Question Going rate?

If my hand is on the edge of the table and they grind their crotch on it, well, that's a pretty positive sign. Otherwise, I ask.

Or when they tuck their crotch in hard against my feet hanging over the back end of the table..tucking in either foot between the inner thighs. It's also an effective arousal technique.

For home based masseuses, an all in price for either an hour or a 90m massage is an excellent way to retain the clients they want to keep. Say, $110 for an hour, and $135 for 90m. Win-win. And the HE can be tailored to be a YMMV experience based on personal connection. Varying from very basic to some degree of mutuality.


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If my hand is on the edge of the table and they grind their crotch on it, well, that's a pretty positive sign. Otherwise, I ask.
I will second that. Happened to me with, what I was told, was a VERY legit provider a few years back.
She did a little groin grind against my hand and I twitched my finger about 2mm as a test. She giggled, grabbed my wrist, shoving my hand between her thighs, and basically straddled my hand, rubbing back and forth, while giving me a fantastic milking reverse hand job.
Iโ€™m positive that if I had come on too strong, I would have walked out empty.
Instead, I walked outโ€ฆ.wellโ€ฆ.empty!

I find less is more.
 
Or when they tuck their crotch in hard against my feet hanging over the back end of the table.
I usually have my arms hanging off the sides when face down. Sometimes they will strategically start rubbing my shoulder blades and hump my elbow ever so gently...
 
Many are now asking $80 for the hour and $60 for the ending. I stick to those charging $40 for the ending. $120 total is my max budget

Can you please share the ones for $120 for those with $40 for the ending. Private message would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
This has always been a question for me as well- If we go to an establishment that charges $80 for a massage and provide a 40-60-80-100 dollar "tip" for services, are we expected to tip an independent lady who works out of her own home who asks for the exact same fees (equal to $80+tip payed to AMP)? It seems to me that we should be paying less as the independent lady pays no income tax, EI, business tax, GST, license fees, etc.- AND what we are paying them includes the tip that we would pay an AMP.
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home. Massage is the only difference where the lady pays the room fee. Which is around $30.

But now she has to provide and do her own laundry, perhaps buy the massage table, soaps shampoos, towels etc.

With no parlor interruptions, I find a good home rmt/happy ending can be far more beneficial so reducing pay for me is a non-issue
 
I feel that your dealing with a masseuse no matter where they work. You pay for the service that suits your needs, and budget, maybe you can't afford the better ladies so expect to get what you pay for.
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home.
??? Still not answering my question. So- if you paid $200 'all-in' at a parlor you would pay the same at an independent?
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home. Massage is the only difference where the lady pays the room fee. Which is around $30.

But now she has to provide and do her own laundry, perhaps buy the massage table, soaps shampoos, towels etc.

With no parlor interruptions, I find a good home rmt/happy ending can be far more beneficial so reducing pay for me is a non-issue
I also do not mind paying a home based RMT $ 80.
Her diploma cost her 25 K +
Her business license cost $ 1400.00 per year . In Calgary
As per Bob Laundry, Massage table soaps towels etc
And the best part is, if you have insurance .
 
??? Still not answering my question. So- if you paid $200 'all-in' at a parlor you would pay the same at an independent?
mighty mighty pleasin pappys corn squeezin !! NOW no more clownin..recently i have been asked for 180 for full service with an asian independant...at places like fort rd e.g. i have asked for 45 mins and it was 200...at new places i expect to pay between 140 and 200 for a range of services..only once i was asked for 300 by massage by jane..all the others have been reasonable..as for choice between parlours/independants the parlours seem to have a set plan of action and some even use the exact same terms e.g. "oh i came first this time"..the independants are more flexible but all are ymmv
 
mighty mighty pleasin pappys corn squeezin !! NOW no more clownin..recently i have been asked for 180 for full service with an asian independant...at places like fort rd e.g. i have asked for 45 mins and it was 200...at new places i expect to pay between 140 and 200 for a range of services..only once i was asked for 300 by massage by jane..all the others have been reasonable..as for choice between parlours/independants the parlours seem to have a set plan of action and some even use the exact same terms e.g. "oh i came first this time"..the independants are more flexible but all are ymmv
IT SHOULD BE 120.00 FLAT FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE ROOF.
 
Forget trying to set a "standard rate", the fact is a tip should always be based on the offering and quality of service. Sure the first time you should pay the requested rate, if the service is not there you simply don't return. However good service should not only be encouraged but rewarded, otherwise the extra effort fades away. All too often providers get soured by cheapskates, or move to greener pastures. I recall that MIss V told me she preferred Calgary as the men in Edmonton were too cheap, I avoided falling into that generalization with her by always tipping generously. Sadly she eventually moved to Calgary
This is not a hobby where one should search out the lowest price, your not buying a fricking car.
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
in regards to the difference of generosity between the men in calgary and edmonton i lived in calgary for 35 yrs and yes i met my share of big talkin, big bullshittin, drug store cowboys down there who would like to throw around big cash whether they could afford it or not..i also met a caucaisian massage girl who laughed at taking a young soldier for a good chunk of change just before he left for iraq !!..im sure their are stories like that all over but i want to say that i enjoy the city and people of edmonton and i am proud to live here now..i hope both the customers and providers of massage in edmonton are all treated with respect, dignity and fairness
 
in regards to the difference of generosity between the men in calgary and edmonton i lived in calgary for 35 yrs and yes i met my share of big talkin, big bullshittin, drug store cowboys down there who would like to throw around big cash whether they could afford it or not..i also met a caucaisian massage girl who laughed at taking a young soldier for a good chunk of change just before he left for iraq !!..im sure their are stories like that all over but i want to say that i enjoy the city and people of edmonton and i am proud to live here now..i hope both the customers and providers of massage in edmonton are all treated with respect, dignity and fairness
My comment was not intended as a slight towards Edmonton, Have lived here for 40 odd years and love the city.
Just passing on what I was told, I am sure there are cheapskates in Calgary too
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
I am sorry if I am the only one to speak to this but FFS, are you saying you tip $20 when the level of attraction doesnโ€™t meet your sophisticated scrutiny? That is the most offensive response I have seen in quite a while. Having said that I thought I blocked most of the the douchebags on this site but you just added to the list.
Just because the lady would rather not lose your pathetic chump change does not make it acceptable to treat her so poorly.
Gentlemen. $40 for basic extras is bare minimum. Accept it and stop trying to find a golden deal. FFS your lunch probably cost that much! Accept that having a complete stranger touching your junk is worth at least $40 and maybe the rest of us wonโ€™t have to deal with the poor attitudes from ladies who have to deal with cheap ass fools like yourself.
I will also point out that I have never tipped less than $50 and generally am $60+ because I have no misconceptions of what this is.
Holy fuck!
 
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Agree with Spexx. I've never gotten a basic finish for 20, used to use that as a starting point but got turned down immediately. Even 40 rairly worked. Can't be bothered trying to negotiate to achieve my satisfaction anymore, unless they are asking for a stupid amount of money. Generally if they ask what I'm willing to pay I offer 60 for basic and we move on from there ๐Ÿ˜
 
Take a look at the service being provided. If one had to provide the expected service how would it effect your performance after an entire week, month , years? If you want better sometimes you get what you pay for. What price tag would you put on your own time ? If I go into a session knowing that there is no additional service it doesn't effect how I valued that effort. I tip well unless it is a terrible ordeal. Then I just do not repeat. Seldom have I found a session that was this bad. I still tip regardless .
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Suki ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  30. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Saturday November 16, 2024, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿค—, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜, Ivy โค๏ธ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call 905-479-6668 to book and enjoy!
  31. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Fri ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL East & SL West, Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Slim Chinese Lisa, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  33. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spaโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy and hot โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅLatino ๐ŸŒธ Japanese๐ŸŒธ girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markham
  34. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Friday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & a New Girl. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. New Girl today apparently is very pretty, has good massage skills and good services. AMORE SPA
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    Sultry Nympho Susan is working at Sparkling Spa with Sexy Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Susan & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Slim Chinese Lisa, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  37. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  38. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Jennifer, Coco and Emily ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  39. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl & Asian girl today
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธMeiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ella is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Joey is very good looking,big breasted service queen,Amy is long hair provide a very good massage with...
  45. Fullssss:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๐Ÿˆต
  46. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs. Sasa is slim
  48. HolidaySpa:
    3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. [/color] Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a nice smile
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Phoenix , Nayla & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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