first-appt discount...

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Hi!

I'm an RMT from north of Dallas, TX, and I just joined this board. (What a great board, btw! LOTS of interesting info, and well-categorized!) I've been an RMT for a year and a half now. I massage part time (12-18 hrs/wk, though some weeks can be 20+, depending on business). My practice is split between my home studio and the clinic of the MT school I went to.

Anyway, I thought I'd pick everyone's brain. I don't charge less for someone's first appt. To me, I think it encourages the "shopping around" mentality, and almost discourages repeat business. For those of you who ALSO hate first-time discounts, I'd like to know your reasons, just out of curiosity.

Thanks!

Cheers,
--Jyoti
 


I don't care for them either, and have never used them. I am looking for clients who value a good massage, not a cheap(er) massage. Same reasons as you, Jyoti. And you know what?........I read the massage ads in my local weekly paper every week, just to keep up on what is going on, and however silly it seems, I just would never go to the cheapest deal out there.....they must not be "good", and I should know that what a therapist is charging, really has nothing to do with their experience, qualifications, and skills, but the cheap, $35 introductory massage make me want to look elsewhere. Kind of like getting a quote for getting your car or house fixed, and taking the middle one.

Personally, with my business, I prefer to reward repeat clients. And, as a consumer and client, I would probably be ticked off to learn that my therapist could afford to be giving $10 discounts around town. I also think that it devalues our work a little, to be offering discounts. I prefer to be associated with the medical profession, than with the local shopping mall.

Noel
 
First appt. discount

Happy Holidaze!
I am also of the opinion that a first appt. should not be discounted. If you are doing therapeutic massage on someone, the first visit involves history taking, posture eval, etc. Many docs, Pt, etc. charge extra for the first visit as it is longer and more involved.
I have only given discounts lately to those who purchase packages of 5 or 10 sessions. It was worked very well and clients like the fact that there is no transaction after their massage, they can just rebook and wander off.
There is sales research out there that states that when giving discounts the customer is not loyal, only looking for the next discount.
My 2 cents,
rubmyster
 


I have built my business on discounting the first visit as well as giving referal credits. It gives people extra incentive to try something or someone new. Yes I get people shopping around but I also get the serious ones too. What is so bad about shopping around? Perhaps someone is getting massage from someone else in town and they see my coupon and take me up on it. Perhaps they will like my work better than the other place they were going. Then there are the newbies to massage. They really need a good reason to come in. I cant tell you how many of my clients never had massage before they came in with a coupon. It is a free market. They may come in because of the coupon, but they stay with me because of my personality, friendliness, and massage work.

My new client special is just that, for new clients only and it is stated clearly on the coupon. Massage costs a chunk of money and many people arent willing to take a chance on something or someone they are not sure about.
 


I have had a couple of clients that came to their first appointment with a coupon/discount, since that first session they have NEVER paid full price. They waited until another coupon or discount went out to book another appointment.

That taught me a valuable lesson, now I only send coupons out to my clients on their birthdays, and I sent out a client appreciation coupon with my Christmas cards.

I now offer a maintenance program to my regulars for their monthly or weekly business. I've had more positive feedback and results on this than any discounts or coupons I've offered in the past.
 


I do not offer coupons freely to regular clients. I do offer packages at a discount to my regulars. If I gift a client, I do not want it to affect my bottom line. I would rather tack on an extra 10 or 15 minutes than give them a discount. I have seen clients decide they like longer sessions and they make the switch from an hour to 90 minutes because I upgraded them.

In November, I did an off site paraffin dip. I charged $5 for the dip and gave my current clients a coupon for $5 off their next visit in my office for any service over. $30. I had sent a mailing out to all my clients. I sent out about 200 postcards and had 8 clients come in from it. I also dipped about 6 others who were friends of my clients or customers in the store I did the dipping.
 


Dragonflies said:
I have had a couple of clients that came to their first appointment with a coupon/discount, since that first session they have NEVER paid full price. They waited until another coupon or discount went out to book another appointment.

That taught me a valuable lesson, now I only send coupons out to my clients on their birthdays, and I sent out a client appreciation coupon with my Christmas cards.

I now offer a maintenance program to my regulars for their monthly or weekly business. I've had more positive feedback and results on this than any discounts or coupons I've offered in the past.

This is very similar to my experiences. Discounts seem to just bring in those that value the discount more than the massage. Not the type of clients I want to bring in.

The maintenance plans work great for me and my business. I feel it gives you a steadier clientel - therefore, a steadier income. I rarely experience a slup.

Like Christine - I would rather offer additional time than a monetary discount. Many times it does lead to the client booking a longer session on a regular basis.
 


I do think Great Lakes brings up a good point.......there are a lot of people out there that value a good massage, but don't have a regular therapist, and also don't want to risk their 50 bucks on a mediocre massage. I have certainly been in that position, and instead of going to someone I didn't know.........I didn't go anywhere.

If/When I find myself advertising again, I will seriously consider having a money-back-guarantee.

Noel
 


I dont just put this in any advertising I do. I put it on my biz card and in all my literature. In bold letters right on the front page. I write my own brochures and newsletters, so it is easy to do.

I highly recommend naming your website yourcitymassage.com OR having it in addition to a website named directly for your business. I scooped up the dot net domain as well.
 


I have rarely used any type of discounts in my practice, however, this year we are starting something new, because we are shifting the focus of our practice (we're multi-diciplined and hoping to shift to more like 90% massage); mainly because we have a bit of time to test it out.

We are mailing two gift certificates for "1/2 off the first massage at our office", along with a "Welcome to the Practice" letter for each new client that comes in. The idea is that if someone comes to us, it is almost always by referral. What better way for this new client to refer another person to us, than to provide them with a GC in hand?

I think it makes a lot of sense to give people the chance to try you out, and see what they think.

I like what GreatLakes said about building the business off this and it seems like it is worth the consideration. I also like the idea of "perks" for old clients to be an "additional" amount of time, rather than a discount on what they get.

Lastly, I have never used maintenance plans or packages, though I see that they work for a lot of people. I don't think there is anything wrong with those, just that for my particular set-up they haven't found a place yet.

More thoughts from all, please! :)
 


Right now I do offer a discount for first visits: 1 hour for $35 (price of a half hour). I opened my practice in October and this promotion has been very helpful in getting clients, many of whom never experienced massage. When I get to the point where my schedule is full, I may not have to continue this offer but right now I'm building up my practice and its been helpful. One woman who saw my ad in the community paper has become a regular and she's already referred 4 people thus far.

I absolutely understand the concept of not devaluing our work but I agree with Great Lakes in that it is less of a financial risk for those unsure people. Also my offer is only good on the first visit (I believe my rates are average for the area). After that its regular pricing unless they sign up for the maintenance plan.

Regardless of how we get folks in, we need to provide a good reason to continue with us and that comes down to OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE! :mrgreen:
 


You might think about varying your approach depending on how much you need clients. A more mature business, with a decent amount of clients, probably does not need to offer first time discounts. Their time is worth more to them.

But a new business wih few clients may be more willing to trade their time as an advertising expense to grow their business quicker.

I personally think it is best to develop a unique business advaneforum.xxxe, that is not price based, that is very alluring to a target market of clients.
 
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    Nu spring spa๐ŸŒธsexy hot busty Latino ๐ŸŒนViennese ๐ŸŒนKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508
  33. SL West:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tue Blu? ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, JPN Yui, Echo, 36D Amber, Anita & Korean Lunaโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  34. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWeclome to wonder spa(9421Jane st unit 127)Rmt available Tuesday and Wednesday,sexy girl Tina and very beautiful girl Mimi ,Friendly Lucy on the duty,they both do very nice treatment and excellent finish,โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800must try today๐Ÿ‘™๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ’„
  35. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธKandy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธClaireCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    Sasa is working at Sparkling Spa with Zoe today Tuesday November 5th. Real pictures of Sasa & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: (Korean Ashley hasn't been here for AGES. The old confused imposter doesn't realize he has lost another customer, and continues to post errors and incorrect pics). Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face
  40. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Best Massage Rachel, & Wendy ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is popular for her excellent massage skills and a little extra.
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: CICI, CINDY & JENNY. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CARA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services.
  45. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5โ€™2โ€tall . 100Lbs, with D Cup Melons Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Great BBBJ, CIM, GFE in Her menu Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  47. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  48. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Tiana & Noor are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s open mind with big buttocks and young Cute Mia 25โ€™s , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
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