How to know when you need to sub-contract???

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Hi everyone!
I have been thinking lately about hiring a sub-contractor and I have no idea what to do or even if I should!! My situation is that I started my own practice 4 yrs ago and I have been doing quite well! I have a 4 yr old son and he really is my first priority, and I find myself haveing to really juggle work and family and I never really expected to get to the point of having to turn people away, but lately I have been crazy! My husband also owns his own buisness and I so a bit of work for that and I am going a bit NUTTY :smt119 That is why I am considering a sub contractor. Now my question is, how does it work, I mean people are being refered to ME, are they going to not want to see someone else? Now I do have a MT in mind that I would love to hire, she has been in the biz for over 12 yrs and she works at a spa, (where she really shouldn't be) and when asked why she isn't out on her own, she replyed that she really doesn't like the buisness aspect and likes to have a "pimp" :lol: so to speak. Now, I love the buisness and marketing aspect so I have no prob doing that, but what kind of thing do you work out?? I think that is it for now, just in need of assistance. Thanks in advance!
 


I am sooo in the same place with you. I, too, have a life (read family) outside of massage that is my priority. The family gets very jealous of what they consider "their" time. As well they should be. They are the balance, the touchstone, to your business.

I took over a massage practice in June from someone that had built it up over the past 5 years. So the client base is built in. I'm making a name for myself there (country club) in that I do a different type of massage in addition to the regular stress relieving massage that she did. I tend more toward RMI and problem prevention.

What I do when a client is wanting my services I try and channel them into times that work for me. That means 5 days a week and done by 2:30. If they are needing after that or the weekend, I let them know that my schedule is full during those times but if it's okay I have an on-call therapist that is available. Then I coordinate with her.

My goal is to eventually get enough clients coming through the room (we are a one room operation) that I hire another therapist that I can charge a % rather than just rent.

My advice is that if your client load is starting to compromise the quality of your work/your body AND starting to take time away from your family, then it's time.

Think of it this way... just cause you aren't rubbing on someone doesn't mean you aren't working. Taking care of the books and marketing is work too.
 
How to know when you need to sub-contract???

Moonstone said:
I never really expected to get to the point of having to turn people away, but lately I have been crazy!

Congratulations on your success!! So are you turning people away because you can't get them in the same week or are you two or three or six weeks booked out? Are you still working out of your home?

Moonstone said:
Now my question is, how does it work, I mean people are being refered to ME, are they going to not want to see someone else?

I was talking with Kneadfulthings recently and she made a great point to hire/contract with another MT who is better than you are, because then your clients will be in very good hands and they won't feel remorseful of the days they used to see you. At some point you will have to get someone else to join your business, and are you going to have them come over to your house to do business? At the point of adding a therapist to your business, you will probably want find a business location outside of your home, and start treating your business like a business where people get referred to the business and if they want a particular therapist then they schedule the appointment 4 weeks out (or whatever the next availability is for that therapist) and put their name on the cancellation list, or they go to another therapist in the same business.

Moonstone said:
Now, I love the buisness and marketing aspect so I have no prob doing that, but what kind of thing do you work out?? I think that is it for now, just in need of assistance.

I think it is time to think about the direction of your business. You have been at it for four years and it is successful. You offer massage, spa stuff, and energy work!!! It's time to expect your business to keep growing! What kind of work do you really want to focus on? How/Where do you want your business to grow? It might be time to consider renting/buying space if you are going to grow with other therapists involved. Otherwise you are just referring the referrals you get to another therapist for a one time fee.
 


All good questions and points akb!!
To answer your first question, I am booked about 3 weeks out, that is all I go into the future because I hate having people wait that long to get relief. So that is my personal policy.
As for the MT that I am looking at to hire, she is AMAZING, I would feel 100% confident that people would love her. And yes my buisness is in my home and I am looking into renting a studio that is right around the corner, it would be a studio, so we would split the time, but it is a great little place! I really need to start this now even thought I didn't think that I would do this for a few more years, but my husband and I are trying again for another baby and I want to be able to take some time off after the baby is born and not have to fell worried or guilty that my clients are anxiously awaiting my return!?? But another question is, what do you work out with shared space? If they are a sub contractor and you are doing the buisness and marketing end, what do you work out that they are still making good money, and that you are getting your part for everything??? I so have no idea how this all works. I also don't think that it would be a partnership due to the fact that I have been already building the biz for the last 4 years. Any info on the logistics?? Thanks again!
 


Sorry it took long to reply.

I'm sharing a space with 2 other therapists. Out of a country club. The deal that we worked out is that we split the rent BUT the other therapists were there before I was but they are strictly back up therapists. One sees her own clients out of the space and isn't taking on any new clients. The other one is a back up therapist for me and also sees her own clients out of there. We provide our own supplies (lotions etc.) and do our own laundry. I am responsible for rent (rents flow through me), and marketing and keeping the schedule.

The deal that I had with the therapist that I replaced (confusing I know) was that I gave her a perceneforum.xxxe of the clients that I saw, whether they were her clients or mine. But she was responsible for the rent and scheduling.

I plan on keeping the space that I'm in busy and as soon as the schedule gets busy enough (afternoon clients) I will be bringing in another therapist and charging them a perceneforum.xxxe but I retain the responsibility for the rent, scheduling, and marketing.

Depending on what the other therapist would provide (lotions, oils, room upkeep/cleaning) you would probably want to charge a lower/higher perceneforum.xxxe.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  40. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
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