Financial advice: money saving tip

[dafdaf]

Well, if you are being more flexible with the services that you offer for a given price, then in fact you are reducing the rates. Also, as conditions in your work environment change, you seem to change your rates. So, then why are you so adament about not changing the price when in fact, you do?

 

[reese]

I'm an optimist so I am hoping MPAsquared = brick shit house.

 

[Twitch]

That is a load of garbage...open the back of the NOW mag, you can find any service at any price range. If that were true this industry would have standardized pricing. You pay more at certain places because of the level of service. There wouldnt be a difference from an Allure/SRM/HFH and your $40 Yonge St MP...UGH!

 

[ghostdog]

MPA,

First, just an observation. Everybody who works in this industry seems as though they're the most ambitious girl I've meet. If you ever have a brief chat with a stripper, they tell you about how their saving for a home or using the money to pay off school. I remember one telling me that she was saving up for med school. After you hear it so many times, you start to think some of this stuff is BS, and then you see them leave work in designer jeans, purses and glasses which all but confirms your opinion.

Anyways, you seem to have a lot of goals and ambitions for yourself which is great. Also, you've done a lot of good for yourself, which is even better. But don't ever worry that your future goals can be comprised by being in this business?

 

[boo you whore =D]

And apparently that rate is open to fluctuation....

Dont like it? Then find something else to do

 

[zealot144]

True. GM and other Autoworkers are already paid 50% more than they deserve plus they have massive pensions to boot. I bet most line workers did not or could not graduate high school and they make $80K a year or more. But I guess when you have a mind numbing job you need additional finanncial compensation... but that's enough about under worked over paid autoworkers.

 

[GCharwood]

From my experience, there seems to standard price differentiated only by the quality of the parlour. Basically the top end spas charge a certain price range (Allure, Platinum, SRM and HFH). Then there are the smaller places scattered across the GTA that charge at certain price point (Star, Lexa, Plush, Bliss etc) and finally there are the hole in the wall type of places that hire foreigners and bascially offer you a HJ for $40. So, it really is the owners of theese establishments that set the prices and not the girls. If the owners change this price standard, there competitors may have to follow.

 

[Mario S]

No... pricing is a problem as well

 

[misterk]

WOW a girl goes out Sat nite and misses alot of drama! Its like Y&R up in here!!

I want to say one thing about our potential/decission to become an MPA...ITS A STEPPING STONE! Most MPA's dont ONLY massage. Makes Law School easier to pay for. Or supports that business venture she wants. Or pays medical bills, or feeds the starving artist. we dont decide to become MPA's as a career option!! My potential is far beyond a rub 'n tug! And I live up to my potential!! To say that we are doing this because we cant do better is just down right insulting!!

Anyway, Im up for the kiss and makeup theory...as long as you are all good kissers!!

 

[Pompal 09.]

How is it open to fluctuation? Will you guys be so accepting the next time you're overcharged?

 

[Taxi Cat]

But why??? As someone pointed out, more for less is an accepted business practice in so many professions where there are people with so much more education/skills etc employed?

 

[Rod]

You missed my point.....but I'm not surprised

 

[casi]

EXACTLY!~! thank you!

 

[KarinaGia]

GO DISTURBIA GO! You are quickly moving to massageplanet.net's Finest in my eyes...!!! Im very pleased to hear this. Not many would have the guts to call out someone's bs...impressive Sire!



line worker, auto worker, or MPA...its as mind numbing as you let it...if you enter mindless, you cant expect stimulation.

 

[Anni Apple]

Your story brings tears to my eyes. Good for you Disturbia, you came to the land of opportunity and you are living your dream. However, all this success has not helped you gain one bit of common sense. No, in fact, you can not even grasp the topic of this discussion just like MPA2.

As to what you are trying to say in your post...

 

[fixed wheel yellowbelly]

Dear Princess, not sure if I said something that made me looked like an ASS in your eyes but I always say things the way I see them.

Being truthful is one thing that I can never ever live without. During war of words, either in my real life or virtual world of massageplanet.net, including a senseless thread such as this one , I'd still prefer to look like an ASS than a ASS Kiss ... by separating facts from fictions.

 

[hex]

OK, I'm going to step into this one very carefully, because I do respect MP2 and Lynn, and I do not want to be a jerk like a few of you here.

I am a strong advocate of two things in this industry:
a) Supply and demand dictates this industry, and not all customers are the same, and not all girls need the same demand.

b) MP's need set prices, and I do not negotiate them. I choose not to go if I don't like it.

Now I do take "offence", and I highlight "offence" as it not meant to be a strong comment, to MPA's suggesting this will forever be there value, and it should never go down.

I am not talking about discounts... I am talking about spa wide decreases, which has been suggested to be humiliating in a way. That a decrease in the price of this service should not happen because what you offer is somewhat different. Personally, despite being well paid, I didn't get a raise for next year, or much of a bonus,,, I didn't take it as a major insult... just a sign of the times.

We are living in a world of great uncertainty.... in a world where the wealthier gentleman are getting less or no bonuses... in a world where there are no pay raises for next year... or even pay cuts... or even worse people with once great jobs or average jobs becoming unemployed. And that is only salaried workers. Owners and commission based jobs are also likely to take hits.

Now to be clear I am not saying that an MPA should be giving discounts to client that ask for it at all.

And I'm also not suggesting that MP's must lower there prices.... if the demand from customers stays relatively stable, then in no way should they lower the market. Too bad for the customers who have fell on hard times and can't afford the luxury. MPA's should not be responsible to help the unfortunate. I think this is all fairly obvious.

But I think you are being a little misguided in not realizing that a massive demand change could well be coming... and if its coming its going to come hard. This industry has no period as a basis for comparison... there has not been a recession like this in any of the time that Lynn or MP2 have worked. This is an addictive industry... once you start cutting back a bit, it becomes very easy to cut back alot. Newcomers will have a very hard time competing. Business will go down. It is likely with price stability, may come mileage pressure caused by other girls at the spas, in order to retain clients.

Its a pretty dire picture, but its possible that no changes will need to be made. I guess the first thing that will need to be assessed is how elastic this market is... while I may not be fairly discriminatory between $80 and $100 there certainly are some guys on this board that appear to be. What is better - 5 clients at $80 or 3 guys at $100... or is the market even that elastic. And this elasticity will be affected by the increasing supply of SP's that will come in during recessinary time, causing downward prices in those services.

Spas, along with there MPA's, are going to need to be creative in how to get business up. MPA's need to at least go into the next period with an open mind that creative changes or a price decrease may be necessary, and not feel that is insulting

As someone who is somewhat intrigued "AND SADLY SO" by this business, it will be interesting to see how spas react to this. Some very tough decisions
- Maybe they do nothing, as they deem the market as very unelastic. Maybe they conclude Price decreases will not result in an offsetting demand increase, which may be the case.

- Will the MPA's go along with a price decrease. This could be an issue as the deviation in how busy individual girls accross a spa is likely to go up. Will spas denote "A" girls or "B" girls with set prices, and where each girl has her choice to go into the category she wants too. Maybe new girls go on the lower price scale. Would this be too political? Maybe, but it will give each girl a choice at creating demand for themselves, and the girls with established regulars who feels confident in her abilitities to stay at her old price.

- Perhaps extra time is the way to go. Add an extra 10 minutes accross the board. Your likely going to be less busy anyway.

- Maybe 10 minutes of more casual time before the session at no charge, where you can have a drink and chat with the spa.

- Or perhaps the cost of the service goes down $10-$20 accross the board.

- Or maybe they do nothing, and don't even discuss the alternatives, because no one wants to think of themselves as being worth "less".

That was too many words, lol.

 

[Xzara]

No they wouldnt, they simply fall into a new category.

 

[Seraphin Falls]

For me the MP scene is taking the route of the SC (strip club) scene that many of us started with. When lap dancing started to become widely popular, I was there often and saw many girls with a few favorites. After time the new girls became so lack luster and I found myself only with the few girls that I frequented. To make a long story short, I tried a few MP's (about 12yrs ago) and realized the $ value was better at there (conversation, experience, safety and fun), and I don't even go to SP's anymore, especially with the prices of drinks (only for a stag I will go, but that is still boring for me!). Also, the lack of safety, conversation & fun part is why the SP provider scene isnot really for me.
Currently, I find that many of the new girls lack conversation, experience & fun. The BS has now become the leg slide or 2 sec breast slide at best and all (not a few) of the "new" girls have become extremely sensitive in key areas . Now, I only go to my few favorites who've been around for a few years, and if it continues will be the end for me.
This is not to say the services needs to increase or the $ needs to decreased, but good overall service from many need to be had.

FYI, I'm a Star/Lexa Studio guy, been to SRM and many of the "high end" spas and it doesn't matter to me how much the room looks like a posh/fancy room, but when you are on the table all that matters is what is going on there!

My 2 cents, and if it continues the way it is, it might be the last for awhile.

 

[shari_louise84]

Its open to fluctuation because it happens all the time??!?!?

Hey... a girl could be fine giving a discount...just like a guy could be happy giving some extravagant tip.

it all goes back what your comfortable with...and you always have the choice to refuse