Poll Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

[qinging]

So just that we’re clear... we’re supposed to take the economists that project growth under Biden but projected a downturn for Trump and after Brexit seriously?

Trump should get extra credit for beating the economists’ projections.


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Trump hated Obama ....it killed him to live off the Obama economic success

 

[jimmyd]

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[sy barite]

Were you stupid then or stupid now?

What makes you think he has a choice?

 

[qinging]

"However, unlike Obama, who inherited the Great Recession, Trump inherited an economy that was already getting back on its feet. Overall, we found a continuation of the favorable trend lines Trump inherited from Obama.

We looked at 15 common economic statistics, from unemployment rates to growth in gross domestic product to poverty, foreclosures, and bank failures.

They cover the period of the Great Recession until today. Where possible, we’ve highlighted periods under a Republican president in red and periods under a Democratic president in blue.

The bottom line: For virtually each of these measurements, we found that the trend lines continued almost seamlessly from the second half of Obama’s presidency into the first three years of Trump’s tenure. Trump’s claim that he turned around a failing economy is wrong. "

 

[jimmyd]

What makes you think he has a choice?

Good question. I figured putting it in those terms might make him think.


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[Hornet]

Who cares about trends? I was paying $0.95 months ago when Trump was president, and now paying $1.20 when Biden is president.

Even with the China virus, a once in a century pandemic, the unemployment never got as high in 2020, as Obama’s 9.6% in 2010.

Keep trying, bro.

I noticed you didn’t address the 2014 kids in cages picture. I wonder why? Or the craziness at the border.

You can call yourself a moderate or whatever you want. Your thinking is leftist.

I don’t give anyone credit for projected growths. If Biden bring back the economy, he gets the credit. I highly doubt he will though, with policies like a $15/hr minimum wage. And we won’t know how Trump would’ve brought it back.

Oh, Biden also gets credit for 136k China virus deaths.


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You are looking at annual averages and not the monthly data. Obama inherited a 7.8% unemployment rate that quickly hit 10.0% and then he brought back to normal levels. Trump hit 14.7% Unemployment in April 2020 so Trump is worse (keyword is “in” as per your comment that Trump never got as high as Obama “in” 2020). Obviously you failed math and statistics in school as Trump blew Obama’s 10.0% high point away. Trump was the President so he completely owns the 14.7% (using your logic) and which makes him far worse than Obama ever was.

National Employment Monthly Update

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 275,000 in February, and the unemployment rate increased to 3.9 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Job gains occurred in health care, in government, in food services and drinking places, in social assistance, and in...

www.ncsl.org

if you have issues with gas prices, buy an electric car and your problems are solved. You can always take the bus as well. Those gas prices were like $1.30-1.40 before Covid-19 btw.

 

[qinging]

You are looking at annual averages and not the monthly trend. Obama inherited a 7.8% unemployment rate and Trump hit 14.7% Unemployment in April 2020. Obviously you failed statistics in school.

if you have issues with gas prices, buy an electric car and you problems are solve. You can always take the bus as well

Keep in mind this jimmyd thinks the election was rigged....so insane is his MO

 

[Hornet]

Keep in mind this jimmyd thinks the election was rigged....so insane is his MO

I’ve tried to help him. I’ve given him the contact information for CAMH. It’s hard trying to make the completely brainwashed see the light, but I’ll keep trying. I’ve been watching videos of people rescuing emaciated dogs full of mange with not much chance of a living or a good quality of life if they do and miraculously they bring them back. I feel I could do the same thing with jimmyd if the effort is put in. But, I’m also going to re-watch Old Yellar tonight so who knows.

 

[altaguetta]

Fake video Fake president <== fraud

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372040663349522438

 

[Ursus]

Biden lives in the most secure location in the world. But he wants America flooded with MS 13 gang members and other criminals.

And he also wants to take away guns from good Americans that need to defend themselves.

Biden worships the Devil, as all Communists do.

 

[jimmyd]

You are looking at annual averages and not the monthly data. Obama inherited a 7.8% unemployment rate that quickly hit 10.0% and then he brought back to normal levels. Trump hit 14.7% Unemployment in April 2020 so Trump is worse (keyword is “in” as per your comment that Trump never got as high as Obama “in” 2020). Obviously you failed math and statistics in school as Trump blew Obama’s 10.0% high point away. Trump was the President so he completely owns the 14.7% (using your logic) and which makes him far worse than Obama ever was.

National Employment Monthly Update

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 275,000 in February, and the unemployment rate increased to 3.9 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Job gains occurred in health care, in government, in food services and drinking places, in social assistance, and in...

www.ncsl.org

if you have issues with gas prices, buy an electric car and your problems are solved. You can always take the bus as well. Those gas prices were like $1.30-1.40 before Covid-19 btw.

So first you provide annual statistics, which prove you wrong, then you want to switch to monthly? On top of that, you want to include a month where the whole world was on lockdown? Please be intellectually honest.
Even with that bad month, 2020 was a better year than 3 of Obama’s years.

I should buy an electric car because Biden sucks as president? How can you be wrong at everything? It’s called bias. Lose it, or you end up looking like an idiot.

I went as far back as October 2019. I don’t see $1.30 for Toronto, much less $1.40.


Keep bringing it. I can do this all day.


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[jimmyd]

I’ve tried to help him. I’ve given him the contact information for CAMH. It’s hard trying to make the completely brainwashed see the light, but I’ll keep trying. I’ve been watching videos of people rescuing emaciated dogs full of mange with not much chance of a living or a good quality of life if they do and miraculously they bring them back. I feel I could do the same thing with jimmyd if the effort is put in. But, I’m also going to re-watch Old Yellar tonight so who knows.

Keep getting the facts wrong, Hornet (The Gay App). It’s hilarious watching you struggle.


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[qinging]

World oil at the end of April 2020 hit $15 a barrel which was also the month Russia and Saudi decided to stop their oil war...the price then headed up non-stop to todays price of $66 or so....which Trump had encouraged the two countries to do....I wonder if this had anything to do with jimmy dumb dumbs gasoline price hikes over that period....not to mention this....

Closed Texas oil refineries cause gas prices to jump in Macon

Businesses shut down, including oil refineries.

www.13wmaz.com

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[Hornet]

So first you provide annual statistics, which prove you wrong, then you want to switch to monthly? On top of that, you want to include a month where the whole world was on lockdown? Please be intellectually honest.
Even with that bad month, 2020 was a better year than 3 of Obama’s years.

I should buy an electric car because Biden sucks as president? How can you be wrong at everything? It’s called bias. Lose it, or you end up looking like an idiot.

I went as far back as October 2019. I don’t see $1.30 for Toronto, much less $1.40.
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Keep bringing it. I can do this all day.


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I provide the monthly data because you said “in”. If you said “around” or “near” it might be a different story. Guess you failed English too. Oh well, the world needs ditch diggers, Walmart greaters and Uber drivers too

I was paying $1.30 or so before the Covid shutdown but my car only takes premium gas. So, yes if you drive a cheaper car you could be paying less. Must be an upper income bias. But if you take the bus or drive an electric car you don’t worry about gas prices. Gas prices seem to be a sensitive issue for you so I thought I’d give you some alternatives to save on gas.

As for that 14.7% that is just your logic I’m applying. It happened on Tump’s watch, and if you can’t acknowledge that Obama inherited the Recession and Bush’s wars then you also can’t blame anyone other than Trump for that worst unemployment rate in recent history or you lose all credibility.

 

[jimmyd]

I provide the monthly data because you said “in”. If you said “around” or “near” it might be a different story. Guess you failed English too. Oh well, the world needs ditch diggers, Walmart greaters and Uber drivers too

I was paying $1.30 or so before the Covid shutdown but my car only takes premium gas. So, yes if you drive a cheaper car you could be paying less. Must be an upper income bias. But if you take the bus or drive an electric car you don’t worry about gas prices. Gas prices seem to be a sensitive issue for you so I thought I’d give you some alternatives to save on gas.

As for that 14.7% that is just your logic I’m applying. It happened on Tump’s watch, and if you can’t acknowledge that Obama inherited the Recession and Bush’s wars then you also can’t blame anyone other than Trump for that worst unemployment rate in recent history or you lose all credibility.

Classic leftist thinking. You’re losing every one of the arguments, so you’re moving the goal posts. You went from annual to monthly when your point failed. 14.7% in a worldwide shut down. Yeah, totally awful. He still got a better year than 3 of Obama’s years. Was there a pandemic during Obama’s administration? Obama was handed a 5.8% unemployment rate and took it to 9.6%. Slowest growth president. He kept piling on regulations.

Gas prices aren’t a sensitive subject. It just an easy way to show a difference from Trump to Biden. You moved the metrics on gas as well. No one talks about premium gas when comparing gas prices, it’s always regular. You didn’t even mention premium, until I proved you wrong once again. Yeah, you’re so much better than all of us with your Acura Vtech, that needs premium. You must be making so much money on your gay app.

I guess spelling isn’t your strong suit either. What is a “Walmart greater”?

Still waiting to hear back on the 2014 pic of kids in cages.


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[Hornet]

Classic leftist thinking. You’re losing every one of the arguments, so you’re moving the goal posts. You went from annual to monthly when your point failed. 14.7% in a worldwide shut down. Yeah, totally awful. He still got a better year than 3 of Obama’s years. Was there a pandemic during Obama’s administration? Obama was handed a 5.8% unemployment rate and took it to 9.6%. Slowest growth president. He kept piling on regulations.

Gas prices aren’t a sensitive subject. It just an easy way to show a difference from Trump to Biden. You moved the metrics on gas as well. No one talks about premium gas when comparing gas prices, it’s always regular. You didn’t even mention premium, until I proved you wrong once again. Yeah, you’re so much better than all of us with your Acura Vtech, that needs premium. You must be making so much money on your gay app.

I guess spelling isn’t your strong suit either. What is a “Walmart greater”?

Still waiting to hear back on the 2014 pic of kids in cages.


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Obama wasn’t handed a 5.8% unemployment rate. He took office on Jan 20th, 2009 and the Jan 2009 unemployment rate was 7.8%. You can’t take a 2008 average that only went up and up as the year went on and say there was a step function increase to Obama. Right there shows you failed math in school.

Autocorrect on an iPad is a pain though.

And I haven’t lost my arguments against you. You are just so biased you won’t listen and then deflect or lash out with insults once you find yourself backed into a corner with no way out with any rational and logical defence

 

[jimmyd]

Obama wasn’t handed a 5.8% unemployment rate. He took office on Jan 20th, 2009 and the Jan 2009 unemployment rate was 7.8%. You can’t take a 2008 average that only went up and up as the year went on and say there was a step function increase to Obama. Right there shows you failed math in school.

Autocorrect on an iPad is a pain though.

You’re right, math does matter. Math says a 7.8% unemployment is lower than the 9.6% it went up to under Obama. He didn’t even need a pandemic to make it go that high. And it took 8 years to bring it back to 4.9%. Obama was so amazing.

Tell us more about your Acura V-tech or your Infiniti I30.

Still waiting on your excuse on the 2014 kids in cages picture.


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[jimmyd]

Obama wasn’t handed a 5.8% unemployment rate. He took office on Jan 20th, 2009 and the Jan 2009 unemployment rate was 7.8%. You can’t take a 2008 average that only went up and up as the year went on and say there was a step function increase to Obama. Right there shows you failed math in school.

Autocorrect on an iPad is a pain though.

And I haven’t lost my arguments against you. You are just so biased you won’t listen and then deflect or lash out with insults once you find yourself backed into a corner with no way out with any rational and logical defence

Projecting much? We’re having a civil conversation and you started with the CAMH talk etc. You wanna get nuts, let’s get nuts.

And yes, you’ve lost every argument. Even providing stats that proved your own arguments wrong.


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[Hornet]

April till Aug 2018 regular gas was over 130 in Toronto. That’s while Trump was President remember

Monthly average retail prices for gasoline and fuel oil, by geography

Monthly average retail prices for gasoline and fuel oil for Canada, selected provincial cities, Whitehorse and Yellowknife. Prices are presented for the current month and previous four months. Includes fuel type and the price in cents per litre.

www150.statcan.gc.ca

 

[Hornet]

Projecting much? We’re having a civil conversation and you started with the CAMH talk etc. You wanna get nuts, let’s get nuts.

And yes, you’ve lost every argument. Even providing stats that proved your own arguments wrong.


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You were the first one to throw insults in posts long ago. I don’t drop the gloves first but once they are dropped, they aren’t going back on