freind cant take massage

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If anyone has an eastern med point of veiw, Id gladly appriate.
I have a freind who cant take massage, she says when someone tries it is too painful.
She is I beleive around 24-25 and has been a victim of abuse and homelessness, she is also a former drug user if that helps.
She also see's an acupuncturist monthly if that helps any.
Does anyone know what the problem is? and if so how I can help, or if I should try not to help.
 


Sounds like there is a lot of emotional trauma which is coming up during the massage.

A few thoughts. If you work on her, I would stay very far away from the abdomen (probably at least until she can accept about 15-20 full body massages. It has been my experience that even though those with emotional trauma need this work, they can't take it easily (not even the lightest of pressure). As a matter of fact, if you ever start this work on her - begin with a gentle light touch for the first few abdominal sessions and nothing more. --- If someone else has seen the opposite need, I think it would be interesting to hear about that as well.

You could possible start out with 5 min. hand sessions. 2 and 1/2 mins. for each hand and see how she does. Then move into the feet for 5 min. sessions associated with the hand sessions. Then possibly add in forearms and then ankle region of legs. Do that for a number of times before branching out further or until she gives you the "go ahead" sign.

From there you may be able to move into the back (prone).

You'll have to take it very slow, I think.

I hope other people will add to this thread with their experiences. It will be an interesting one.
 


It sounds as if your friend has had a life time full of emotional and physical pain. With a body/mind/spirit philosophy, (Barnes') Myofascial Release would be a perfect modality for her.

In my experience as a practitioner, people who have endured years of trauma are full of restrictions in their connective tissue, and therefore, have significant pain and limited function, etc. complaints. Most have been
diagonosed with several different 'labels' when actually, with each traumatic experience, their body has tightened up to protect them.

MFR releases these restrictions in a gentle way.

There are many advanced John Barnes' Myofascial Release therapists in your area. You may want to check the therapist directory on the website for a practitioner (can't post the site but it's myofascial release dot com--no spaces).

Good luck to you and your friend,

Barbara Long, PTA/MT
 


So, Barbara, would you mind explaining how you would go about working on a client like this. What would your steps consist of? I, for one, would really be interested in hearing more.
 


When I met my husband, he couldn't handle massages either. He had this odd quirk, of when anyone touched his back, he had an urge to protect himself, fist cocked type idea.

I started out with him extremely light, and to begin with no movement. I placed my hands on his shoulders, upper back, and just stayed there, over clothing. When he was comfortable with that, I lifted my hands, and moved them placing them back down. We then progressed to effleurage. Now he can take full massages

Starting out like this may be one way. Start with energy work if she will take it. And then go on from there, maybe even start over her clothng. If she has had a rough life, she may be very protective, and defensive. You will need to work with in those boundaries, until she builds up trust in you as a therapist.

Give her full control, what you do, where you work, how hard, how light, keep in contact. See how it goes from there
 


I am in agreement with Myhrra on the energy work. A really good energy worker can do some amazing things for past trauma. Pueppi's suggestions for starting out slowly are great,too. Here is an article form massage and bodywork magazine:
http://www.massageandbodywork.com/Articles/FebMar2006/missing.html

The Ethics of Touch by Ben Benjamin and Cherie Sohnen-Moe has a lot of info on working with trauma survivors as well:

http://www.theethicsoftouch.com/

If you continue to work with this person, make sure you fully ground and protect yourself, too.
 


I have had several clients who could not tolerate masaage,and Reiki helped so much to release emotional trauma.....but prepare for alot of tears and post session depression. I find that after 2-3 sessions of Reiki will be more tolerent to physical touch. Good luck with things,go slow and follow their body's signals and adjust the session accordingly.Ground yourself well and things should be OK.

Namaste,
Johnny
 


Certain types of Shiatsu can be really helpful too, since they can be done very gently, and mostly energetically, and have the added benefit of being done on a clothed client, which seems to help the client feel a little more protective.
 
freind cant take massage

fey said:
I have a freind who cant take massage, she says when someone tries it is too painful....Does anyone know what the problem is? and if so how I can help, or if I should try not to help.
I have a question. Does your friend want to receive massage? Or is this something you think she should experience. If your friend wants to receive massage, then the advice already given is great. Begin with light techniques that can be done fully clothed. Energywork is wonderful. Then start with hand & foot massage -- using gentle pressure, and progress from there. However, if your friend hasn't asked for your help in this area, I don't think it's appropriate to try to force the issue. Massage isn't for everyone, and that's OK.
 
freind cant take massage

Blisss said:
fey said:
I have a freind who cant take massage, she says when someone tries it is too painful....Does anyone know what the problem is? and if so how I can help, or if I should try not to help.
I have a question. Does your friend want to receive massage? Or is this something you think she should experience. If your friend wants to receive massage, then the advice already given is great. Begin with light techniques that can be done fully clothed. Energywork is wonderful. Then start with hand & foot massage -- using gentle pressure, and progress from there. However, if your friend hasn't asked for your help in this area, I don't think it's appropriate to try to force the issue. Massage isn't for everyone, and that's OK.

You are very correct, I never actually considered that element. Before I continue I should definetly ask.

It sounds as if your friend has had a life time full of emotional and physical pain. With a body/mind/spirit philosophy, (Barnes') Myofascial Release would be a perfect modality for her.

I would agree with you there but I only know shiatsu and some swedish :-(
 


Im also thinking of a little rosen method.
Unfortunetly Im not trained in talk therapy or the specifics of that method but it would be a fun research project.
 
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    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  46. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Friday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Amber๐Ÿ˜Our newest girl at Annie Spa directly from Hong Kong! Amber is a sexy blend of pleasure and sensuality leaving you wanting more of her erotic services. Amber is a tall slim busty girl with natural 34C breasts
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Ivy Singapore Sweetheart Girl With Amazing Personality Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-446-0886
  50. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls working today, Sophie and Kiki, they are young, pretty and cute and the massage was very professional.๐Ÿ˜Š
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