Poll Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

[qinging]

Yes, by all means, let's hold everyone to the same rigorous standard of truth .

Is evidence required or is finger pointing good enough? .Are all situations equal and comparable? Remember your boy and Obamagate

Poll - Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

This leftist Jew will of course go after those most likely to oppose a tyrannical government rather than leftist anarchists who have burned down thousands of buildings. Some suspect he is senile like Biden. https://www.bitchute.com/video/YoEaxs3wGfs/ Now Trump and Co. have no power, laws can...

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[qinging]

The key words in your quote are "may occur"...

Neither you or I can know for certain it was PTSD that caused these individuals to kill themselves, but even if it was, should we actually be claiming they were "killed in the line of duty" when in actual fact they killed themselves afterwards? That does not negate the fact that these are tragic events and that the riots of January 6th almost certainly led to their deaths.

Nevertheless, I think to 99.9% percent of people getting "killed in the line of duty" means someone different directly killing the officers, not suicide by their own hand!

Words have meanings, hopefully...

The point is PTSD is an issue and suicide is a possible byproduct. It can't be ruled out. I think when you put on a police uniform you are always on duty. If an officer on vacation in street clothes chases down a bank robber and is killed, would we say he was not killed in the line of duty. As such suicide by PTSD has to be contemplated as " in line of duty".

 

[sy barite]

Is evidence required or is finger pointing good enough? .Are all situations equal and comparable? Remember your boy and Obamagate

Poll - Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

This leftist Jew will of course go after those most likely to oppose a tyrannical government rather than leftist anarchists who have burned down thousands of buildings. Some suspect he is senile like Biden. https://www.bitchute.com/video/YoEaxs3wGfs/ Now Trump and Co. have no power, laws can...

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You're my boy.

 

[qinging]

You're my boy.

I'll keep you on the straight and narrow...not to worry.

 

[sy barite]

Yes uncle.

 

[jimmyd]

What you and Trump law don't understand as shown in the Trump 60+ election fraud court challenges that were thrown out,...there needs to be actual evidence as determined by the courts...not just social media accusations...so carry on huffing and puffing ....Trump law exists only in your mind.

Yeah, you’re right. $2 billion in riot damages over the summer is Trump law.


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[jimmyd]

How about that it’s posted on the DOJ website and the AG heads the DOJ. Barr has said it repeatedly and here is supporting that DOJ policy under oath in the Senate saying he sees “no reason to change that policy”

A Sitting President’s Amenability to Indictment and Criminal Prosecution

www.justice.gov

So are you suggesting a policy change across the board, or just for Trump?


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[jimmyd]

This is what Trump law gets even when he is President with his corrupt DoJ people on the job.

Trump’s “Unmasking” Probe of Obama and Biden Found a Whole Lot of Nothing

Surprise, surprise.

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Political news from a (lefty) fashion magazine.


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[jimmyd]

Nah.

Newsflash- Parler has been down for more than a month.


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[qinging]

Political news from a (lefty) fashion magazine.


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That's all ya got?...weak....lame....pathetic.

 

[jimmyd]

3 police officers getting killed in the line of duty won't go unpunished or swept under the rug. Certainly the families of those officers won't let it for sure. Remember, Drunk Trump said on national television he wanted to put Hillary in jail for deleting emails. Which crime is more serious? Duh?

Wow, you are a real sucker for the Democrat narrative, eh? Even the New York Times has given the timeline on the officer’s death. He died a day later from a stroke, with no blunt force trauma. The other officers commit suicide days later.

Do yourself a favor. Do some research before you form an opinion.


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[qinging]

Yeah, you’re right. $2 billion in riot damages over the summer is Trump law.


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I guess this means something ?....in your mind anyway.

 

[altaguetta]

Thank God for Biden...

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[jimmyd]

The response of someone too afraid to state their own opinion and take a stance. You’d rather engage by distraction which is not making an argument at all. Your tactic is ask them to prove their position but never do anything to prove or defend your position. Oh, you say it can be easily proven or easily disproven but you never do and try to run away from the argument - the cowards way.

If you don’t have the courage to take a position and defend it without distraction you offer absolutely nothing to the conversation making you and anything you say completely irrelevant. You are trying to drown out the topic at hand with meaningless noise.

Who’s the coward Hornet? Is that your real name? Yeah, I’m the coward

Why does opinion matter? Aren’t the facts what matter most?


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[Hornet]

So are you suggesting a policy change across the board, or just for Trump?


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I would change it across the board. Right now these issues are like a hot potato that nobody wants to handle. The Mueller report couldn’t indict because of this rule so it became an impeachment issue. Fast forward to this year and we have a riot and another impeachment. Many Republican Senators voted not guilty because they thought it was unconstitutional to impeach a President out of office even though that was the first thing and vote on the Senate agenda (the Tuesday vote) which said it was constitutional and is now law for any future incidents. You even had Mitch McConnell vote not guilty for that reason the he gave a speech that Trump was practically and morally responsible and can still be handled in a court of law. Take that policy change away and let the DOJ do it’s job without restraints because the politicians don’t have the balls to do their duty and uphold their oath of office.

So what would you do? Are you going to put your neck only there and take a position and defend it or will you do your normal cowardly thing and deflect and distract?

 

[jimmyd]

ok there is the problem ...you think the media counts the votes.....no, the states do and all of them including republican run states certified that Biden won then Mike Pence certified Biden won before the Trump mob could hang him. ..

So Biden won, and Trump lost. Isn’t that what I said?

My question is, if that’s the case, why are we still talking about the loser? Are you not confident with the results?


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[qinging]

Why does opinion matter? Aren’t the facts what matter most?

Here's a fact ...Joe Biden won the election...eat it

 

[Hornet]

Who’s the coward Hornet? Is that your real name? Yeah, I’m the coward

Why does opinion matter? Aren’t the facts what matter most?


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Show us your facts, evidence and proof. You never do. You distract instead of engaging. You only want to dip your toe into the shallow end water instead of swimming in the deep end of a debate. That is what makes you a coward.

 

[qinging]

So Biden won, and Trump lost. Isn’t that what I said?

My question is, if that’s the case, why are we still talking about the loser? Are you not confident with the results?

no, you tried in your slimy way to say the media decided Biden won.....sorry no cigar.

The loser is fun to talk about since he is a loser who still thinks he won..... he is making fools of his followers which is fun to watch too.

 

[Sybarite]

The point is PTSD is an issue and suicide is a possible byproduct. It can't be ruled out. I think when you put on a police uniform you are always on duty. If an officer on vacation in street clothes chases down a bank robber and is killed, would we say he was not killed in the line of duty. As such suicide by PTSD has to be contemplated as " in line of duty".

Of course it can't be ruled out. The key word you use is possible, which means possibly yes, possibly no, and you and I don't know for sure either way. Even so it sounds like you have already made up your mind their suicides were definitely caused by PTSD.

Are you also similarly convinced the only officer who arguably was killed in the line of duty was killed due to blunt force from a fire extinguisher?

When a police officer is on vacation and the bank robber kills the police officer he has been "killed" in the way that everyone understands the word "killed" to work. If my girlfriend breaks up with me and I kill myself, are we going to claim she "killed" me too?

Look, what happened during the riots was bad enough. The Capitol was overrun for the first time since 1812. People were chanting to hang Mike Pence and the mob narrowly missed coming across him in person. There is no need to exaggerate what happened and stretch the meaning of "kill" beyond all common sense.

That said, if you want to agree with Snoopy that officers who committed suicide after the fact were "killed in the line of duty" knock yourself out, but you are just inviting the space laser / "antifa did it" people to call you out on your ridiculously strained argument...