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Just wanted to ask my fellow pooners, here on massageplanet, if you wouldn't mind giving me the in's and out's of an MP. On a MP's website there are sometimes prices listed. Is this just the massage time? Is it assumed I am there for something else? Is there a discreet way to ask? And, I am sure this will get a LOL but can it be covered under massage benefits?
Thanks in advance for all the help.

Gorgon.
 
If the rate is something like 40/hh, then that is just the straight-up door fee. Any extras are negotiated during the massage. They will generally (assuming they get a good vibe from you), ask if there will be anything else. At that time, you can ask what is on the menu.

If the rate is like 125/hr then the place is either including a basic release or it is a legit therapuetic place. You won't know unless it has been reviewed.

As far as putting it under your benefits, do not even attempt IMHO. To do so, you have to give them personal info about yourself that could crucify you later. There are a couple horror stories on here about that already.

Post when you find a good one.

Stud.
 
One thing I used to do before I went to an mp for the first time, was to call and ask if they had showers in the room.

Noting worse then having to walk down a public hall (even if it is in a mp) wearing a towel.

In my opinion the mp's in calgary suck!!!!!!!

Try finding a good incall girl
 
Scene 1
Here is a generalized tip - if you ask a MP if they offer a 60 or 90 minutes massage and a (RMT) receipt for insurance and the answer is Yes, chances are that they are legit or at least capable of providing a real massage. The cost (for massage only) may vary considerably, but should be in the range of just under a dollar a minute to around 1.50 a minute (based on skills/experience and the surroundings), higher if you go to a hotel spa known for true luxury - not the crappy places without even a decent shower pretending to be a spa. Beware the pretenders with little massage experience but a lot of talk who try to charge on the high end of the scale and get away with clients who are also new to the scene.

Scene 2
On the recreational massage side, in Calgary they charge 40 or 50 just for a half hour room rental fee; a full hour is 80 or more (saw 60 recently in one place - for happy hour at 9 am or at 5 pm). Note - this is a room rental fee - generally speaking massage skills will be low to non existent - it's the exceptions that I keep looking for. Everything else is discussed and negotiated between client and masseuse - and in this city, this is where there is no objectivity and no baseline cost structure - it's a free for all (if you wear expensive shoes or threads, your price just went up; if you think only with your DXXX and you failed to discuss price while your pants were still on, good luck to you). Also beware of booking more than half hour as it will probably be a waste since the masseuse will be thinking of the extra tip she could be making with the next client, so your time will be cut short anyway and you have wasted your extra room fee. Scene2 Take 2 The exception to this would be at a place where basic service is included in the door fee with assurance that you get your full time.
in Scene 2 situations - to repeat STUD's advice - never ever provide personal information even if they offer RMT receipts

In other cities, there are combinations of both scenarios plus usually a thriving group of independent therapists which allows for a lot more selection and choices (real massage plus sensuality) and some form of a rate structure for guidance (you can always tip more if you want) - example in Montreal 2010 rates-
IN STUDIO One Hour massage = 50 plus tips 20HJ/40toplessHJ/60NHJ/80Thai Body Slide including Happy Ending (*HJ/FJ/Russian/whatever); Only some studios offer more services tripping into the SP zone but providing poorer massage services.
INDEPENDENTS(at their apt/home) One Hour massage = 45 to 65 including HJ - tips not necessary but welcome (20); or One Hour Thai Body Slide with HE (*) and lots of creative play = 80 to 120 total fee; Rare for independent MPs to get into the SP zone - exceptions are strictly YMMV experiences.

To overcome Bigderrick's feelings about MP service ("In my opinion the mp's in calgary suck!!!!!!!"), and to really enjoy the MP experience, one should take a week off and travel to another city - Yeah, we're talking elsewhere in Canada like Vancouver or Montreal, no need for out of country travel!

Finally - this post is not meant to offend any hard working masseuse in Calgary who offers great overall VFM - more power to you and may everyone discover you. The gems, both discovered and to be discovered are why some of us never quit.
 
Thanks to everyone for the advice. I feel more confident already. Sounds like something I need to try.
This is what makes massageplanet so good.

Gorgon
 
What causes the Calgary MP scene to be not as good as other cities? Too much LE? Too much oil money? Not enough talent? Less clever business owners? Just coincidence?
 
Must be the the Bylaws when it comes to the lack of Indies working from home - in Montreal they work from home and nobody bothers them (no BS on permits etc.) as long as they are into making an honest living as masseuses without involving drugs or pimps - also there is a Supply side factor (far more East European/Russians and local talent in Montreal, Asians in Vancouver) resulting in a competitive studio side of the massage trade. Finally, it's Cultural - pleasure is a part of everyday life - there is no taboo or premium on it as there is, here. So clients are ready to laugh and walk away if the pricing sounds like a joke. In the end it results in a win-win for both sides - clientele is more stable - they spend less total $ each time but visit more often and more predictably - on supply side - they can actually make a long term career out of it and there is less of feast and famine.
 
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  41. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Ivy โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki๐Ÿ˜˜sexy body ๐ŸคชBeautiful tits๐Ÿ˜˜very good deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected servic
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful New girl Kiki working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ Edit
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  44. Pink Flower Spa:
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Koko ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Emily, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Linda , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Cici, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Gigi, Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  49. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. ASHLEY
  50. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet friendly ,open maid,amazing massage ,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅHave nice weekend
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