Getting your own office

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Getting your own office

stonegirl said:
rmt4u said:
most client would be scared away with the bar thing,

I disagree. Actually, I think offering a unique specialty like ashiatsu is what will set you apart from the other therapists in your area and help you build a great clientelle.

I can understand not wanting to full out market yourself when you're working from your home. When I had a home practice - rather than market myself to strangers, I relied on referrals from my existing clients. Do you have a referral program or have you asked for referrals from your clients? You could even market yourself as "by referral only", makes you sound even more special 8)

I agree with stonegirl.

Also, as you're asking about things like triple net and utilities and close-by MT's, be sure to let the potential landlords know that you do ashiatsu, and make sure that installing the bars will not only be allowed, but safe. If you get far enough into negotiations, I'd have a contractor or installer or someone who would know come by and take a look at the space and make sure installation would be completely safe. You'll have a lot of liability on your hands if the bars end up falling on someone- as you know- not only will the client possibly be hurt, but also the landlord could "get you" for doing damage to the place. You know a whole lot more about ashiatsu than I do, so I'm sure I'm only "talking to hear myself talk", but it would be something I'd be especially focused on. Make sure permission to set up the bars is included in the language of the lease, including what would happen if structural integrity of the building itself were to cause the bars to fall, etc..
 
Getting your own office

I'm chuckling at all the Ashiatsu responses, I think it is the best massage ever! I got my first ashi massage while I was still in massage school and right away I knew I had to train in it :smt007 :smt007 I know not everyone is going to love it, but I still do traditional massage as well so... The two clients I got from my website both contacted me because they were interested in the ashi. They taught us all about proper and safe bar installation during the training and I had mine professionally installed at my house. I'm thinking for the rental space that I might go with the portable system they sell for it, just looking at the room I could tell because of the ceiling height and room width that a more permanent installation would be alot of work and I've wanted a portable set anyways so I could practice it at events. My brother is one of the cops in town and I was planning on offering the Ashi at a discount to police officers and firefighters as its well suited to big beefy guys who like deep tissue that my 5'3" self has a hard time doing with my hands alone. But again, I haven't acted on this plan because I'm reluctant to bring in strangers to my house, even if they are my brothers coworkers :lol:

I've decided I want the second space, but I'm crunching numbers and practicality right now. I want to grab a bunch of my yoga mats and see exactly how many yoga students I could fit in the room along with my massage table to eliminate any guess work. The yoga class I currently teach is actually in a nearby building and I pay $20 per class (so $80 a month). If I rented this space I would probably want to just move the classes over there cause theres no point in paying double rent. I am considering switching that yoga class to a bellydance class, because that is one thing I could not teach at the office space due to needing more room and, well, its a 'noisier' class. The other therapist will probably be irked enough that I moved in, much less if she can hear coins shimmying to drums during one of her massages. Speaking of which, I've been mulling over the issue, and the way I see it is I don't think my moving in would affect her business at all. I figure the biggest issue with neighboring competition is with losing potiental walk ins because they walk in somewhere else, being on the 3rd floor of an office building is not an aveanue where we're going to get alot of walk ins. If I do sign the lease, I plan on calling her to be polite and I would hope that we could be friendly neighbors and even help each other out.


Another issue I need to decide if I'm going to get this place is a business name. The LL is going to be putting my name outside my door and on the front window. I've been knocking around a business name for some time, but I would rather not have him use my name now then have to ask him later to change it to my business name. The one I'm liking right now is 'Lotus Life Massage and Yoga', it goes with both massage and yoga, is easy to say, and I like the L-L of it becaue my first name starts with 'L' as well. Guess I need to check with the city about registering it while I'm 'thinking' on all this.


Thanks again everyone, hashing it out here on screen is helping me get my thoughts in order!
 
Getting your own office

Oh, I LIKE the Lotus Life Massage & Yoga name! It has a lovely, peaceful and intriguing ring to it. :D

I do think you're exactly right about not worrying about the other MT losing business to you, as the 3rd floor isn't likely to get many walk-ins anyway. You pretty much have to *intend* to be on the 3rd floor in order to get there, KWIM? LOL!That salon we rented for Hubby for 6 months had very few walk-ins too; it was so silly to see all the MT's there fretting about losing walk-in business to him. People just didn't walk-in for massage at that place! Especially not from a GUY!

Anyway- I didn't realize that there was such a thing as a portable Ashiatsu setup- that is REALLY cool! It'll be another investment for you- but one you can take with you when you leave without worrying about damaging walls/ceilings! Woot! This does sound like it might work out for you. Very exciting- PLEASE keep us updated on how it turns out! Oh, yeah: what about that ME job? You gonna do that too?
 
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The portable bars are pricey, they run $1000 for a brand new set. But permanent installation has a price too, usually $400-$600. Seeing as this would be a starting point for me, it makes more economical sense to go with the set up I can take with me when I leave.

I'm going to give a call to the lady I did my ashi training with. I had told her I might want some portable bars and she said she might sell me a used set of hers for cheaper. I'll see if the offer is still open and maybe I can 'rent to own' them.

My interview at ME is this Monday, I'm considering taking a position there full time this summer and maybe go to part time when school starts back up for me in Fall. I thought about this, and while I don't like the set up, $15 is still more per hour than what I made at my last job after working there for 11 years. It occured to me that it was similar to say, nursing school and doing hospital vs doctors office work. My friend, who finishes nursing school soon, wants to work at a Drs office and all the other nurses are saying 'Oh, but you don't make as much money there...' My friend always says 'Yeah, but its still going to equal a raise for me so what do I care?'

So I'm trying to get into the mindset of taking a 'Drs Office' job while I build up to my 'Hospital' job ;)
 
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I just ordered a window cling from vista print, the door to the room I want to rent has a glass window so I can put it up on there for my 'sign'. If I end up not getting the space, I can always use it for other things. I'm allowing myself to get slightly excited about the possibilites :D

The more I look at my figures the more I feel like this is the place for me to be right now. It offers me the least amount of financial risk while providing the necessities for my private practice. I want to teach yoga at least 3x a week, at the place I teach now that would cost me $240 a month! This space is $15 less plus I can offer massage which brings in the real bacon. I also realized that the empty floor space in the yoga area can be used later for thai yoga massage, which has been on my list to learn.

One realization that 'Hey, I don't have to buy toliet paper or clean the bathrooms!' made me realize how silly I was for thinking that the lack of 'my own' bathroom was a bad thing, lol! Not having to worry about utilities is nice too. Today one of my neighbors started reving up his motorcycle, which he's notorious for doing, and I thought 'This is one of the reasons I need my own office!'

I'm planning on calling the guy tomorrow before my ME interview to tell him that I want the space and see if I can sign the lease on Friday. I'll also want to get back in there with a pile of yoga mats so I can see for sure how many students my classes can comfortably hold. This also gives me time see how my interview with ME goes, If I'm not hired there I will probably want to hold off. I also need to stop at the city office and see about registering my business name, will probably do that either way so its 'mine'. Then I've gotta check on putting an ad in the paper, renters insurance, ect.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, โ™ฅ๏ธRICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Young Helen, Yoga Lucy, New Girl Eva, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญHelen and Lucy๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Tuesday ๐Ÿ’œ Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†• Aliyah, Lucy, Yui, new Jojo, Coco, Cici, busty Amber, Kelly & Viva โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    ew girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธXuka Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available, Today's special recommendation ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐Ÿ˜ป ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil massage,got a lot experience,๐Ÿ˜very nice good looking sunny,amazing massage really relive your stress,give you comfortable time๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนmust try
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  41. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: LUCKY (12:30pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful face, Young/Cute/Petite/Pure/Submissive, Fair Skin/Perky Ass/Sweet, Super Open-Minded bbbj cim cof rim, excellent service, also strong massage. KITTY (12:30pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, JENNY, KELLY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services. TIFFANY
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Angel ๐Ÿ’• Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can wors
  46. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucy ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  47. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Cherry , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Anika ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Selena ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธIsabellaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Vicky 30โ€™s with curve body and young sweet Mia 25โ€™s, young sexy slime Sophia 30โ€™s and Cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ANGEL, SARIKA, SABHA, AMANDA, MIMI, ASHA, ANGELINA, KIRAN, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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