justswimmin
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Ok, I get you (a bit more anyways) but your post did come off as a bit of a, "it's all bullshit" attitude.
Yes the "green" movement is often rife with hypocrisy. For eg: the prius. It has yet to be proven just how green it is. Sure it burns less gasoline (but not a whole lot less, in fact, MORE than an equivolent diesel vehicle) but the energy cost to build it, build the batteries, and what about the environmental impact of the batteries when they are used it? What happens then?
There was a study done a few years ago where they looked at R & D costs, manufacturing costs, lifespan, etc and they found that a HUMMER of all things was one of the most energy EFFICIENT vehicles around because the developmental costs were offset by millions of production models, it used existing technologies, was simple to manufacture etc etc.
Another good example of this is public transit. Everyone thinks it's so green right? Wrong. It is only green when it is used at capacity and that happens only a few times a day. A bus driving down the road empty or with 1 person on board is 10x more inefficient than a compact car with 1 person. Just think of the energy a subway train consumes and a lot of the time, it will only have 10 or 20 people on board.
I remember hearing on the radio about how each person in Canada puts out about 500 lbs of garbage a year. I said "not me". I put out 1 shopping bag of garbage every 2 weeks. I recycle 99% of all paper products and all cans tins and plastic containers. Now that I have a wood burning furnace, I even recycle my offcuts of my wood.
Yes the "green" movement is often rife with hypocrisy. For eg: the prius. It has yet to be proven just how green it is. Sure it burns less gasoline (but not a whole lot less, in fact, MORE than an equivolent diesel vehicle) but the energy cost to build it, build the batteries, and what about the environmental impact of the batteries when they are used it? What happens then?
There was a study done a few years ago where they looked at R & D costs, manufacturing costs, lifespan, etc and they found that a HUMMER of all things was one of the most energy EFFICIENT vehicles around because the developmental costs were offset by millions of production models, it used existing technologies, was simple to manufacture etc etc.
Another good example of this is public transit. Everyone thinks it's so green right? Wrong. It is only green when it is used at capacity and that happens only a few times a day. A bus driving down the road empty or with 1 person on board is 10x more inefficient than a compact car with 1 person. Just think of the energy a subway train consumes and a lot of the time, it will only have 10 or 20 people on board.
I remember hearing on the radio about how each person in Canada puts out about 500 lbs of garbage a year. I said "not me". I put out 1 shopping bag of garbage every 2 weeks. I recycle 99% of all paper products and all cans tins and plastic containers. Now that I have a wood burning furnace, I even recycle my offcuts of my wood.