freind cant take massage

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If anyone has an eastern med point of veiw, Id gladly appriate.
I have a freind who cant take massage, she says when someone tries it is too painful.
She is I beleive around 24-25 and has been a victim of abuse and homelessness, she is also a former drug user if that helps.
She also see's an acupuncturist monthly if that helps any.
Does anyone know what the problem is? and if so how I can help, or if I should try not to help.
 


Sounds like there is a lot of emotional trauma which is coming up during the massage.

A few thoughts. If you work on her, I would stay very far away from the abdomen (probably at least until she can accept about 15-20 full body massages. It has been my experience that even though those with emotional trauma need this work, they can't take it easily (not even the lightest of pressure). As a matter of fact, if you ever start this work on her - begin with a gentle light touch for the first few abdominal sessions and nothing more. --- If someone else has seen the opposite need, I think it would be interesting to hear about that as well.

You could possible start out with 5 min. hand sessions. 2 and 1/2 mins. for each hand and see how she does. Then move into the feet for 5 min. sessions associated with the hand sessions. Then possibly add in forearms and then ankle region of legs. Do that for a number of times before branching out further or until she gives you the "go ahead" sign.

From there you may be able to move into the back (prone).

You'll have to take it very slow, I think.

I hope other people will add to this thread with their experiences. It will be an interesting one.
 


It sounds as if your friend has had a life time full of emotional and physical pain. With a body/mind/spirit philosophy, (Barnes') Myofascial Release would be a perfect modality for her.

In my experience as a practitioner, people who have endured years of trauma are full of restrictions in their connective tissue, and therefore, have significant pain and limited function, etc. complaints. Most have been
diagonosed with several different 'labels' when actually, with each traumatic experience, their body has tightened up to protect them.

MFR releases these restrictions in a gentle way.

There are many advanced John Barnes' Myofascial Release therapists in your area. You may want to check the therapist directory on the website for a practitioner (can't post the site but it's myofascial release dot com--no spaces).

Good luck to you and your friend,

Barbara Long, PTA/MT
 


So, Barbara, would you mind explaining how you would go about working on a client like this. What would your steps consist of? I, for one, would really be interested in hearing more.
 


When I met my husband, he couldn't handle massages either. He had this odd quirk, of when anyone touched his back, he had an urge to protect himself, fist cocked type idea.

I started out with him extremely light, and to begin with no movement. I placed my hands on his shoulders, upper back, and just stayed there, over clothing. When he was comfortable with that, I lifted my hands, and moved them placing them back down. We then progressed to effleurage. Now he can take full massages

Starting out like this may be one way. Start with energy work if she will take it. And then go on from there, maybe even start over her clothng. If she has had a rough life, she may be very protective, and defensive. You will need to work with in those boundaries, until she builds up trust in you as a therapist.

Give her full control, what you do, where you work, how hard, how light, keep in contact. See how it goes from there
 


I am in agreement with Myhrra on the energy work. A really good energy worker can do some amazing things for past trauma. Pueppi's suggestions for starting out slowly are great,too. Here is an article form massage and bodywork magazine:
http://www.massageandbodywork.com/Articles/FebMar2006/missing.html

The Ethics of Touch by Ben Benjamin and Cherie Sohnen-Moe has a lot of info on working with trauma survivors as well:

http://www.theethicsoftouch.com/

If you continue to work with this person, make sure you fully ground and protect yourself, too.
 


I have had several clients who could not tolerate masaage,and Reiki helped so much to release emotional trauma.....but prepare for alot of tears and post session depression. I find that after 2-3 sessions of Reiki will be more tolerent to physical touch. Good luck with things,go slow and follow their body's signals and adjust the session accordingly.Ground yourself well and things should be OK.

Namaste,
Johnny
 


Certain types of Shiatsu can be really helpful too, since they can be done very gently, and mostly energetically, and have the added benefit of being done on a clothed client, which seems to help the client feel a little more protective.
 
freind cant take massage

fey said:
I have a freind who cant take massage, she says when someone tries it is too painful....Does anyone know what the problem is? and if so how I can help, or if I should try not to help.
I have a question. Does your friend want to receive massage? Or is this something you think she should experience. If your friend wants to receive massage, then the advice already given is great. Begin with light techniques that can be done fully clothed. Energywork is wonderful. Then start with hand & foot massage -- using gentle pressure, and progress from there. However, if your friend hasn't asked for your help in this area, I don't think it's appropriate to try to force the issue. Massage isn't for everyone, and that's OK.
 
freind cant take massage

Blisss said:
fey said:
I have a freind who cant take massage, she says when someone tries it is too painful....Does anyone know what the problem is? and if so how I can help, or if I should try not to help.
I have a question. Does your friend want to receive massage? Or is this something you think she should experience. If your friend wants to receive massage, then the advice already given is great. Begin with light techniques that can be done fully clothed. Energywork is wonderful. Then start with hand & foot massage -- using gentle pressure, and progress from there. However, if your friend hasn't asked for your help in this area, I don't think it's appropriate to try to force the issue. Massage isn't for everyone, and that's OK.

You are very correct, I never actually considered that element. Before I continue I should definetly ask.

It sounds as if your friend has had a life time full of emotional and physical pain. With a body/mind/spirit philosophy, (Barnes') Myofascial Release would be a perfect modality for her.

I would agree with you there but I only know shiatsu and some swedish :-(
 


Im also thinking of a little rosen method.
Unfortunetly Im not trained in talk therapy or the specifics of that method but it would be a fun research project.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  40. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
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