Expansion opportunity, advice?

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I have an opportunity to rent a space $350/mo includes utilites. There is a small reception area and 2 rooms.

Room #1 is 10.5' x 10.5'

Room#2 is 12'x 15'

Neither room has a sink. In fact, the only sink is in the public restroom outside of the office door about 3 feet down the hall. The office is on the 2nd floor, there is an elevator. There is a nurse practitioner who does facials/botox/etc. next door, and attorney, and an insurance agent in the building.

Is it possible to run a massage biz out of an office space that lacks access to private sinks? If you have done it, what are your thoughts on it? I am looking to offer a couple colleagues to participate and cover the overhead. Each would operate as an IC and we would split the rent but be responsible for our own product, equipment, laundry, etc.

If this was your opportunity how would you go about it?
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

My last office was in a similar building- 2nd floor, and the other occupants were mostly Attorneys & Life Insurance people. I didn't have a sink in my room, but did have access to a "slop sink" across the hall, and the bathroom sinks.
I only used the slop sink to wash my stones, and used the bathroom sink for my hands prior to sessions. I'd just use a paper towel on all door handles til I got back in the room.

When I first moved there, I did check into getting a sink installed in the room- wasn't possible because all the plumbing access was on the other side of the hallway.

The room worked well for what it was.
Since then I've moved to a place that we totally remodeled- added walls & sinks & countertops.

You should look into your plumbing issue- ask the landlord if you can install a sink somewhere. Landlord may say it's ok, but may put the cost on to you. I'd think it would be worth looking into.
Not sure how much plumbing itself would cost, but you can get a pretty inexpensive sink/vanity set from Home Depot (I got mine for $49, and only had to buy a faucet in addition)

$350 sounds like a good deal, esp if you can get someone to share the space with you!

Question about your space: How do people get upstairs? Is it just stairs, or is there elevator access?
when I was on the 2nd floor I did loose some clients who couldn't make it up that flight of stairs (bad knee, elderly...)
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

MandesDen said:
Is it possible to run a massage biz out of an office space that lacks access to private sinks? If you have done it, what are your thoughts on it?


Yes. The building I am in is similar. There is a large restroom with three large stalls, two sinks and a shower facility, built special for the dance studio in our building.

I don't have sinks or a restroom in my office. I wash hands after... and again before starting each client, and this gives the client time to get situated on the table. I lock all of my doors anytime I leave the office - including when the client is getting on the table and I go wash my hands.

Clients know they can use the public restrooms, and since they are very, very, very clean - it has never been a problem.

Hope this helps.



12/05/11 - added a little punctuation.
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

The rental rate is fantastic!

Yes - you can easily do your work without a sink in the room.
My "sink" is a stainless hot pot filled with water and a stainless bowl. It looks sharp and costs very little.
If you REALLY want a sink you can buy a portable sink - they cost around $800 and up. You plug them in for hot water and there is a seperate waste water reservoir that you would need to dump out. But they pretty much look like a plumbed sink.

Let us know what you decide!
 
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My 1st space was the same. I kept a towel on the bottom shelf of my hot towel cabinet to wipe my hands after each massage to protect the doors from oil on my way to the outside bathroom. It always took them longer to get dressed than it did for me to wash my hands, but as I put the hot towel on their back I'd say 'Just take your time getting up and enjoy this warmth. Get off the table slowly and take your time getting dressed as you may be a little dizzy which is normal after being so relaxed. I'm going to step out and wash my hands, but will be right back so let me know if you need anything'. They appreciate confirmation of cleanliness so it's a win win (if cleanliness isn't a word, it is now) lol
 
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I think this would be a great opportunity for you! I am in a similar space; 3 rooms (about 11x11) with a waiting room, on the third floor with insurance folks down the hall and various doctors through out the building. We have stairs and an elevator and the rest rooms are at the end of our hall (you have to have a key to access them, though).

The woman I rent my room from was able to have the landlords put a sink in the small hallway between two of the rooms which is useful for washing our hands but isn't the best set up for washing equipment which can be very noisy. I am considering taking items such as my foot bath and stone warmer/stones to the restrooms to wash if there are sessions going on when I need to clean them.

No sound proofing in the walls can be annoying when the other MT's are talking on their phones or with a client in the waiting room, but I'm going to put up a sign soon to remind folks to be quieter.

That rate is amazing! I pay very, very little for my monthly rent at my place but I'm pretty sure the MT who leases the space is paying at least $1000/month and I don't believe the utilities are included as we have to keep a close eye in the heat and AC use.

The fact that there is an elevator should prevent any issues with folks not being able to reach you, and the only downside would be if you are interested in walk-ins since you most likely won't have street visibility. I prefer not have walk-ins so that's not an issue for me and I like the professional atmosphere of being in a more medical/commercial oriented space.

Please let us know what you decided! :)
 
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Check you state/local regs regarding sink access for massage establishments.

That arrangement would not fly in some jurisdictions.
 
Expansion opportunity, advice?

i think we would have trouble if the only sink was in a restroom that might be occupied exactly when you need it. we are a spa in an office building but we have a sink in the hallway and kitchen that are always accessible. it also depends on what treatments you'll be doing and how much water you'll need. for instance if you're just doing regular massage you'd probably be okay. if you're going to do hot stone or body wraps or anything that might need significant water or dish washing you would probably need something to supplement.

also important...is the bathroom a single stall that you can be locked out of when in use, or are there many stalls and you can go in at any time? if it's single stall you could be locked out for 20-30 minutes if someone in your office sits on the toilet too long.

i like the ideas for the portable sink or the basin
 
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WOW!!! That is CHEAP! I pay $500 for 2 rooms in a shared suite. When you walk into the suite there's a shared lobby (I'm the only one that has ever used it since the other companies don't have clients that come to see them). Just past the lobby is a small hallway with my 2 rooms. The first room is my office/lounge and the room across the hall is my massage room. In the office room I have my desk, 2 chairs for clients and a small table with magazines and such and a water cooler for hot tea and water before or after the session. The bathroom is down a longer hallway next to a company that does home repairs. We also have a small kitchen area/break room. I use the sink in the break room for washing my hands and washing massage cups, stones, wetting towels for the cabi and washing dishes (I don't use paper cups).

I think the price is amazing. The other tenants seem like they would be quiet (my neighboring tenants are NOT) so I think if you feel good about it then go for it!
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, PAOLA, ASHA, ANGELINA, SONIA, SALMA, MEGAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAlisaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive, with a tight frame and service with a smile. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one.
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  42. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  43. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Thursday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSana 23, , Punjabi girl , very pretty 36 DDD ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Funlooker:
    Introducing Funlooker - We are a high-class escort agency representing extremely beautiful, passionate, intelligent and sexual girls in Bangkok, Barcelona, Berlin, China, Kuala Lumpur, London, New York, Paris and Tokyo - funlooker.co
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Bobo๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธAn alluring and skilled new massage girl with an elegant presence and a warm, inviting aura. Her striking figure, accentuated by her graceful posture and her massive 36DD breasts, immediately puts clients at ease.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks 36DD open mind and young student Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with sexy body open mind and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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