Genesis Health clinic

All i said is Severin will not made me cry when he tell how hardly earned his money is when i am probably sure that most of his income are not declare to the government. He declare probably just enough to cover his expense and get a revenu so low that the income tax percentage is not that much. That's the way it works.
 
"From every 50 $ dolar you pay:
20$ ( therapists ) + 7$ (rent and various taxes) + 5$ ( receptionist) + 4$ ( advertising )+ 2$ ( electricity, phone) + 2 $ (consumables, gas, etc).
As you can see we make a, BEFORE TAXES, 10$/ client and we do not enjoy more than 10-12 clients a day."

EagerBeaver, looks like you need an accountant as much as Severin appears to need one. The above is the only thing Severin said about his money. Before taxes, he's left with $10. He never claimed that he then lost another $5 to the tax department. He'll pay a lot less than that, if you've read the couple of posts above about Quebec's real business income tax rate (21%). Plus, I suspect that there are other accounting tricks that typical businesses engage in. Hell, he probably doesn't pay any taxes at all if he claims a loss!

I agree with DAK. I can't figure out why someone would advertise that he doesn't offer extras, if the business really depends on it???

I also tend to agree that Severin seems to have taken over the business recently, so whatever may have happened before, doesn't count anymore. Even if he's had it for some time, what's the problem with changing the way he operates his business? I think that there are a few holes in his business plan, but we obviously don't have the whole story.

Wow man, time to cool off!

Wilbur
 
Mod 5,

Thanks for stepping in. The fact that Severin resorted to personal attacks says volumes about his credibility.

Bladerunner
 
good morning to severin and all the university professors,lawyers,artists,who are on the way to his clinic this fine morning!!!!
 
Hey Wilbur,

This is Severin's exact quote. Note the emphasis made by Severin. Why does he bring up taxes if he does not pay them?

READ THE THREAD and you will see that Stripper Lover supplied the info about taxation at 50% between Quebec and Canadian authorities. Since I know SL personally and know that he has run businesses in Montreal, I tend to believe him rather than some of the other horseplop in this thread.

Usually sole proprietorships or DBAs on the one hand and corporations and or LLCs are taxed differently but we have been supplied with no information as to how this business is organized legally, so your post is a tad presumptuous.
 
All it means is that on paper he has negated all but $10.00 against expenses
leaving $10.00 to worry about and possibly being taxed.

Regardless the thread is beyond pointless.Specifically - taxes are not calculated on a per transaction basis but on a gross annual basis.Talking about percentages is pointless as I have never seen a bank deposit/withdrawal or a purchase in percentages.Prices are not posted as a percentage of income.

Like the old joke from the tainted meat scandal about 30 years ago - a butcher is accused of illegally selling sausages that are 99.9% horsemeat.His defense is that the sausages were a rabbit meat blend - 50% rabbit meat / 50% other meat.The prosecution asks for an explanation since the prosecution experts all say 99.9% horsemeat.The butcher replies "meat from one rabbit mixed with meat from one horse".

At best you have a poor business plan being examined by even weaker accountants.
 
Eastender,

We know taxes are calculated on an annual basis and not a transaction basis, but we are taking the $50 "gross revenue" as a hypotehtical and running with it. That is what we were asked to do in the original Severin hypothetical. He used $50 as a hypothetical "chunk" of gross revenue to keep the equation simple.
 
OK Guys. Who cares?
Would you mind to stop arguing over taxes and accounting stuff please?
What's the point?

I am "that" close (look at my fingers showing a very small gap between them :rolleyes: ) to close that thread...

M2
 
You just made my point about the thread - from the getgo someone should have asked him to provide a realistic hypothetical annual model.As is there is overlap - the receptionist(possibly part owner*) would be the business operator or one of the mp's,and the other figures are just textbook numbers.Rent at 10% of gross with taxes/permits rolled in to get $7.00 etc.* = changing the net significantly.
 
I realize that this is a board where many off (sex-related) topics are discussed, such off topic issues as sports, politics, etc.

But when an owner of a MP comes onto a sex discussion board to place disclaimers in defense of his supposed NON extra MP, there is serious doubt as to his voracity. We are all here to obtain information about where and/or with who about sex in whatever form.

Let's understand something right here & now gentlemen, in the sex business any publicity is good publicity for the business or provider.

Severin coming on to a sex discussion board to claim that his parlour doesn't offer extras is an oxymoron, at it's ultimate. He is got you all & is laughing at you at this point because by keeping the thread alive you are keeping his thread at the top of the list which translates into $$$ for his establishment.

He has engaged himself in publicizing his business & doesn't even have to pay. You are doing the paying that he should do. He should pay this board advertising.

There is no way that any Hotel Spa/Masseuse will reply in a thread on a board such as this. They have no reason from a professional standpoint to comment as they are offering strictly maasage and nothing else so therefore they will not bring attention to themselves on a sex related or risk encouraging men expecting sex to frequent their services expecting the same sex services.

In the sex industry (service providers-agencies and indies & MP's) don't incorporate themselves. These are not considered legit businesses by gov't tax depts. There are no income taxes paid, period. Yes, if they are running a retail business they have to have a municipal licence to operate, that not considered paying taxes.

From here on out, I for one will strongly consider someone supporting this bs to be a shill.
 
I just read through the whole thread, and it was very entertaining... Well up until it became a tax thread, sorry I'm not a math guy...

The first thing I found interesting about this whole thing is why a "legit" massage owner would even acknowledge a sex industry board? On top of that he didn't just show up to defend his business, he seemed to have a real gripe with Oliver right off the bat. Even though Oliver wasn't the first, or only, one to make comments on the lack of services he still felt the need to single him out...

"Beleive me, I had to turn away way too many clients who associate my place with more than a massage place. Remember, we are simply "Massage".
I will state this in my future ads."


This had to be one of my favorite lines... I read it and immediately said to myself, "No shit! Because you don't want to go the way of the late Massage Plus..." They offered EVERYTHING up front, and gave shitty service and you see where they are...

"Sorry if knowingly I managed to send a confusing message, CoCa Cola does the same when posts a naked woman near a Sprite botle."
Ok, maybe I'm a little slow this afternoon... But I just don't get that statement...

All in all, I think Severin's best defense would've been to do NOTHING at all... This thread would've probably died a post or two after Oliver's first one and faded off into eforum.xxx oblivion...

edit - I just realized that while I was typing StripperLover, posted a lot of the same thought I had... Oh well, what do they say about Great Minds?
 
HMMMMMMMMMMMM so why monitor the montreal "ESCORT" review board and/or CARE what is said therein?????????????
:confused:
 
good point daty

why is this owner reading what we say and do in mp places if she a legit place she doesn't need our business right?
 
Went there last thusrday and was told by Nancy that the owner sold the place to a new Chinese lady and they will start this week.

Wondering if anybody has tried the new management and if there's any new girls there as i was told by her that the new people will be bit more flexible on their service

thanks in advance as i plan to go back soon;)
 
:(

Had a massage at this pace on cte des neiges... waste of time...and money... will try elsewhere.
 
I find this thread incredibly confusing. It's all over the map.
I think we should just nuke it and start from scratch.

Laura B's confusing and uninformative posts don't help matters much.

Anyways, I don't know if Genesis has turned into Aro-mass or not, but here's the info on Aro-mass:

Aro-Mass Studio
5056 Cote-Des-Neiges
514-807-7832

They also have a place in Ville St. Laurent which will be closing by the end of February. The number there is 514-748-5858.

Hope this helps!
 
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  41. SugarLoveSpa:
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  46. HollywoodSpa:
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  48. bnwellness_wilson:
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  49. ForeverWarden:
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  50. Red Rose Spa:
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