it was a slipped disc in neck due to the position I was in for my Discetomy operation. When I had MRI for this consultant said there was nothing on the MRI and it was not a slipped disc and did not know what it was and dismissed it totally. I am still getting this a year on after the operation and have never previously ever had neck pain or pins and needles etc even after being a secretary and sat at a desk typing for years and years so I find it interesting that you had problems with your neck after your operation I dont feel like I am going mad anymore after reading your post. I wonder if there are anymore peps out there who have had the same operation and have had similar problems. best wishes Melanie
 
Hi Melanie it does'nt sound like you are getting any help or proper guidance from GP Pysio or consultant. Is it not worth getting a second opinion from a registerted osteopath? Find one via personal recommendation or contact the General osteopathic council.
http://www.osteopathy.org.uk/information/finding-an-osteopath/

PS I have done my best to follow this thread and can only offer my sympathys to so many of you in your quests to sort out your back problems.
 
Morning all,

after six months of nasty sciatic pain, I had my op yesterday. I have six weeks now to get fit again before back to work, does anyone have any good expereince / information about a really good office chair. I spend up to 5 hours a day sitting at my desk, with frequent walks, and my kind HR manager has agreed to get me a special chair, but asked me to tell him what to get - seems reasonable.

Any ideas woiuld be very welcome.

Thanks,

Essex boy.
 
Hi Essex boy,

I started my return to work after 3 months post discectomy although I had suffered with my back problem for years.

Because of the number of hrs I spend at my desk I got in touch with Access to Work, part of jobcentre plus who arranged a free desk assessment by a physiotherapist with a report recommending any specialist equipment. They also paid 80% of costs over the first ยฃ300 which the employer paid.

I was recommended an Activ 5 chair from Verd OS plus some really useful other bits of equipment.

It's definately worth calling them. Good luck with recovery

Mrs Thomas
 
Hi there I was going to a very good osteopath for my back before the operation when I told my physo (he is the most senior physo at the hospital) he was not at all happy and we got into a heated exchange on the subject I still carried on seeing my osteopath which helped me at the time.
 
Osteopaths have kept me mobile for 22 years when the NHS and other physiotherapists did not have a clue and wrote me off!! Dont listen to Doctors, they are only protecting their interests and power.
In any case, the NHS in Wales are in negotiations with the Registered Osteopathic Organisations to disscuss using their services, so they cant
all think it is all that bad can they.

I had my L 4/5 facet joint operation at The Spinal Foundation under Mr. Knight. The stated procedures on web his site, does what it said on the tin. I was awake throughout the 3 hour operation and was able to tell him where to cut and where not to! 30 minutes after I was returned to my bed, I was walking up and down the corridor without any sciatic pain and i caught a train home the following day!

It sickens me when Doctors treat patients like mushrooms, kept in the dark and 'well you know'

Best wishes


SPINELF
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, big boobs super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking
  28. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Suki and Amanda works
  29. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's tomorrow's sneak peek: For Friday January 10, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky โค๏ธ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ And our raffle promotion is still on! Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  30. lovefeetspa:
    Love feet spa ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿ˜3641 wolfedale road Mississauga we have Vietnam girl and China girls we do relaxing massage deep tissue massage full body massage prostate massage 100% no hurry we girls hand soft body very smooth be make you happy phone โ˜Ž๏ธ 4169890520
  31. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” , Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Sexy hot ๐ŸŒนJapanese ๐ŸŒนSingapore ๐ŸŒนgirls working ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹at Nu spring spa ๐Ÿ‘โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  35. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NUR, PRIYA, MONIKA, LOLA LOVE MONICA, AMANDA, LUCY, PREETI, ANGELINA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  36. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 , unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  41. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  43. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, pretty EFG Ella and sweet Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. lotushubspa:
    Spa AD ๐Ÿ’‹Lotus Hub Wellness๐Ÿ’‹ 10737 Yonge St, Unit 13, Richmond Hill, ON (Elgin Mills/Yonge)๏ผŒ 416-356-5876 Good morning, ๐Ÿ’‹ dear customers, today ๐Ÿ’‹ Lotus Spa ๐Ÿ’‹ arranges female masseuses. Different girls work every day. Today there is Lisa.๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, Yuki from China, Mary๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan. Please call 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹ SMS address 10737 Yonge St unit13 lotushubspa Post #366 Jan 2, 2025 Forum
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
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