If you want a massage, better hurry!

[Cabinmon]

The first thing I always want to ask people who say this is, if it cannot go from one person to another, where will it go to hide until the people come back out. Do they (the virus) go to some lookout tower and watch for the people to come back out and them go jump them?

Old Fart! The common cold is the oldest Corona Virus known to man. Big Pharm and the medical community has been trying for decades to rid humanity of this virus. Once it’s here, it’s not going away, considering most of the world has been infected

 

[Albert Johnson]

Sorry Rubmegood. My fault for this getting sidetracked. That wasn't the intent of my comment. Just my reasoning for stepping out of this activity for awhile. Suggest we open a Covid thread where we can all be experts and let off a bit of steam that is building in Society

 

[Deleted member 79939]

I just came out of significant surgery recently which puts me at a higher risk. It is not going to take any extra effort to not expose myself to the stew that is floating around on increasing levels out there. Listen to the scientists. Vaccine is on the way.

Hope U feel better
Listen to musical chill
Do u watch Netflix

 

[Rubmegood]

Sorry Rubmegood. My fault for this getting sidetracked.

I should have known it would take off this way! It's just the way things are going (restrictions wise) it looks like another lockdown is imminent so get your massages before it happens.

 

[Old Fart]

Those billions were "earned" by using our labour. By using our roads and telecommunications systems and electrical grids and water and sewer systems. Those billions were earned by educated workers that are healthy thanks to publicly funded education and health care. We all did it, we all played a role, and only a few of us shared in the massive amounts of GDP generated in the last 40 years. This hoarding has to stop.

I think I get where you are coming from but at the same time, people have to learn to save. Too many people over spend and then the slightest issue like illness, interest rate hike etc and their life gets turned upside down. Bankruptcy used to be embarrassing when I was a young but today it is almost a right of passage. How many tie have you heard of guys working the rigs making big money, come home Friday night, hit the bars and get back on the bus Monday morning with not a penny to their name. They are not hoarding but they are not helping society when debts go unpaid. Not everyone is benefiting. The bar industry sure is bt not many others. What ever happened to being able to live for tree months with no income because of your emergency fund?

 

[Deleted member 72001]

.............What ever happened to being able to live for tree months with no income because of your emergency fund?

Takes some discipline to achieve that. (Took me 40 years to recognize the importance of an emergency fund)
I was a check to check guy. Took one missed mortgage payment to smarten me up.
.................oh ya, go get a massage before things shut down!! (Feeww, back on track. Eh RMG? )

 

[Wills_willie]

People are not contagious for the rest of their lives. This is why a lockdown can work. After time, the virus dies within your body (or you die) and if during the period before that happens you don't come in contact with people, then you've limited the spread. The issue we have now is that we have so many people in all parts of society that are carriers, that even a pretty aggressive lockdown probably won't stop it. The other thing that locking down does is allow the health care system to deal with cases at a manageable rate.

One thing we need to rethink as we go forward is how fragile our society and economic systems are. We've undermined our ability to deal with a nation wide crisis to the point where we can barely sustain even a few weeks of economic inactivity. This means we need a major overhaul. The 41 wealthiest Canadians have enough wealth to have paid for the entire CERB program and then some. We have trillions of dollars sitting idle in personal wealth and corporate treasuries, contributing zero to the economy and zero to the national crisis at hand. Working class people are barely making it, or not making it, and governments have to go into massive debt to keep the nation barely afloat. Meanwhile, Canadian billionaires added $37B (and rising) to their personal wealth in the last eight months. "Oh, but they earned their billions, so leave them alone." No, they didn't. We ALL did.

Those billions were "earned" by using our labour. By using our roads and telecommunications systems and electrical grids and water and sewer systems. Those billions were earned by educated workers that are healthy thanks to publicly funded education and health care. We all did it, we all played a role, and only a few of us shared in the massive amounts of GDP generated in the last 40 years. This hoarding has to stop.

Hey Bill. Just commenting on your money hoarding part. You do realize that those big corporations pay more in taxes, levies and utility bills combined than the total paid by the you and Me's of this country. They provide gainful employment to us and then it's up to us to save for emergencies. I used to work for a major utility and I know where their major income is generated, it's not from the residential sector, not by a long shot.
Just sayin.

 

[Deleted member 79939]

Pussy closes on Friday , this Friday.
I bet you.
NO more pussy.

 

[m694ever]

Nooo! Back to sneaking in back doors, parking in alleys and stepping on mouse traps? I finally got all the cat shit off my shoes.

 

[bigbill]

Hey Bill. Just commenting on your money hoarding part. You do realize that those big corporations pay more in taxes, levies and utility bills combined than the total paid by the you and Me's of this country. They provide gainful employment to us and then it's up to us to save for emergencies. I used to work for a major utility and I know where their major income is generated, it's not from the residential sector, not by a long shot.
Just sayin.

Corporate taxes and taxes on the wealthy are at an all time low compared to the post WW2 era. There are literally trillions of dollars sitting idle A lot of large companies don't have investment opportunities enough, so the cash sits, and sits. Dramatic increases in the productivity of labour mean less need for hiring even when there is expansion opportunity, and the jobs that are being created are mostly low paying service jobs. Real wages have been stagnant for decades. Suncor is just one example. They received a windfall of nearly a billion dollars via the latest corporate tax cut, and have not only not hired anyone, they are laying off people. These already-profitable companies aren't hurting for cash, they're not hiring because there's no need for the labour. We just took a billion dollars out of the economy, poof. Corporate tax reductions are waaaaaaaay down the list of effective job creation strategies.

Utilities should be government entities as they are only efficient as monopolies. Building competitive infrastructure is insane. I agree with consumption fees, but the cost of infrastructure (in the case of electricity, generation and wires) should be tax funded and the assets held by the public. Then we can come up with subsidization systems for remote customers to help grow the nation. I was an economist that consulted on the deregulation of electricity in Alberta in the 90s and the future played out pretty much exactly as my paper predicted. The Klein government saw telephony as the model, where rates "dramatically dropped" with dereg. But they didn't. They shifted. Long distance rates were high and subsidized basic local home phone service, allowing cheap and easy access to a phone. Long distance rates dropped, but basic service rates went up a lot. Also, the government refused to believe that telephony and electrical supply were different. Ugh. Ratepayers have received no benefits to electrical deregulation. Worse even, some generation assets were sold for pennies on the dollar, which I'm not sure was theft, or incompetence. Or both?

The upshot of it all is the economic system should be working to serve citizens. People. If we need to restructure the tax and monetary system so that half the people in the nation don't go into personal bankruptcy with a two week shut down for a pandemic, then we need to do that. If we want to keep the current economic system, then we need to make some changes to increase personal wealth and security. We're becoming increasingly, and dangerously, income and wealth diverse, and that's not good. It's not good for the long run economy and it's terrible for democracy. And this needs to be a coordinated strategy with the other 19 nations in the G20. Tax havens, shelters and the ability of companies and individuals to avoid taxes and hoard trillions of dollars is hurting nearly every citizen. If you want to do business in these 20 countries, then you have to pay. Period.

 

[Wills_willie]

Well, I'm mostly here to discuss massages and the extras. Not looking for a discussion on world economics or Alberta's electrical system, that was my occupation and definitely not interested in that anymore. People need to look after themselves economically, maybe as a society we should be doing a better job of educating our children.
Nuff said

 

[sleeker]

Let’s get back on topic boys

 

[m694ever]

Let’s get back on topic boys

Yah..... more posts on titties, beer, and HE’s. This forums for overweight doucebags looking for a thrill. Leave the COVID shit for mcleans.

 

[Friendly Man]

I agree

 

[Albert Johnson]

I just got some better news than I expected. It's still not the best, but I may just venture out to meet Molly in the near future. She is very strict on her protocols.

 

[Guy2013]

Vaccines aren’t reliable

Really, when was the last time you seen a case of Smallpox or Polio?

 

[Old Fart]

People need to look after themselves economically,

Agreed. Pandemics are something beyond our individual control, as far as it starting but it should not have hurt people as much as it did if they plan their lives better.

maybe as a society we should be doing a better job of educating our children.

Yes, education provides job training but not nearly enough life skills.

 

[Deleted member 72001]

........”for overweight doucebags”........

HEY! I resemble the remark thank you very mu..........oh...........right

 

[Old Fart]

Let’s get back on topic boys

It is on topic. Topic was get massage ASAP (before shut down). Problem is that while there is bellyaching about jobs, reason to get massage should not be based on shutdown but based on staying safe and being able to afford.
Too many will not be able to afford but still go just because of possible shutdown. Getting sick of doing my part to stop spread while others keep spreading. It's like charity, I work to pay for me and the welfare bums who sleeps and goes to the casino.

 

[dirtyoldman]

I betcha dollars to donuts we're headed for another lockdown!

i dont give me fuck