Incidental contact

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Hi all,

About a year ago I started treating myself to a massage every 3-4 weeks. A few months ago, my therapist sold her practice and moved away. I've had 4 massages with the new therapist, and she is awesome. I don't know how to describe it but it's like she's doing a dance, and it feels wonderful.

During the last session, a couple of things happened, and I'm not sure what to make of them.

I was lying on my back while she massaged my hands and arms. As she was holding my arm doing her thing, my fingers brushed against her breast. I assumed it was incidental and spent the next minute trying to fight off an erection. After my hands, she moved behind me and started on my neck. She must have been leaning over me, because I could feel her necklace dangling against my forehead. Then I felt what I'm pretty sure were her breasts grazing against the top of my forehead, several times. I'm only 95% sure because I kept my eyes closed, but what else could it be? Anyway, that gave me a full erection that lasted a couple of minutes. That didn't seem to bother her as she was especially warm with me afterwards.

My question - was all this incidental? I'd be inclined to dismiss it as such, but neither of these things has ever happened to me during a massage before, and she's a veteran pro who knows her way around a massage table.

Either way, I'll continue to see her, but hoping y'all might have some insight.

Thanks!
 
Incidental contact

You are dreaming buddy. It's all in your head, the one on your shoulders. A quick Google of your user name confirms it, for me at least.
 
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I'm certainly not dreaming. I'm curious which of the google hits "confirms it" for you - the profile on passion.com I put up years ago? Ok, well I admit to having used internet dating sites, but that has no relevance here.

I'm asking an honest question. This happened a week ago today, and I can't stop thinking about it.

Today I decided to search the web to see how embarrassed I should be about the erection, and found this forum along with a lot of helpful information on that subject. I was also curious whether it's considered weird for me to keep my eyes closed during the massage, and learned that it's not.

Now I'm hoping someone here can tell me whether this kind of contact could happen accidentally.

Thanks.
 
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1969libertine said:
I'm certainly not dreaming.

I'm asking an honest question. This happened a week ago today, and
I can't stop thinking about it.

Now I'm hoping someone here can tell me whether this kind of contact could happen accidentally.

Thanks.

Right.

No one is going to feed your fantasy.

How about them Packers?
 
Incidental contact

I gather from your reply that this kind of contact isn't normal at all, or you'd be telling me it was an accident, and I shouldn't make anything of it.

That's what my gut tells me as well, and like I said, nothing like that ever happened in the dozens of previous massages I've had. It's good to get confirmation from someone in this field. Thanks.

I guess she's either genuinely into me, or she's just trying to drum up more business from me.

P.S. What you're "feeding" is more curiosity than fantasy. And I'd never do something as cheesy as hitting on a massage therapist.
 
Incidental contact

So, the situation is this: you have had regular massage with another therapist at a rate of approximately once per month for one year. That means, if you were seeing a professional therapist who didn't act unprofessionally, you should know how a session is performed and what is and is not acceptable behaviour.

Because of this time frame in which you have had massage sessions, I am not sure why you don't know what to make of the incidental contact with the new therapist.

It is possible that your new therapists body mechanics are off for some reason and that is why she has accidentally touched you with parts of her body that shouldn't be touching you. With a large breasted therapist this can occasionally occur if the therapist is not extra attentive to their frame, is tired or is so comfortable with their body that they have stopped considering how incidental contact may affect the client. These are considered poor form in massage therapy.

To have a necklace dangling into a clients face is a big *no-no* in my book. So, no matter how many years of experience she has or how well she knows her way around the table, I have the feeling she is either obviously sloppy with her work, or you may have happened on a questionable therapist.

As far as erections, most therapists concentrated on their work actually will never see them or if they do, will ignore them. But, you should also know, that as a rule, it is rare for established clients in the therapeutic setting to have them. When you do the math, it is about 1 in 2,000 to 4,000 clients. Usually erections come in the form of new clients to a practice. And, usually those clients are released from the practice if it continues or becomes distracting. You can also wear underware if you feel this is going to be an ongoing problem for you and something you haven't learned how to control.

So, my advice is either stop thinking about it and move forward with your work with this therapist - being aware that there may be other issues at hand.

Or if you find you have a questionable therapist, just remember that she is probably more interested in the green in your wallet than any genuine interst you may be wondering about. And, if you want to put your money into a pit like that, then that would be your own choosing.


A quote from a post I wrote for my blog a while back:

Professional massage therapists donโ€™t date clients.



Clients can choose to maintain a realistic therapist-client relationship and can find someone other than their therapist with the qualities they may desire in a mate.

It canโ€™t be repeated enough, it is a shame to lose a good therapist-client relationship based on a simple hope of a future personal relationship that would then have to stand the test of time.
 
Incidental contact

It seems your profession has to fend off a good number of lonely, delusional, or entitled men with unrealistic expectations, so I appreciate your taking me at my word and not tossing me into that bucket.

Most likely explanation is she's focusing on the money. Given that this practice is only a few months old, she may have some financial anxiety. Also, I pay in cash and tip very well, so I'm guessing she makes twice as much from me as she does from her insurance clients, so it would make sense for her to try to get me in more frequently.

That doesn't bother me, though. I can't fault someone for trying to make a living, and her massages are exceptional. Should any more erections pop up (hasn't been a problem until her breasts got into the picture), I'm not going to stress about it.
 
Incidental contact

1969libertine said:
That's what my gut tells me as well, and like I said, nothing like that ever happened in the dozens of previous massages I've had. It's good to get confirmation from someone in this field. Thanks.

I guess she's either genuinely into me, or she's just trying to drum up more business from me.

1969libertine said:
Most likely explanation is she's focusing on the money. Given that this practice is only a few months old, she may have some financial anxiety. Also, I pay in cash and tip very well, so I'm guessing she makes twice as much from me as she does from her insurance clients, so it would make sense for her to try to get me in more frequently.


All of your assumptions play into your fantasy. You say you are guessing, I say you are hoping. From what you have told us, your MT has done nothing to let you know she is focusing on money or has financial anxiety. As for being genuinely into you, she hasn't done anything to positively confirm that either. You just want to think she has. The only thing you have done on your part is pay in cash and tip well. That does not make you deserving of any sexual benefits. If that is what you want, go look for one of those Asian places. They aren't difficult to find and you won't have to be coy about it.
 
Incidental contact

Original Poster, what led you to choose your username?
 
Incidental contact

@peacenut - I have no expectations from her other than the great massages she gives. If she wants to brush her breasts against me as well, which did in fact happen, that's fine, it's her show. Look, I've been reading some other threads and I now understand that this is a sensitive topic for y'all. Sorry for stumbling in here with all my blathering.

@jdcan - 1969 is my birth year, and I am somewhat of a libertine in my philosophical outlook, if not my lifestyle. Believe me, if I was looking for a happy ending, I'd contact one of the many women out there who advertise those services. Or more likely, I'd just contact my wife. It baffles me that guys looking for release end up in your offices - it's like showing up at a Burger King and demanding a Big Mac.

Happy endings, god bless them, are no substitute for a therapeutic massage administered by a skilled practitioner. I started massage after tweaking a back muscle weight lifting about a year ago, and now I do it regularly because I think it makes me a happier and healthier person.
 
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OP, thank you for the reply.

I also once had an otherwise good therapist who was sloppy as to her awareness of her non-working body parts. There wasn't any non-professional intention. Just unawareness.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Sexy Busty Girl Faye, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Chloe beautiful good body BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN OR FAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  34. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLAUDIA: is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbj
  35. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒนwelcome toWonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,๐Ÿ”ฅ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower is available ,every day 4 nice girls working,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is very beautiful face long leg friendly ,nice body slide,really popular must try๐ŸŒนlong hair Mina strong to relax oil massage,back walk,nice sexy body slice.amazing ending,๐Ÿ”ฅbring you comfortable time
  36. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  37. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  38. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
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  42. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cutie & Yumi. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cutie is young, very pretty, long hair, great services. Yumi is a young half Chinese / /half Korean very sexy
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open kind and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY, FIONA & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. CINDY is slim
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, MIA, NANCY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  46. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have three girls working today, Vivi, Sarah and Kiki. They are young, beautiful, sexy and cute. They can give massages and are also fun
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜so open service ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ Sweet girl Luna deep massage ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  48. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนSuperstar Julie, Fun Girl Bonnie, Indian Girl Meera and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  49. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Sexy Busty Girl Faye, Young RMT Student Helen, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! Chloe beautiful good body BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌHELEN OR FAYE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Kelly Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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