Ever get picked up on Main St?

[katysoucierxtw]

So, standing doggy is OK.

 

[aBrarrilia38]

if anything. they pay the cops off. Ny state massage laws are weird. supposedly you can't have both feet off the ground at any time.

 

[bxpxigpe]

Clearly the bodywork places are illegal. Though bodywork as a word is not illegal, it is a matter of semantics I recently found out and they are giving massages which is a greater crime under NYS law than prostitution (stupid). These places are so numerous and blantantly displayed. The old people are blantantly tugging on people to come in to the places. The cops walk up and down Main Street and obviously know what is going on and yet are clearly under instructions to ignore them.

I can only speculate why and do not think this would be allowed in any other neighborhood than an Asian one. Too many people's livilihoods are tied in to this industry that would be distitute otherwise. I guess it is the lesser of two evils.

 

[pywctclm]

These old people have no other chance at employment, because of their lack of English skills. From their point-of-view, they have nothing to lose by giving you the card. Most people throw them in the garbage any way.

These people give me the card in front of my SO all the time and my SO doesnt care because she thinks this is a legit massage and probably is. She probably wants one herself.

 

[Ima Stoodint]

these people are ruthless. i am walking behind a lady friend and they ask me outta everyone...

 

[danman]

Nice breakdown there Accnts. Quite informative.

I've had mostly legit massages from those folks passing out the massage cards. They most definitely work on commission and will target only certain folks (young men or non Asians) to find more likely candidates. I've always been avoided luckily but I agree the key is to go during off-peak hours. However I've also noticed that if there are cops watching, you're easier to spot.

 

[Koeta]

After this weekend, I am now convinced that is possible to get HEs on this street, though I never have gotten one to completion. The places are unimportant since the girls do not last long and it is on an individual basis and clearly a YMV situation. This is for advanced mongoring not newbies for the most part. The workers are suppose to be legit and the vast majority are. I will thow out a few tips that will reduce the odds, though make no mistake, the odds are not in your favor.

So why do it at all or why not go for a sure thing? Well the girls are mostly younger/better looking and the total cost out-of-pocket is at most $55 for an hour a really good massage and whatever extras you might get. The downside is as discussed is the odd are at best 25% that you will be able feel her up an even less to get a HE or more. Also these women chests are very very small. The owerners watch the place like a hawk at times. The effert is labor intensive. Sometimes the cubicles are so close you can see the silloute of your neighbor and hear everythign that is going on and the other workers probably have idea what stunts you ware tying to do. Added to the challenge is that, most speak English poorly.

Here are some ideas I have found that helps increase the odds:

1) Find one of those massage places where the mats are on the floor. At some point you will be lying on your back with each of her legs on each side of your head. Your nose is only a few inches from her crotch. Lots of chances for accidental contact.

2) When the massage starts, if the girl insists to keep the sheet on you, ask for you money back. It aint going anwhere and dont waste your time.

3) Ask her did she do massages in China. Most women who have done massage in China have done many HEs.

4) Learn some chinese words. Know the words for ass (peegoo), fart (fumpee) and other playful things. Flirt, flirt flirt. Call yourself Baba (her father) and she will give you compliments so you do not lose face.

5) Tell her she is strong and feel her muscles on her arms and legs but act like it is an innocent act. Judging from her reaction, you can see if she is comfortable with your touch.

6) When they start the teach at the end (usually play with the areas on the pubic bone or upper inner thighs), accidentally push her ass to shove her closer. If she does not reactive negatively, start massaging it an go from there.

7) Realize no is not always no. It is a strange concept, but if she says no but does not move away or react angerly, slowly up the tempo. No is a way for her to save some face.

8) IF you are making decent progress, extend the time to two hours. Say loudly for the others girls to hear, that she gives a great massage and you are so relaxed. You havent had so a good massage is a long time. Give her face. She might be more receptive. But dont be a loud about it.

It is very easy to misread the signs. Last time I thought I went too far, and pulled back and the girl just gently grabbed my hand and put it back between her legs. It isnt like this is the first time for most of the girls. They have no trouble touching you. They are just afraid of the boss.

I never had a HE to completion on this street, but this is more a function of not easily getting back to the girl in a timely fashion to build on mometum. If you want to build on the relationship. Go back no more than a week later. When I hit paydirts is was shirts up, bra off and OTC below and UTC inner thighs and groping of me OTC. I never able to build on it though.

Just one mongor's approach.

You can get a $40 half hour mediocre massage with a sure HE for $20. But what I believe is a better value, is an hour kick ass massage with a women 5-20 years younger than the normal HE AMPS for twice as long for $45-$55. If you find one, make sure you get her number after a few visits. Tell her you that the girl often changes places and you will only call when she leaves the place. I have not been turned down yet an all the numbers have been good (no lie).

 

[angel_gyal4ever]

I have had some massges where the girl gets on your back and bends you backward in to a "U", to stretch your back and then twists you to both sides. This is not the type of massage you will get in an AMP. But you really have to experiment. Some of the girls are hot and will walk on your back, but just give you a backrub.

There is a hair cut place accross the street from firehouse, next to a Dim Sum restaurant (they are always changing their name) where you can get table backrubs and a haircut that are quite good for total $18 plus six dollar tip. It use to include a face and ear massage with soap and they even clean your ears inside with a que tip.

It is amazing what you can get there. The trick is you MUST go off peak time.

 

[Peanut Demorest]

People rotate fast. But you can see the girls before you accept and like all the stores in a mall, there are so many to pick from in just one block alone.

 

[Tman33]

Accnts, thanks for the informative post.
The prices are right for a good solid legit massage, do you have any info on any of the better spots out there?

Thanks for the help!
TB

 

[gwubsgoc]

There is no risk other than someone overcharging you in one these places or one of the girls leading you to believe you will get more on subsequent visits.

There are literally 50 of these places in a very small area.

 

[afcnavrx]

I am flattered. Who are you over there?

But not everyone seems to agree. I seemed to have gotten a semi-retarded groupie over there.

 

[Beatles]

Everyone should keep their safety in mind when doing anything. But if you go to Main Street during the day, it is so busy you are safe for the most part and i doubt the old women will rob you. But after seeing everyone leave the homeless man dying in the streets of Jamaica last month makes me wonder how many decent people there is New York.

 

[im smrt :-)]

Would you follow a stranger on the street into an unmarked building one block from housing projects (albeit, the Bland Homes) ?

It's one thing to see a KMP banner here, read reviews, make two phone calls then bail out if you don't get the girl in the picture, or if you get and like, follow through. It's another thing having a stranger strong-arm you into some place is a bit riskier.

That said, I have not heard of kidnapping, robberies, extortion from Flushing street massages.

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accnts, love your reviews on that utopiaplace.

 

[Brya]

Please refer to Virkodo's post re aggressive marketing practices in "Fushing". So they are tracking you! It happened to me in Manhattan. It's like once you fuck one of their team providers they EXPECT you to spend on them all the time.

 

[MHMcHH <F2>]

My experience is similar, the old man/women will take you in so they can get a "finders fee" and you get a legitimate massage from a decent looking asian women. You are separated by screens or curtains; and the last time i was there i was the only guy getting a massage (two older asian women getting a massage). Some places are nice and are in basements of salons and some are in commercial buildings. The masseuse will rub around your happy zone but not much more and with the lack of privacy you dont really want to push for much more.

I would pass on these places if you are looking of any type of service, but if you really need a massage then by all means enjoy.

 

[Jospeh Skinner]

I have had about a 12 of these massages. The vast majority of them are NOT a scam. They give legit massges only 93% of the time (or the cops would shut them down, they are all over the place in broad daylight). They usually are girls 25-35 years old and half give kick ass massages, not like the AMPS. They are geared to Chinese who know what a good massage is. There are so many of them, that if they do no have good technique workers or good looking workers, they would not be open very long. It is not uncommon to hear some snoring in the next booth.

They run between $25-$35/ hr with $10 tip. Some do a tease thing rubbing near the good parts, but it is mostly to get you to extend the time. I have gotten one to lift up her shirt and feel her ass, but that is more tha exception than the rule. The bosses circle the place and keep yelling not try anything funny.

There are some places where the woman are over 50, but some of those places give exceptionally good massages. It really is trial and error. But at $30, you can afford to experiment.

 

[GralryRor]

SOunds like a magical wonderful place!!! Kidding aside, depending on the time of day, there are usually tons of cops around in that Flushing area. I'm surprise the card-givers are so brazen. We have tough anti-pan-handling laws; I doubt what these people do are any different than aggressive pan handlers.

 

[audide]

Theyr are getting bold and aggresive in Flushing. The old men handing out the cards tell me they have young girls. I pass. Some even allude to the girls give BJs. I still pass. One old lady kept sticking her arm in front of me blocking my path, like a linebacker giving you the clothesline maneuver, on a crowded sidewalk and wouldn't take no for an answer. Three times she blocked my path until I yelled no at her. She thought it was funny but she was pissing me off.


Just 2 weeks ago, I was approachaed by this hideous dumpy-looking Chinese woman on Main Street, between 37th and 38th. She was handling out cards saying "massagy, massagy". I wasn't interested. She had a look of desperation on her face, to make money I guess, then said "sucky, sucky". I said No way!! I was too repulsed by her and I had just eaten dinner and just the thought of it was making my stomach churn. She kept after me saying "sucky sucky". I politely declined but she kept on and I had to yell NO! at her before she would leave me alone.

 

[Lotamel]

Yes, exactly.


Right. That's what I was expecting.

Don't follow you here. Kidnapping. What?