Incidental contact

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Hi all,

About a year ago I started treating myself to a massage every 3-4 weeks. A few months ago, my therapist sold her practice and moved away. I've had 4 massages with the new therapist, and she is awesome. I don't know how to describe it but it's like she's doing a dance, and it feels wonderful.

During the last session, a couple of things happened, and I'm not sure what to make of them.

I was lying on my back while she massaged my hands and arms. As she was holding my arm doing her thing, my fingers brushed against her breast. I assumed it was incidental and spent the next minute trying to fight off an erection. After my hands, she moved behind me and started on my neck. She must have been leaning over me, because I could feel her necklace dangling against my forehead. Then I felt what I'm pretty sure were her breasts grazing against the top of my forehead, several times. I'm only 95% sure because I kept my eyes closed, but what else could it be? Anyway, that gave me a full erection that lasted a couple of minutes. That didn't seem to bother her as she was especially warm with me afterwards.

My question - was all this incidental? I'd be inclined to dismiss it as such, but neither of these things has ever happened to me during a massage before, and she's a veteran pro who knows her way around a massage table.

Either way, I'll continue to see her, but hoping y'all might have some insight.

Thanks!
 
Incidental contact

You are dreaming buddy. It's all in your head, the one on your shoulders. A quick Google of your user name confirms it, for me at least.
 
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I'm certainly not dreaming. I'm curious which of the google hits "confirms it" for you - the profile on passion.com I put up years ago? Ok, well I admit to having used internet dating sites, but that has no relevance here.

I'm asking an honest question. This happened a week ago today, and I can't stop thinking about it.

Today I decided to search the web to see how embarrassed I should be about the erection, and found this forum along with a lot of helpful information on that subject. I was also curious whether it's considered weird for me to keep my eyes closed during the massage, and learned that it's not.

Now I'm hoping someone here can tell me whether this kind of contact could happen accidentally.

Thanks.
 
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1969libertine said:
I'm certainly not dreaming.

I'm asking an honest question. This happened a week ago today, and
I can't stop thinking about it.

Now I'm hoping someone here can tell me whether this kind of contact could happen accidentally.

Thanks.

Right.

No one is going to feed your fantasy.

How about them Packers?
 
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I gather from your reply that this kind of contact isn't normal at all, or you'd be telling me it was an accident, and I shouldn't make anything of it.

That's what my gut tells me as well, and like I said, nothing like that ever happened in the dozens of previous massages I've had. It's good to get confirmation from someone in this field. Thanks.

I guess she's either genuinely into me, or she's just trying to drum up more business from me.

P.S. What you're "feeding" is more curiosity than fantasy. And I'd never do something as cheesy as hitting on a massage therapist.
 
Incidental contact

So, the situation is this: you have had regular massage with another therapist at a rate of approximately once per month for one year. That means, if you were seeing a professional therapist who didn't act unprofessionally, you should know how a session is performed and what is and is not acceptable behaviour.

Because of this time frame in which you have had massage sessions, I am not sure why you don't know what to make of the incidental contact with the new therapist.

It is possible that your new therapists body mechanics are off for some reason and that is why she has accidentally touched you with parts of her body that shouldn't be touching you. With a large breasted therapist this can occasionally occur if the therapist is not extra attentive to their frame, is tired or is so comfortable with their body that they have stopped considering how incidental contact may affect the client. These are considered poor form in massage therapy.

To have a necklace dangling into a clients face is a big *no-no* in my book. So, no matter how many years of experience she has or how well she knows her way around the table, I have the feeling she is either obviously sloppy with her work, or you may have happened on a questionable therapist.

As far as erections, most therapists concentrated on their work actually will never see them or if they do, will ignore them. But, you should also know, that as a rule, it is rare for established clients in the therapeutic setting to have them. When you do the math, it is about 1 in 2,000 to 4,000 clients. Usually erections come in the form of new clients to a practice. And, usually those clients are released from the practice if it continues or becomes distracting. You can also wear underware if you feel this is going to be an ongoing problem for you and something you haven't learned how to control.

So, my advice is either stop thinking about it and move forward with your work with this therapist - being aware that there may be other issues at hand.

Or if you find you have a questionable therapist, just remember that she is probably more interested in the green in your wallet than any genuine interst you may be wondering about. And, if you want to put your money into a pit like that, then that would be your own choosing.


A quote from a post I wrote for my blog a while back:

Professional massage therapists donโ€™t date clients.



Clients can choose to maintain a realistic therapist-client relationship and can find someone other than their therapist with the qualities they may desire in a mate.

It canโ€™t be repeated enough, it is a shame to lose a good therapist-client relationship based on a simple hope of a future personal relationship that would then have to stand the test of time.
 
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It seems your profession has to fend off a good number of lonely, delusional, or entitled men with unrealistic expectations, so I appreciate your taking me at my word and not tossing me into that bucket.

Most likely explanation is she's focusing on the money. Given that this practice is only a few months old, she may have some financial anxiety. Also, I pay in cash and tip very well, so I'm guessing she makes twice as much from me as she does from her insurance clients, so it would make sense for her to try to get me in more frequently.

That doesn't bother me, though. I can't fault someone for trying to make a living, and her massages are exceptional. Should any more erections pop up (hasn't been a problem until her breasts got into the picture), I'm not going to stress about it.
 
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1969libertine said:
That's what my gut tells me as well, and like I said, nothing like that ever happened in the dozens of previous massages I've had. It's good to get confirmation from someone in this field. Thanks.

I guess she's either genuinely into me, or she's just trying to drum up more business from me.

1969libertine said:
Most likely explanation is she's focusing on the money. Given that this practice is only a few months old, she may have some financial anxiety. Also, I pay in cash and tip very well, so I'm guessing she makes twice as much from me as she does from her insurance clients, so it would make sense for her to try to get me in more frequently.


All of your assumptions play into your fantasy. You say you are guessing, I say you are hoping. From what you have told us, your MT has done nothing to let you know she is focusing on money or has financial anxiety. As for being genuinely into you, she hasn't done anything to positively confirm that either. You just want to think she has. The only thing you have done on your part is pay in cash and tip well. That does not make you deserving of any sexual benefits. If that is what you want, go look for one of those Asian places. They aren't difficult to find and you won't have to be coy about it.
 
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Original Poster, what led you to choose your username?
 
Incidental contact

@peacenut - I have no expectations from her other than the great massages she gives. If she wants to brush her breasts against me as well, which did in fact happen, that's fine, it's her show. Look, I've been reading some other threads and I now understand that this is a sensitive topic for y'all. Sorry for stumbling in here with all my blathering.

@jdcan - 1969 is my birth year, and I am somewhat of a libertine in my philosophical outlook, if not my lifestyle. Believe me, if I was looking for a happy ending, I'd contact one of the many women out there who advertise those services. Or more likely, I'd just contact my wife. It baffles me that guys looking for release end up in your offices - it's like showing up at a Burger King and demanding a Big Mac.

Happy endings, god bless them, are no substitute for a therapeutic massage administered by a skilled practitioner. I started massage after tweaking a back muscle weight lifting about a year ago, and now I do it regularly because I think it makes me a happier and healthier person.
 
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OP, thank you for the reply.

I also once had an otherwise good therapist who was sloppy as to her awareness of her non-working body parts. There wasn't any non-professional intention. Just unawareness.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New โ—๏ธ New girl Anna dainty and cute! Sexy body Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of p
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Tuesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Mimi,natural c cup,very good looking amazing massage nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Lucy Q smile,very good strong to relax oil ,back walk,more experience ๐Ÿ˜ปvery popular girl,more experience,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธIsabella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  44. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Young Beauties Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY (12pm-9pm) is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs
  45. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMA, JENNY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. CINDY is slim
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIMI, JENNY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. JENNY is a sweet & young Korean girl with C Cups. Very versatile services.
  48. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธAnna๐ŸŒธXukaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and young Taiwanese Victoria slime 25โ€™s open mind, young sexy Sophia with curve body 30โ€™s and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, ANGEL, SONIA, PRIYA, AMANDA, PAOLA, PREETI, KIRAN, ANGELINA, MONIKA, SALMA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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