Good Fun in Shenzhen

johnparker,

A couple fyi points. $300 is almost just about enough to get you a 20ish model quality girl at most of the top KTV joints in the city. Typical KTV price in SZ is 1500RMB at most of the bigger places, but it's higher at the best places, and as low as 700RMB at the smaller places. One guy paying one freelance girl $300 isn't going to distort the market, but you should be aware of what's out there. If you go to Luohu, you can probably even find girls who can speak some basic English since a lot customers in that area are HKese.

I don't mean to knock the girl you were with in any way, but you should also understand, she's probably not in very high demand. 30 is considered way over the hill in the P4P scene in SZ. Most foreigners have different taste in Chinese women than natives and I would be willing to bet that she wouldn't be considered a "top" girl by the natives here. But you know what? As long as you had a good time, it's all good. Who cares what the natives think.

One last point, OCT is not really considered an area with a lot of available girls. I would go as far as to say that most people consider the VBar a big ripoff joint where girls try to take advaneforum.xxxe of naive foreigners who don't know any better. If you can, try to have a local guy take you around and head out east towards futian and Luohu. There are sooooooo many places in Shenzhen to get girls it's almost unbelievable. The only other place I can of with more girls per block would be in Changping in Dongguan.
 
Congrats!!! on your exp.
I stayed @ the Crown also back in Dec 2006. Had Christmas in China.:cool:
It is a very nice hotel.
I should have went to check out the V-bar.
But, I was busy with my local contact chasing tail in other parts of Shenzhen.
I did bring back a fine 23 year old , a 9 all around :) to spend the night. It was awesome!
(Shy, playful, sexy and aim to please!)
I too broke down and dropped a little extra cash.;) Well worth it!
When she left the next day. She wanted the bath robe to take home. I said , sure take both.:eek: ..haha. Till this day I did not get billed for them..:D .haha
Then again I stayed in one of their suites.

Congrats again on your trip.

P.S. Going back in Oct-Nov again....:D But, will be only stopping in Shenzhen for a few days...Then it's off to Hangzhou and Fuzhou. Hope to be able to post some exciting news on these places.
 
In the interest of giving back to the community, I want to share a recent experience in Shenzhen.

I stayed at the Crowne Plaza a few weeks ago. I went to the VBar at the hotel on Saturday night and had one of the best experiences I can remember in several years.

I met a girl there I will call Gigi. She arrived with a friend of hers about 11pm. I had been at the club about an hour and I was very impressed with the general quality of the crowd. That being said, Gigi really caught my eye.

I pegged here at early 20s but she later told me she was 30. She was about 5'5" (165cm) with a nice curvy figure. Cute face and DD cup boobs with nice long legs. Really tasty. I would rate her the following: face 8; body 8.5; attitude 9.5.

After buying her and her friend a drink, we went outside to the patio area and chatted. When her friend finally went to the bathroom, I told Gigi I wanted to "spend some time alone" with her. She smiled and agreed.

When her friend returned, I gave her rmb200 taxi fare to be nice. I think Gigi really appreciated my not dissing her friend. About 20 minutes later, Gigi and I were in my room. We started making out like high schoolers and then went from there.

Long story short, we made love four times over the next 14 hours or so. It was only going to be three times until we were getting ready to part ways. We were kissing good bye when she started stroking me through my pants, clearly looking for another go 'round. Every time we did it she was soaking wet like a school girl. I have to say it was doubly fun to make love to a beautiful girl who was not just in it for the $$$.

When I left for the airport, she sheepishly asked my if I could give her "a little money." I asked how much and she said US$150. US$150!! She gave me 14 hours of total bliss with "way better than GFE" service and she only wanted US$150!

Sorry to distort the market but I gave her US$300 just to be fair. Even that felt cheap. She was so totally hot and fun I couldn't have possibly given her just $150. I had a really terrific time. I think about what US$300 buys in Las Vegas and it makes me shudder.

Lessons learned (for what is worth):

--I am sure the Crowne Plaza is not the only game in town. I suspect this scenario plays out at all the "western" clubs every night.
--I was nicely dressed for my night out. I am in my 40s but I am in decent shape and do not necessarily look my age. I was polite and gracious to all the girls I met. I think this counts for a lot. Leave the T-shirts and flip-flops in the suitcase. If you want quality tail, dress like you are able to afford it.
--I think girls in China are less aggressive than in many other Asian cities (Bangkok, for example). I was approached 2 or 3 times at VBar by average looking "pros" but generally you have to do your own work. If you say "hello" and start a conversation, the girls are very pleasant and friendly. The better looking "semi-pros", in my opinion, will not approach you on their own.

Anyway, that's my take. Treat them right and you will get it back in spades. I now have a "girlfriend" in Shenzhen and I cannot wait to go back and spend time with her again!
 
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