Dong Guan - Almost Everything you ever wanted to know

[Lill Iren F]

Well, this time at Ban Dao I actually got to see the live show in the bar area (also known as the show area).

I daresay it was pretty entertaining. There were two comedian singers, and four entertainers/ dancers who I think did a pretty damn good job.

I believe the minimum to sit here during show time is 200RMB or something, with mixed drinks runnign about 38RMB if I remember correctly.

Also, during the show, you can get girls as well. Price was same as last time so I chose one girl who was pretty wild, and when another called me from the "miss room" (I don't know if it's called that because they missed the chance to get customers or thats where all the little misses are) I got her as well.

Interestingly, after the show, I gave each girl 200RMB, but the wilder one kept clinging on to me even though I never said I was going to take her up. Well, for the hell of it, did her anyway, and was pleased to see she didn't mind making out a bit (the girl at lion was not willing). Other than that, she had a bit of a sloppy midesction but it was OK.

In this case I was only supposed to give her 300RMB more since I had given her 200 downstairs, when I was giving her the money though she grabbed an extra 100, and I said screw it, whatever.

Another thing is, I woke up the next morning with a pretty mean hangover and couldn't find the rest of my money. I was about to have her ass beat and fired, until I realized I had thrown it under the table myself before I took a shower, jsut in case she had sticky fingers.

Moral of the story: decide in advance where to hide your money, and make sure a girl stole it before you go making accusations. Also, that would make two consecutive trips where I have not had a problem with girls taking things from me or my room.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I have researched and RTFF, but I haven't seen anything on dress for KTV's. I have been to Thailand many times and slacks and a polo shirt were OK everywhere. I saw a couple photos of KTV's and the girls were decked out in formal dresses, and the rooms looked like Vegas. I am doing about 10 days sight seeing in China, plus about a week in Dongguan. I would prefer to pack lite. Do I need to pack coat and ties for these KTV's???

 

[Megan H.]

Gentlmen, I stayed 5 nights at the Kande Club hotel in Houjie, DG, what can I say, its like living above the best brothel in town.

Price for a full service is 650 RMB in your room, instead of 278+500 if you are not a hotel guest ant take a room by the hour. I had three girls, everyone with he own unique tricks....

Night 1: A very busty lady with surprising basic English. Shower with blowjob and then the regular treatment - masaging my back with her huge breasts, cat shower (licking and sucking every part of your body from ears to toes), then rimming and actually arsefucking, no I must say deep arsefucking me with her tongue. It was my best rim ever, she has got in so deep into my arse with her tongue.... The sensations are extreme and undescribeable (I even had a thought that the gay guys are actually up to something good...). After that she did the cat shower on my chest. I don't know waht happened to me but I asked if I can lick her pussy and she agreed, I usually don't do it to hookers but I was extremely aroused. Then it was a good fuck, her huge breasts were a bonus. 110% on my scale.

Night 3: Expectations were high, but the girl was a bit shy, or a beginner. More concentrating on cleaning my toes and arse than licking them. But the fucking was good, she was shy, but had let me to kiss her lips, even offered me her tongue... 80%, but still good value.

Night 5: Amazing wild girl, did everything without spraying that mint into her mouth but I just couldn't accept her rimming (I had bad stomach for two days and didn't want to be embarrased if anything...) anyway in bed she was soft and flexible, a real kitten, deep throated me (difficult to understad how, since I'm quite big and she was smallish and thin). So 120% for blowjob and deepthroat, 100% for bed, 70% for rim (but it is mainly my fault and the octopus I had two days ago)

Lessons: Kande girls are very close to the best on earth in performance, and definitely among the really best on value at 650 RMB (if you are a guest).

 

[mesquiteskeetr]

OK, this particular place "Lion" (which is better known by however you say Lion in Mandarin) is apparently the oldest place in town. However, for some reason, it happens to be the best right now.

There are a few peculiar things about the place:

1. To get to the karaoke, you have to walk through a restaurant first.
2. MANY of the mama-sans are young and HOT. Better than most of the karaoke girls.
3. The girls all sit in the lobby until they go to do the roll calls in the rooms, allowing you to walk around and experience a buffet. I personally found it AMAZING to not just have 10 girls to choose form but 50-60 of them.

I ended up choosing a very pretty girl who turned out to be wild as hell. She repeatedly kept grabbing my hing dai (cantonese for good friend/brother) straddled me a couple times and basically gave me all the pleasure as if she was giving me a lap dance. She was trying to get me to take her out afterwards, but I wasn't in the mood. After asking my friends, she kept telling me "let's fuck!" in English.

She was a good girl so I gave her 300rmb for the service of sitting with me.

If you try and find this place, across the street, strangely enough, there is a clothing store called "Lion" (next to a Hugo Boss store), though there is no relation. Other than that, I believe there is no english on the building identifying it.

 

[WhiteHat]

Hey all,

I m back after few years of silence in mpnet! in fact, i m now base in China for work, DG, SZ and GZ... and i m so cant wait for any bro of anak anak warga kota to visit me in China!

Ok, lets go to the point, lets PM me if u guys need information of these area, or even look for someone to recommend a good place for all fun !!! I m just here to share but not money making.

Cheers for now.

Shingo

 

[pippy:D]

So, as I couldn't get to ban dao the first night I stayed at another little hotel called Hua Mei. Boy this place sucked.

While it did give me a chance to snap some pics of what a traitional sauna room looks like, all the girls I saw walking to and fro were hardly to be desired. I am not kidding when I say they all looked retarded. That is, they had the short, thick, wide neck look of those born with downs syndrome.

I HEAR it is cheaper here for service (no way in hell am I gonna pay for anything I saw to test for you guys) but not by much... maybe 50-100RMB cheaper.

There was a plaque in the elevator showing some hot hong kong singer looking type advertising special services. False advertising. On the other side, was a picture of the girls who do traditional massage (picture enclosed) . Truth in advertising, except this is how the special service girls look too.

On another note, I think in general if you are getting a massage from a agirl in pants, then it is a no special service type of deal (though I did have one who was brushing my little homey a little too often to be pure chance). The special service girls are always wearing dresses... in my experience at least.

 

[mad hatter]

Well, in recent years, my HongKong friends who used to LOVE changping have all been complaining that the quality has been going down. Due to that, they have been experimenting with other areas. My personal observation is that while it is true that the quality has gone down a BIT, I still think Changping is still one of the best bangs for your buck.

Well, for the changes:

The Face of the Town
I daresay changping is starting to stabilize a bit. I don't see a bunch of construction going on anymore... everything pretty much seems to be built already. People still drive like maniacs, but there are sections of the city with stoplight cameras installed making it slightly safer.

The mini-mini-van taxis are for the most part gone, being replaced by legitimate taxis that are easily recognizable with phone numbers on the outside and signage on top. There are still illegitimate taxis, but they are usually in normal sedans now and operate somewhat discreety.

I hear they outlawed motorcycles as well, which was to curb snatchers (I don't remember that being a problem) so they say the city is alot safer now too. I could swear too that there are lots more nicer cars driving around, and in general, it almost feels the city has calmed down drastically.

The (not-so) almighty dollar
Wow. The dollar is taking a killing here. The dollar is 25% weaker than it was just two years ago. Whereas before the standard fee at a normal hotel for a karaoke girl to sit with you used to cost $24.00 (200rmb) it now costs you $30.00. An allnighter used to run $96 (800RMB) but now it costs a whopping $120.00. Still a deal, but man, 25% hurts.

The multi-tier system
It turns out that many places have instituted a tier pricing system at the saunas and karaokes. While I didn't go to any karaokes that had it, Hui Hua Sauna did in fact have the traditional 300RMB girls along with new 500RMB girls. The 500 RMB girls (they brought in 2 of each at a time) wore nicer see through dresses, had g-strings on, and did a turn during their presentation. In general, the higher priced girls are taller...which does nothing for me since I like shorter petite package types of girls.

Floods are for duds
While this isn't exactly new, the floods are something I experienced firsthand this trip. It gets so bad that cars will just stop on the road and get out. I saw some places getting about knee deep, and there were PLENTY of cars that had their engines seize from water ingestion that had to be towed away. The night I arrived was so bad, that after 2 hours of trying different routes to get to Ban Dao, we had to give up and I had to sleep in a crappy sauna room.

 

[Mr Bored sober]

Mmm... I just got back and haven't sorted everything out yet, but in my opinion, even if it is flooded (and I have seen pictures of cars half submerged by water) it is still the best spot for tourists.

Without crossing the street you have hui hua next door, and virgin hotel on the other side of the block. You cross a small street and there is one more place... jia hua? I forget the name. Those are some of the nicest hotels inthe area.

Also, you got a 7-11 next door, a mcdonalds across the street, an american bar, a laundry place and a bunch of dvd stores on the other side of the street and some of the best restaurants in town all right there.

Since you have been to ChangPing before, if you are interested in Karaoke, the best one right now seems to be "lion". It is apparently the oldest place, but right now has the best chicks.

Given a choice though, for ChangPing if not Ban Dao (which I only like because I am so familiar with it and it has a good karaoke) I would definitely stay at hui hua miraton or virgin.

If you want something new, you may want to check out Royal Garden in Dalang (neighboring town) or go all the way to Houjie. Price is more expensive, but better if you prefer the tall types.

Anyway. gimme a day or two and I will post the full trip report.

 

[awbball4]

Hi there, going to DG next week. I have only stayed at Miraton before any suggestions for a better choice? Seem hard to get a taxi from Miraton most of the time and it's in an easy flooding area.
Also mm friendly.

 

[Atley]

First visit to Dong Guan City, went to a Wu Sha Hotel in Changan town (3 star, for 200 rmb night), and then went to their Kara OK KTV with 4 local guys, over KTV 150 girls, can go to big room with all girls sitting and look through window and pick one, tips for girls 200 rmb for standard (wear black dresses) and 300 for tall models (wear colored dresses), girls with badge on their left side can take out, right side badge no take out, girls wear see through dresses, dinking and playing dice for 30 minutes and then mamsan comes in to tell girls to take off bras, more drinking for an hour and mamasan comes in and tells girils to take off dresses and dancing, they have g-strings on only for 30 minutes then girls put dresses back on. Take out 600 ST and 800 LT (includes tip). Very crazy and fun place, first visit to this city. KTV room cost 1700 with about 3 dozen beers,

 

[bubblegum101]

RE: barber shops....[BTW, if you dont speak chinese it CAN be a challenge...but I usually have no problems anywhere I travel in CN].
Last week in Shenzhen, I stopped into a barbershop @ 12noon for..believe it or not A HAIRCUT....
Long shampoo, longer rinse, then a young guy came downstairs and gave me a great haircut- scissors comb and razor.....all for 30 RMB!
Then my "shampooress" asked if I want massage...I had 45 minutes before driver was to pick me up so I thought "sure, why not..." We then retired to a back room (plywood walls, foam mattress, typical)....she was really cute, not a 10 but more along the lines of cute & "innocent" (ok...I know, not REALLY innocent...). She started to massage my arm and as I have learned from experience....I asked for "1-2-3?" ...her eyes got sorta wide and she said "I tell boss" (the middle aged boss lady) she came back and said "OK...300RMB" ....meaning shampoo, haircut, massage and FS for 300RMB.
Well, she was fine...very tight and slick as usual....and I made it back to the hotel to meet my friends on time!
No great revelations here, just enough to let any newbies know that it is really not difficult....or dangerous...just a few things....
1. DO NOT LET YOUR WALLET OR PASSPORT OUT OF YOUR SITE!
2. Make certain you understand $$$ upfront...unlike the US , pay after service not usually to the girl...if to mama/boss....then tip the girl...I ALWAYS tip @ 100 RMB or HKD....some will tell me I am foolish but go ahead and spend the extra $12USD upfront to the young lady....do this one time and see the results! This basically doubles her "take" and she will almost always show appreciation in her enthusiasm....
BTW, also, my experience is that 8/10 barbershops in CN operate this way....

 

[Roxanne G]

The charge is not for the room but for the trainee....

Some sauna, offer customer extra girl at 100rmb. The extra girl is new to the business, she is the trainee. (the 300rmb girl is the trainer!)

The catch is that you don't select the trainee, only the trainer.

Chinese people are some of the greatest business people on earth. Getting the customer to train the girl and pay for it too

 

[Courteney]

KTV is like buffet restaurants, sauna is like diners, and BBS are like drive thru. So if you just want to have a quickie without the warm up , go to the bbs and select your playmate. 200rmb for 1Q (one shot), 500 for overnight stay. That is what I called a happy meal

 

[tnalliah@rogers.com]

We got some good groping in here and there, but for the most part, none of us did anything TOO crazy in there. Outside of the DJ being in the room, you have the managers popping in periodically, along with gift ladies, team managers, etc. It may be a "private room", but you don't get much privacy. Though they do knock first, I forget if the doors had locks or not.

I suppose you could try to pull something off in the bathroom. I forget if I mentioned it or not, but one of us tried, but the DJ shoved the door open right as he was about to close it with him and a drunk girl inside. But then again, he ws going out with the DJ already, so she was playing the jealous girlfriend, not the typical DJ. I am not sure what the NORMAL DJ protocol dictates.

 

[koba]

You could be right about the Geisha thing. Asians stereotypically are more thought driven than action driven, from a sociological point of view, thus some asian american men sometimes come off as "shy" when compared to your run of the mill American white guy. Since I am into it, hell, maybe I AM biologically pre-disposed. There's just something about a bunch of fine young girls peeling and feeding me peanuts that gets my ego going.

But anyway, to get to your question, yeah, if that's the case, fu@* the Karaoke. You could just head to the barber shops (don't know exact locations) and grab a girl and head to the back room or bring her back to your hotel. You could also just head to the sauna, unless you REALLY wanna just cut to the chase and even pass on the erotic massage.

You might also try grabbing karaoke girls on their way too and fro work (sit in the hotel lobby and wait), but not sure if that would work 100% of the time. There is also street girls too, but unfortunately I don't know enough about them.

I covered it in part 5, but considering the length of my post (some have called it a thesis) you may not have got that far.

Happy Whoring

 

[Miss Revenge]

Can one laid the gitls in the karaoke room if you have a private roo? Then don't need to go to your hotel room nif youb are in such a hurry!!

 

[tweedle_d_clown]

Godofaccu:
Your information is detailed and seems very reliable. However I have a question but first let me explain. I am really not interested in singing in a karaoke or in drinking or for that matter in time consuming platonic activities with a female whom I am contemplating paying for her sexual favors. This is not to say that we can't get to know each other a little bit but I get impatient with prostitute seduction which seems like an oxymoron. Let's cut to the chase and get down to business with these ladies. My point of view may reveal a certain cultural bias since I have found that some Asian men prefer the geisha motif of endless hours of pre-intercourse entertainment. Now here is the question I promised: do you know where you can go in Dong Guan to find a girl and take her straight away to the lair in your hotel room?

 

[Jade S]

I had to deal with all the Visa issues myself. I ended up getting a double entry (valid for 6 months). If you go for a multiple entry, some Chinese Consulates require you have an invitation letter from China. If you're parents were literally of Chinese origin (not Taiwan), I think it is alot easier. If you have a Hong Kong passport, it is easier as well... you can get some sort of ID card, making it a lot faster. You may want to check on the web.

Regarding transportation, it sounds like most of the people I know prefer TRAIN (though I don't know where the train station is). When we went, we had a driver who drove from Shenzhen, so it wasn't that bad, but the traffic could be kind of unpredictable. Also, not sure I would want to sit in a cab for an hour.

Also, I would definitely recommend going with some friends if you plan to go to Karaoke. It's a big room, and you want at least ONE other guy, preferably someone who doesn't have an English accent.

Either way, have fun and keep us posted.

 

[benchrisdarren]

Thanks for the update. So taking a cab from there woudl be my best bet i guess. I know there are multiple visa entry, shoudl i get that? Well Im ABC, I can speak mandarin (almost sounding chinese) and i understand Cantonese, hopefully i can get by. People also have told me that everyone from honk kong parties in the mainland over the weekend. I guess i will find out and update you guys.

 

[Jingjing]

OK. Thanks for catching that. Dong Guan is in Guan DONG province, not Guangzhou. I will ammend that.

If you are asking how far Dong Guan is from GuanZhou/Canton , I believe is it about 30-45 minutes by train. Driving, it took about 45min - 1 hour from Shenzhen.

From what all my HongKie friends tell me, CP is MUCH better to play around in money wise. There may be cheap stuff in Hong Kong, but for the same level in China, it's even cheaper. Plus, the selection is ridiculous.

I'm not sure about the English level of the girls in Hong Kong, but in CP a tour guide or Chinese fluent friend is definitely needed. You could probably get away with just Cantonese if you have to. Incidentally, knowing Japanese or Korean is no help (suprising since a lot of business men from said countries there).