How to know when you need to sub-contract???

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Hi everyone!
I have been thinking lately about hiring a sub-contractor and I have no idea what to do or even if I should!! My situation is that I started my own practice 4 yrs ago and I have been doing quite well! I have a 4 yr old son and he really is my first priority, and I find myself haveing to really juggle work and family and I never really expected to get to the point of having to turn people away, but lately I have been crazy! My husband also owns his own buisness and I so a bit of work for that and I am going a bit NUTTY :smt119 That is why I am considering a sub contractor. Now my question is, how does it work, I mean people are being refered to ME, are they going to not want to see someone else? Now I do have a MT in mind that I would love to hire, she has been in the biz for over 12 yrs and she works at a spa, (where she really shouldn't be) and when asked why she isn't out on her own, she replyed that she really doesn't like the buisness aspect and likes to have a "pimp" :lol: so to speak. Now, I love the buisness and marketing aspect so I have no prob doing that, but what kind of thing do you work out?? I think that is it for now, just in need of assistance. Thanks in advance!
 


I am sooo in the same place with you. I, too, have a life (read family) outside of massage that is my priority. The family gets very jealous of what they consider "their" time. As well they should be. They are the balance, the touchstone, to your business.

I took over a massage practice in June from someone that had built it up over the past 5 years. So the client base is built in. I'm making a name for myself there (country club) in that I do a different type of massage in addition to the regular stress relieving massage that she did. I tend more toward RMI and problem prevention.

What I do when a client is wanting my services I try and channel them into times that work for me. That means 5 days a week and done by 2:30. If they are needing after that or the weekend, I let them know that my schedule is full during those times but if it's okay I have an on-call therapist that is available. Then I coordinate with her.

My goal is to eventually get enough clients coming through the room (we are a one room operation) that I hire another therapist that I can charge a % rather than just rent.

My advice is that if your client load is starting to compromise the quality of your work/your body AND starting to take time away from your family, then it's time.

Think of it this way... just cause you aren't rubbing on someone doesn't mean you aren't working. Taking care of the books and marketing is work too.
 
How to know when you need to sub-contract???

Moonstone said:
I never really expected to get to the point of having to turn people away, but lately I have been crazy!

Congratulations on your success!! So are you turning people away because you can't get them in the same week or are you two or three or six weeks booked out? Are you still working out of your home?

Moonstone said:
Now my question is, how does it work, I mean people are being refered to ME, are they going to not want to see someone else?

I was talking with Kneadfulthings recently and she made a great point to hire/contract with another MT who is better than you are, because then your clients will be in very good hands and they won't feel remorseful of the days they used to see you. At some point you will have to get someone else to join your business, and are you going to have them come over to your house to do business? At the point of adding a therapist to your business, you will probably want find a business location outside of your home, and start treating your business like a business where people get referred to the business and if they want a particular therapist then they schedule the appointment 4 weeks out (or whatever the next availability is for that therapist) and put their name on the cancellation list, or they go to another therapist in the same business.

Moonstone said:
Now, I love the buisness and marketing aspect so I have no prob doing that, but what kind of thing do you work out?? I think that is it for now, just in need of assistance.

I think it is time to think about the direction of your business. You have been at it for four years and it is successful. You offer massage, spa stuff, and energy work!!! It's time to expect your business to keep growing! What kind of work do you really want to focus on? How/Where do you want your business to grow? It might be time to consider renting/buying space if you are going to grow with other therapists involved. Otherwise you are just referring the referrals you get to another therapist for a one time fee.
 


All good questions and points akb!!
To answer your first question, I am booked about 3 weeks out, that is all I go into the future because I hate having people wait that long to get relief. So that is my personal policy.
As for the MT that I am looking at to hire, she is AMAZING, I would feel 100% confident that people would love her. And yes my buisness is in my home and I am looking into renting a studio that is right around the corner, it would be a studio, so we would split the time, but it is a great little place! I really need to start this now even thought I didn't think that I would do this for a few more years, but my husband and I are trying again for another baby and I want to be able to take some time off after the baby is born and not have to fell worried or guilty that my clients are anxiously awaiting my return!?? But another question is, what do you work out with shared space? If they are a sub contractor and you are doing the buisness and marketing end, what do you work out that they are still making good money, and that you are getting your part for everything??? I so have no idea how this all works. I also don't think that it would be a partnership due to the fact that I have been already building the biz for the last 4 years. Any info on the logistics?? Thanks again!
 


Sorry it took long to reply.

I'm sharing a space with 2 other therapists. Out of a country club. The deal that we worked out is that we split the rent BUT the other therapists were there before I was but they are strictly back up therapists. One sees her own clients out of the space and isn't taking on any new clients. The other one is a back up therapist for me and also sees her own clients out of there. We provide our own supplies (lotions etc.) and do our own laundry. I am responsible for rent (rents flow through me), and marketing and keeping the schedule.

The deal that I had with the therapist that I replaced (confusing I know) was that I gave her a perceneforum.xxxe of the clients that I saw, whether they were her clients or mine. But she was responsible for the rent and scheduling.

I plan on keeping the space that I'm in busy and as soon as the schedule gets busy enough (afternoon clients) I will be bringing in another therapist and charging them a perceneforum.xxxe but I retain the responsibility for the rent, scheduling, and marketing.

Depending on what the other therapist would provide (lotions, oils, room upkeep/cleaning) you would probably want to charge a lower/higher perceneforum.xxxe.
 
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    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi๏ผŒlong legs ,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair mina smile,beautiful strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience amazing body slide โค๏ธnice Vietnamese Amy open mind,everything she can do,really popular girl,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ‘
  39. Withme_Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’•โฃ4386 Sheppard Avenue east ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’˜Monday, ๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹ Cici, ๐Ÿ’—tall and slim, nice personality, pretty, very good pressure point treatment and over the top finish technique..๐Ÿ’‹โฃ Natalia, โคa full body Spanish lady, curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹โ€ŠEva, ๐Ÿ’–curvy, beautiful, awesome treatment and memorable finish . ๐Ÿ’ž Jessica,๐Ÿ’‹ slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ”‹416 297-7488๐Ÿ”‹
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : CLOUDIA is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. JESSICA is from Hong Kong, super busty D Cup, 5'2", 109 Lbs, curvy, soft white skin
  42. lemon_tree:
    ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’•a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201๐Ÿ’—โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–Monday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Carmen,๐Ÿ’‹ (Candy) โฃbeautiful, dark hair to shoulder, tall and slim but busty, and does very relaxing treatment with over the top finish. *Also goes by Lily. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ“ž647 348-2899๐Ÿ“ž
  43. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA, ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ MADY (11AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  44. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  45. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (8PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Yumi & Cindy. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    ๐ŸŒนWe're waiting for you!๐ŸŒน Today (Monday), our amazing attendants are Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Lucy ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿ˜˜, Mia ๐Ÿค— and Sophie ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, LINDA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! LINDA is a sweet Vietnamese honey with great skills. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with
  49. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดMonday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’‹ Tammy, โฃfull body treatment by an amazing attendant. good overall treatment. ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
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