Poll Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

Following the insurrection what do you think will happen in the next little while?

  • 1 The US will calm down, Trump will cause no further trouble, extremists will hunker down.

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • 2 Trump and his acolytes will create chaos at the inauguration on January 20.

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • 3 Extremists will go underground for a while, regroup, then start committing acts of terror.

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • 4 A second coup will be attempted in the next week or two, this time with better organization.

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30
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You lost this weeks ago and you know it. :rolf

Nah, every nonsensical point you’ve made has been obliterated. I even offered you money to prove your point and you couldn’t.




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Jews initiating a gun grab to better control the population.
 
You have used the word "almost" more than once. Trump entered his reign with the oval office ,house and senate...how did he leave?....you mentioned these 3 states could have flipped the election Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin but they didn't... they voted for Biden.. you are running on ."almost and if"....the election is over....Biden won.....you do agree Biden won don't you?

I am specifically using the word "almost" because my point is Trump almost won... again! According to you Trump even winning the first time was the royal flush fluke of the century.

Trump left with the Senate with one seat away from a GOP majority and the House with just a few more. That more than qualifies as almost, much as you wish to deny it since it destroys your analogy.

Anyways great to know the threat from Trump is now completely over forever and there's nothing more to worry about. Very reassuring...
 
Trump is the GOP right now. But the problem is that the GOP has shrunk in size as it shifted further to the right and the moderates are leaving the GOP and now calling themselves independents. The Independents are the largest pool of voters in the US


No candidate can win the General election without the moderate swing vote and it doesn’t help his cause when those moderate leaning Republicans are becoming alienated by his followers and being called RINOs. His right wing is trying to expel or marginalize the group of voters and the current moderate leaning Representatives and Senators they actually need to win the Presidency and regain power in the Senate and House.

The first time around the voters didn’t know what they’d get in Trump. Now they do. But what the GOP thinks of Trump is irrelevant as it’s an insufficient number of votes to win the Presidency and that group of people are the only ones he’s directing his message to. This time around voters know exactly what they’ll get in Trump and the moderates are looking in another direction than Trump. The moderates will take the “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me” approach. Additionally, more and more voters are the youth vote and people of colour and Trump is not addressing the needs of this changing demographics so they are given no incentive to vote Trump.


gerrymandering can help the House and Senate seat vote but it’s still a total popular vote in each state for the electoral college and Presidency. They may make it harder to vote for this demographic (all in person, no Sunday votes) but the Dems can just get more people to help mobilize the vote.

The wildcard in all this will be who the Democrats select to run as we can safely say it won’t be Biden. It will likely be Harris but that’s still a long way off.

I agree with what you're saying in general and I'm glad you agree Trump is still the GOP right now, since that's quite obviously the case. There are many good reasons to be optimistic we've seen the last of Trump, however we've seen more than enough horror movies where the monster suddenly reappears after everyone is convinced and relieved he's gone for good!

Despite many reasons for optimism, the Dems only have a razor thin majority in the house, and historically the ruling party – be it Democratic or Republican – almost always hemorrhages a lot of seats in mid-term elections. Governing is much tougher than being in opposition.

Furthermore despite reasonable expectations for the independent / youth / minority vote, there were other constituencies that the Dems also reasonably took for granted that ultimately did not break the way the polling confidently predicted, e.g. the Latino vote.

It's true independents as a group are important but we must remember that independents swing both ways. Biden was wise not to embrace defund the police, etc. in order to help keep many moderates in his column, but in that regard he was to the right of most of the other Democratic primary candidates. As I'm sure you know in the election post-mortem many Dems felt they did so much worse than expected because so many candidates on the left made it easy for the GOP to paint the entire Democratic party as "communist."

On the GOP side the evisceration of the moderates in their party had already been well under way for Trump's entire term, and yet they still very nearly won again despite doubling down on the base. A big question is will all those exiled moderate RINOs actually want to be Democrats? Where can they go?

Agree that much of the American public in general did not know what they would get the first time with Trump. What's remarkable is that in 2020, everyone knew, and he still almost won again! So much for the royal flush theory! We very nearly were fooled twice! Even more remarkable, his goons overrun the capital and even then he still has the fanatical devotion of the lion's share of the party!

Four years is a really long time and a lot can happen in the interim. Biden is in the honeymoon phase right now but there's no telling what other unexpected calamities could come down the pike and how the electorate could potentially become disenchanted with the Dems in many different ways...

Biden also had the good fortune of being a white male with a really long track record, which gave him a pretty significant advantage vis-a-vis Hillary... but if Harris is next at bat then it's still going to be a total Democratic cakewalk over Trump if he runs again???

So I believe there are many sound reasons for legitimate concern. Even so, is it fair and reasonable say that Trump is unlikely to win again? Yes absolutely!

But to assert quining does that there's "zero chance" Trump will either run or win again? Ridiculously naive, overreaching and ignorant of history and reality... in my opinion.
 
There are two Sybarites and they are different people. Trump is only 2 months out of office and he still has a grip on the GOP. If the election was today, Trump can win the GOP nomination easily. But the Primaries are 2 1/2 years away just to start. A lot can happen between now and then to change that. But the GOP primary and the General election are 2 very different things. The Republicans tried to scare voters to vote for them by saying the Dems would bring Socialism. If the Dems stay moderate and Biden/Harris don’t screw anything up major along the way, those fear tactics will fall on deaf ears in the moderate group and it becomes a numbers game with the GOP fighting an uphill battle.
There's no way the Republicans will nominate that clown again. How do they expect someone to run a country from his prison cell?

Bozo the clown recently passed away, but we still have Drunk Trump to make all the little kids laugh.
 
Funny how you mention real videos, but can’t find the video of Trump telling Americans to drink bleach. Did it disappear?


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You have a poor memory. If you like Drunk Trump so much, why didn't you take his advice? We wouldn't have to put up with you.

But remember according to Drunk Trump, this whole thing will be over by Easter 2020, and things will be like it never happened.
 
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So if the runoff was later, as in January 4th, how was the senate lost on November 3rd?


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Ha! Man, are you ever Dumb. The runoff election was only in 2 states. You don't need a runoff election in every state.
 
He’s not the president, remember? It’s up to Biden to get his constituents to take it.

A huge chunk of the medical field refuses to take it. I don’t think they’re all Trumpers.

1700 have died, in the US alone, from the vaccine.



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1700 people may have died after taking the vaccine. But saying 1700 people because of the vaccine is a plain lie. Why do you lie?
 
You have a poor memory. If you like Drunk Trump so much, why didn't you take his advice? We wouldn't have to put up with you.

But remember according to Drunk Trump, this whole thing will be over by Easter 2020, and things will be like it never happened.

He never said it...so there’s that. Please keep saying it though. It only confirms your ignorance and stupidity.

Wishing me death, eh? Always a tell tale sign you’re struggling, frustrated, and have a weak argument.


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Ha! Man, are you ever Dumb. The runoff election was only in 2 states. You don't need a runoff election in every state.

Wow! So you admit the senate wasn’t decided on November 3rd? Thank you


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