Farewell Letter To My Dream TG

[Anonymous]

Well, some of you are wondering why I say this will be first and last trip to LOS. As some of you know, I met the dream girl of my fantasies. She was a stunner in my books, definitely model-quality. She is by far, the prettiest of all the girls I saw during my whole stay there. I'm back home and I'm missing her like crazy. I couldn't take it here alone, so I took a road trip to the Rocky Mountains and wrote this letter. Maybe some of you will understand why this MUST be my only time there.

Being a single guy, with a little girl to take care of, this lifestyle of pursuing snatch is just not healthy. It's not only financially costly, but also the odds of catching a disease will increase + this is only temporary satisfaction. What I really want is a wife, not a hooker.

Read on...

Hello, Beautiful...

What can I say about the most beautiful girl I've ever met? She's 24, Thai, looks Japanese with a fair complexion, flawless skin, big dreamy hazel eyes. Eyes that exude more beauty from within. A slender figure so befitting of a cover girl model. If only I could have met you in America. Then again, I probaby only would have met you given the circumstances that we did. You a working girl, me a customer. Like the tragedy of Miss Saigon, a love affair that could never be. While we did not share love, we shared our bodies. And you fulfilled my fantasy-at least for a day-of having a sexual experience with the girl of my dreams. I saw you, my eyes widened, jaw dropped, heart raced. Your face so breathtakingly beautiful. And to top it off, you're sweet, happy, a joy to be with. We laughed, we snuggled, and though we didn't speak the same language, we talked. It's now 2 days since I last saw you and I can't get you out of my mind. I want dearly to bring you back to America to live with me and share all my dreams. But I fear if I did, you would eventually long for your home and maybe the lure of easy money from the work you know. Or is it easy??

I shudder to think of you with other men in such a way. Not only because I want you for myself, but because its wrong to have sex w/o love, even worse for money. You deserve better. You're such a sweet person. And what of the future for you and your son? I'm sure if he knew of your chosen profession, he would not be happy. "What does your mommy do, Johnny" said the teacher to Johnny? Hmm, my mommy sleeps with other men for money"

With your beauty beholding me, I'm sure others have fallen whim to your trance....and their pocket books as well. Still, the thought of waking up to your opulent beauty every morning would give me the energy of a boy's eagerness on Christmas morning to return home to you every night, esp. to unwrap the tasty gift of your body. But I know it would never work, to bring you here to America. We have everything against us, and nothing for us. You were my fantasy come true, but for only a day. That day is now over. Bye bye my love. Someday I hope you'll find an end to your means, not by doing this as a means to an end. Because that end may never come.

As for me, I must go on.

 

[weemundo]

That sounds like a great plan Steve , there are many undetectable poisons on the market too

Oily residue in the toilet water ? 1st i heard of that one ..sneaky b-itch

 

[Ashlea]

I agree with them.

I think you are a disgraceful slut

When I go with someone, my heart is true ONLY to them.

I too would be heartbroken if you traded me in for some fat ass falang woman. Imagine how she feels out in Thailand?

Seriously, I dont know why you need to get upset about this. Where is the future with this girl in Thailand? Marriage? Back to England? Probably not, but if you like her a lot, and enjoy her company, then surely you should be able to set the ground rules, and the rules would be -

"I like you a lot. I DONT love you. I have good fun with you, and if YOU want to, then I will see you when I return."

If you cant keep things at this level, then your head is going to be fcuked now and in the future, unless you really want a relationship with a bar girl.

By the way, like Geir says, we are no better than the bar girls, but the problem with living with one MIGHT be the fact that your own mind cant cope with what they have done or still do. If you can come to terms with that, then maybe you have a chance of success with a bar girl..

Finally, do you think this TG has ever said those lines to a man before - "I do it because I HAVE to ".

Remember - THEY DONT!

There are LOTS of respectable, hard working thai girls who live in Thailand who would NEVER go with a sex tourist (thats what we are!).

These bar girls/ladyboys/gays have a choice to get a 'normal' job in a factory or wherever, but they CHOOSE to do this.

Thats my little rant over for the moment Hope you get it sorted Steve.

By the way, did you get a tatoo with her name on your body?

 

[Zamarus]

But I understand you! I am silent though :what:

Yes, these girls make you crazy in the head!
You have to have much power, not too fall in love with a TG. They are charming, treat you like a king.

But is NOT real life! That is said for YOU, but you are thinking about the next one after you; sad for tHEM, because if the girl IS as good as you think, too many girls grow old in this business!

It HAS been done many times though, taking a girl home! Not all will they be F**cked up by the life they had! But you are obliged, and this is not scam to support the family, because that is why the girls are in the bar at the 1 st place!

Your post comes at a crazy moment! These last days I was not counting of going back to Thailand! I don't know what it was, midlife crissis over??? The stopping of my serotonine pills??? But I feel less confortable of going there alone!

Proberly because my family-life is too good! My son is 14 months now, great little fellow, and I am afraid to miss everybody too much!

As for the Tg's, it is not that I don't like to be treatened as a king anymore, I feel that I had my fun last time! And maybe also, I am a bit afraid to get "f**cked up again!

I didn't look how old you are, your family -situation, but maybe you are taking the right decission! On the other hand if this is REALLY a nice girl, she would be happy to stay out the bar and the work! other girls are hooked and an English bartender, told me:

Once a bg, always a BG

Good luck with your life! :thumbsup:

 

[Noor]

lol.in a moment of paraletic mayhem something happened which involved me waking up with thai writing on my wrist as geir and geespot are aware.it wasnt til i was at mai thai the next evening i found out what it meant.least its in thai,back home i can say its what i want it to say.i still do not know where this was done,and whose idea it was as the bg was as surprised as me.it actually dont look to bad as its near another tattoo i had done which is kinda tribal so blends in with that.i think geespot had a foto of it.
:embrassed
as for whether i love the girl or not,no i dont,i suppose i dont even respect her because of what she does,but i do like her.i will see her again,but i will also be upfront with her,i will sleep around.she likes it or lumps it.i cant be arsed to play games with the bargirls,which is what most of them do,they treat us like kings people say,but i think it is more like they treat us like mugs,and we fool for it.it is all about getting the repeat custom,not about feelings.they forget about you whilst at work,and probably have memories when they aint with a punter,or are lying around at home.not when they are working.they have to be all cheerful and happy to sucker the next punter in.
i am fed up trying to justify myself being a butterfly to someone who is an almighty butterfly.where is the logic in that.the words pot kettle and black come into mind.

steve

 

[Assist_u]

Good letter, Ahyes. Before your trip, from the way you were writing I was thinking that your days on this Earth were severely numbered for some unspoken resaon :what:.

I'm glad I'm wrong :embrassed ! You definitely have the right gameplan for yourself and your daughter!

Once again, I'm glad you had a great time, and wish you and your daughter good luck.

I hope you keep up your active membership here. Your posts, from the beginning up to today, have definitely been entertaining and have gotten a lot of people's thoughts turned around for the good of all of us. Take care!

 

[peter d]

Thats better. Thats the Steve I know.

I have seen it sooooooooo many times where the bar girl treats the guy like shit. It is a power struggle, and the girls win a lot of the time.

For a moment, I thought we had lost a good guy Arguing with bar girls

If you are arguing, then you are not in control.

Like you say, bollocks to justifying what YOU want to do. YOU pay them, so YOU set the rules. If they dont like it, fcuk them. Let them sit in the bar with their miserable face earning nothing.

A rule I always set myself is - 'They can stay as long as I keep having fun with them.' The moment they become jealous or shout, then 'La gorn'. Hasta la vista.

There are too many nice ones to waste your time with the shit ones.

Ask Geir about his first time with a bar girl. He really knows about them now, and the little lady he is with at the moment is a bit special. I have known her/watched her for about 2 years , and believe me, Geir is no fool. Any shit, and she will be gone. If she behaves, I think she will be with him loooooooong time

p.s. just buy lots of those shitty little coloured wrist bands the bar girls wear to cover the tatoo. Eventually you will find a girl with the same name, then you can take the bands off The girl will think you are great and you might get a free fcuk

 

[Freeeeezing !]

Because we are human beings and so are they. Plus we are men and they are women. Men are attracted to women, especially pretty and sexy ones. Lust is not blind, but for some very easily turns to infatuation which is the first seforum.xxxe of love. Love is blind!!!!

That 's how simple it is and how it happens. It's like A x B x C x D x E= ABCDE. The simple equation of attraction, bargirls, chemistry, desire and emotion.

When all these things are combined, the effect is that the impact is multiplied and the result is a very unusual and specific form of insanity most often referred to as LOVE, cRAzY lOvE.

 

[Mrsjvb]

i cannot understand how you can fall so easily for anyone let alone a bg in one day????
sure i have strong feelings for a particular girl out there,but it is not love and i dont plan on bringing her here,nor do i long for her daily,i miss her yes,but not to the extent you say about.and i have spent nearly 25 days in 2 trips with her.you have spent one night with a beautiful girl.thats just crazy.i no you say she was stunning and all,but surely you have been with stunning girls in your own country and not felt like that.what did she do that was so enticing,she sounds like she must of been on the game a hell of a long time and knows all the right buttons to press.what is this girls name and where does she work,i would love to see her to see what the attraction was.
steve

 

[napvapDuacY]

First off ahyes, I enjoyed your post...mainly what I see most in this post was honesty. I think at times being honest with ourselves is one of the hardest things to learn and even harder to act upon.

My logic with all of this stuff is remeber, these places we visit are not unlike going to disney land as in it is all fantasy, if you've ever been have you noticed there is no reality land, reality does not attract us and nothing but nothing beats a fantasy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want that true love of your life great, but you will more than likely find her doing what you like to do, ie out boating, skiing whatever you do besides picking up girls that shag for a living...not that there's anything wrong with that, but you have to go with the odds and you have to keep yourself planted in reality land.

I am currently going through my own midlife crisis, I suppose that's what it is, it is very tempting to run off with someone 15 yrs younger...and in a way I keep asking myself why the hell not? Yes, I know finding a good woman is a tough task, and my present gf is great...but she's getting older too...she is close to my own age and while thai women age very well! Sometimes its really hard to tell there age but at times I want someone as active as I am...So at times and through meetings with younger women...I get this thought that goes on in my head....why not?

You have my respect for doing what I imagine is something very tough to do, I hope many years down the road you don't look back and see it as a regret...in closing here are a few quotes.

Heywood
:cheers:

Better never to have met you in my dream than to wake and reach for hands that are not there.

I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.

The hottest love has the coldest end

 

[Sandy Bullot]

In 17 years I never had really the "hots" for another girl!

But what a TG can do to you especially the first time, when you are green, well that I cannot describe! It is not really love, It's like being hypnotised!

When i m in Los and havea special gf, where I want to stay longer with, I dump her after a few days anyway! Been cought one, not twice! Made once a fool of myself that is enough!

 

[Sandra D]

i prefer the quotes

To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore to love is to suffer, not to love is to suffer. To suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy then is to suffer. But suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down.

Love is grand; divorce is a hundred grand.
steve

 

[Gee]

heres my take:
I do not look at these girls as prostitutes. At first i did but my view had changed. I have a GF who use to work in the bar. She went home for about 4 months and when she came back got a job at a restaurant and i have to be honest, i dont know if id be able to work in a restaurant intead of a bar. She gets 5000baht/mo plus tips whichdoesnt come to much and she has to work 8 hours everyday. I think that is close to slavery. I dont know how an employer expects someone to work everyday.

Now on to richie007's point:
Ive met girls that didnt work int he bar and went to the university and in the end, they were looking for more money than the BG's. I just think it is enshrined in the culture that you are expected to give the girl money unless you are lucky to meet a girl that comes from a wealthy family. I think that most of us are smart enough to tell the difference between a hardened BG and a girl that is working at the bar out of neccesity.

 

[Kevin W]

What I have seen, there isnt a big difference between BGs and non BGs, it is about money anyway and non BGs can be pretty difficult to get rid of if it dont work out, a relationship with a non BGs becomes serious much faster than you expect and she tells friends and family, and she will lose face when you dump here for another one, and then she can be dangerous.

If you are going to play around, go for BGs. If you look for a serious relationship and dont want a bg, look for a non bg but also remember what I wrote above.

I think both BGs and non BGs can be a good gf.

 

[KeithOtron]

You wax poeticly about a girl you spent only a few days with who is probably shagging someone as I type this.
Don't mix up your upbringing in the U.S. with the values here in Thailand, they are completely different, talking about her son and what mommy does. If you really care about her future send her 10,000. baht a month like all the other guys that fall for the girls here. Tell her to save it for his college years and not blow it at the gold shop.
If you want a Thai wife go to www.sweetsingles.com my friend found his wife through this website. Don't confuse prostitutes with a potential wife that you only knew a couple of days.
Making this your last trip to Thailand is probably a good thing as you seem to not be able to handle the charms of the girls here and should spend your money more frugally as you have a daughter.
I know what I'm saying is a little harsh but your post is too sugary and judgemental.

 

[Lea Lea]

When I read the original post , I just knew that at some point you would come in with this ..lol

 

[HighHelper]

Good point, Nicke.
Its a long tradition in thailand for paying money when people become a couple.
Its also normal for a thai man to give money to his thai girls family when they get married. I`ve heard stories of families planing wedding just to get money. After a few months the couple split up, and the girls family are starting to look for another husband..........and here we go again.

So no matter if your girlfriend was a bg or not, its all about the money. They are born into this system, and we would be fools if we think we can change it.

So most of them wan us to give after hability, and the good ones would be happy even if its small money.

Geir

 

[x.ILoveLeeS.x]

Steve, Looks like there is a lot of suffering around. :biggrinlo :biggrinlo

 

[$aRoOoH]

Am i correct in saying a thai girl can only collect a dowry once? (the first time she gets married ?) If she gets remarried she can not, as the family has already received "compensation" once.

My friend married a thai last year, he paid a sin sot (dowry), it was her first marriage. One of this girls other sisters married a german a few years before, and the german was not required to pay a dowry as the girl had been married to a thai man before, and the thai man had paid a sin sot.

 

[Demonen]

Just a few Facts.

Most Thai girls dont settle when they go to another country i have seen many leave and then they return they miss Thailand the socialising the food the warm weather and even the bars etc etc etc .

I know of girls that have gone to uk and many other countrys BIG buffalo paid the 60 k for the visa and it 99.9 percent of the time ends in tears .

There are educated girls/woman in Thailand that could make good long term partners/wife BUT most of the girls that work these bars are uneducated and WILL be the most ruthless callous uncaring unfaithfull demanding woman you will ever meet in your lives yeah there fun for a day or 2 but as partners wives mothers to there kids ??.

Always remember what we learnt in school the 5 FS if u get invovled with these girls in the longer term they will give you MORE agrovation and unhappiness then any farang woman will or has ever done to you .

Please Dont ever forget these girls are bargirls would you marry a bar girl in your own country certianly not no: .

Heres another web www.thailovelinks.com has woman that have morals and have been educated looking for love SOME could make a long term partner but then even here i would guess some would not Thai girls dont want farang boyfriend because he is better then Thai they think they will have MONEY and a better life .

I have a lady friend in an internet shop that writes ALL DAY emails to guys for the bar girls to farang that have been here and are back home they r now getting scamed one guy just sent 50000 baht can you beleive that and by the way the woman in the internet shop said to me i can not beleive how stupid farang are sometimes what is wrong with them .

Its a big game guys A BIG GAME .