Ivana, the deal breaker, not what you might think.

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Well I was board, and the wife was working...that makes for a bad combo...

no one was working at SRM, HFH or allure that I happen to like. The dam Utopia pictures finally got me. Booking Ivana was easy and arrived on time. Have not been to this place in years...the renovation was impressive (it always was neat here, when i first started this dam past time it was here with alexis and i enjoyed the spa then..) The rooms are nice, showers good.

In walks Ivana...2 minutes later when i could talk I opted for the BS. She ask for soft/hard massage...hard is tough with those nails of her's but she did pull off a decent massage that worked out a kink or two.

The BS was interesting, she was wearing a corsette, which she left on. She was accomodating, and a few of my earlier questions in a previous post about language skills were positively answered in a number of great ways...

Afterwards, I hoped in the shower...she rubbed off the oil from the upper half, with alcohol ... and got dressed, I asked her if she was showering elsewhere...she said she would refresh elsewhere...that's usually np, means a shower elsewhere like plat's...i expected she would be gone for a bit...

1 minute later fully dressed, in she walks...:eek:

now i don't know if she showers after she says good bye..but.. that's a deal breaker...which is really too bad...there is massive potential with this young lady...

she was running behind...out 30minutes hit the 45 mark... and there was someone waiting...and she was wearing a corsette and extremely hot fishnet stockings...it was 2 hours into her night...but...

...hygiene counts...or at least the perception of it...

anyone know if they shower infront of clients at Utopia as a Rule? was this just an odd one off? hope so, as mentioned before, she has massive potential in looks, personality, and service...

I had a great time with her till this point...its a small one...but...a biggy...

I need a new hobby if this stuff is starting to bug me...golf is only marginally more expensive...
 
Nope, UR 100% correct on this one...

Proper hygiene is NOT subject to "YMMV"... it should be a given :eek:

Hopefully Utopia's management brings this to her Attn: ASAP
 
New acronym, CS(corsette slide). Only from the beautiful mind of Ivana could this new technique have originated.
 
Thanks for the review!!!

Link:
http://www.utopiamassage.com/ivana.html#

VBB
 
I have seen Ivana 3 times so far, First time was a 9+ session(So obviously nothing negative was noted at least initially) 2nd time was 8+ & yes, the Corset stayed on & quick cleaning job was noted right at the sink.

Third time around I insisted on taking that corset off (Being a connisseuer of fine bodies, I love the Nr part . but she kept it on along with the stockings.
She promised that she won't wear it the next time around and how hard it is to get rid of something like this & so on.........

My theory is because she likes to wear a lot of make up and keeps her Lovely hair down, she does not want to get it ruined by taking 8 to 10 showers a day & obviously she does not like to take the corset or stocking off.

So it is very safe to assume that she does not take any shower per shift just a quick clean at the sink.

Took me a while to realize that ,but to be fair I was expecting her to be terrible the first time around and she was just amazing, then the 2nd time was solid enough utilizing the similiar tricks but a bit rushed so some flaws were noticed ..............

Too bad as this girl is just sizziling hot, A total Centrefold material. With a face of an angel. Does know a lot of tricks to tease. so much potential . In fact the first time around she reminded me a lot like an even hotter version of the famous Barbie(I.e Nikki from Srm fame).Her web pics does not do any justice as she is 100 times better looking in person.

If she can get on the track she has got everything to become the superstar of Utopia.
 
She has been in my TDL but these now she is out...
If I pay for a BS I better get a fucking booty slide no a corset slide.
and the shower thing is just NASTY.....at the end of a hard working day she must be sticky as hell!

She's OUT!
 
That's too bad - she was on my to do list - her pics are amazing - but not washing after is way too skanky for me
 
As I said before that the first session was soo good that I did not notice it, 2nd time around I gave her the benefit of the doubt. figured it out the 3rd time around. Sounds stupid but all I can say in my defense is that My mind goes somewhere else ,in the presence of beauty.

No, I doubt that she has got any flaw on her abdomen, I think she does not take the corset out because of convenience.
 
She never said that she does not take a shower.
We have just figured it out, mostly because of the corset & stockings ,which re always there. Maybe she does take a shower or 2 but not always after a session.
 
I think showers after a session or at least taking a minimum of 5 minutes with some baby wipes, running water and hot moist cloths to scrub the private areas, should be pretty much mandatory. Now showers with the lady either before or after the session are also important and always appreciated.

I don't think any lady wants to see a guy who is RANCID and smells like shit because he took a hearty dump just before coming to the place and did not wipe his ass properly and has shit still clinging to his buttcrack/or smells because he jerked off 3 times before going to the place and didn't even bother to shower off the jizz stuck to his pubes before heading out... and it is always nice to see ladies who don't have nasty smells coming from their vaginas.

I mean is showering really so difficult? Hell I think most MPS should just do either shower or hot tub massages, then we can all be reasonably sure that both SP and Client are somewhat clean before the session is over.
 
I had a session with Ivana a few weeks back. Like you MILUPA it was my first with her, had a wonderful time and did'nt notice anything. She was the next closes to Jenna Jameson I could touch lol. I was looking forward to book another session with her but after reading this.....I'm not so sure now.
 
can you imagine? I am sure it happens where the dude, walks in, skips the shower and then is told when the attendent walks in...

shower or no session...

ah well. just gonna stick to the one i currently enjoy seeing, till she tosses me out.
 
I have seen Ivana numerous times, both at Enigma as well as currently Utopia, i have never had an issue with smell or odour, she has always been fresh and delivered the massage that i went in to get. I don't think we should accuse the girl of not showering, how do we know what she does when our session is over. I don't think a girl as popular and classy as Ivana would have worked for some of the top spas in the city if this was the case. I think its a bad assumtion to make, and as i said she's always been a pleasure to see.
 
I have also seen Ivana a few times, I saw her again today.. There was an AMAZING lineup at Utopia...lots of SUPER hotties! Im actually quite impressed~.Paris and Emma were SMOKING HOT.. was hard to choose.. I didnt notice that she smelled... super soft skin.. cute face and great personality!
 
never said she smelled or had an odour (perfume...). re-read the post. hygiene might involve not putting the out fit on till after you clean up a bit..putting the outfit back on, to leave to take a shower elsewhere sorta defeats the purpose of taking the shower ( the outfit will be exposed to the oil sweat of the dude she was just with, so she might re-pick something up she washed away in the shower). That or having the same corset rubbing up against multiple dudes is about the same as not bothering to change the towels between sessions...which would freak people out if you saw an ass stain on the towel when you walked into the room? don't you think?
 
You guys are bordering on silly.

First off, many busy MPA's dont shower in the same room as you, they will go into another room and shower there. I cant speak for Ivana but based on what I'm seeing posted here, there are no odours, she smells fresh... tells me that she is changing her clothes as well, otherwise it would smell after the 2nd client she does a bodyslide for.

I highly doubt a girl as good looking as her would slack on her hygiene standards. Give it a rest guys.
 
Bordering? No pal, they've fucking crossed that border a long time ago.
 
The power of massageplanet.net/the market speaks or how an otherwise beautifully packaged product that failed to deliver upon it's launch in late Jan. has undergone reformulations since then based upon market feedback to better position itself as a more market oriented product.

I have seen Ivana since early Feb. And all the comments written about her are true. Rushed and rehearsed service, corsette slide and drinking water/coffee during massage, so dolled-up and made-up to the point of not wanting to be "messed up" during the massage because it would take too long to be put back together....and yes the non-full showering fits in because the probability of messing up her hair and makeup is high and the redressing would be time consuming.

Say what you will, but i have seen her long enough to have witnessed transformations in her. Believe me, if she could escape from the massage session "unscathed" she would and did for a couple of months. But when the negative feedbacks started arriving on massageplanet.net, she has slightly altered her approach. More customer oriented and inter-active than at first....but still.

Now the non-full showering issue has provided a large hurdle for her to clear. She always presented herself as clean and fresh to me, but then again i have seen her mostly as her first client of the day.....though I have never witnessed her showering.

She doesn't like to get "messed up", even co-workers have commented how she exits the room looking like she just stepped out of a hair and beauty salon.....which is usually not the case with most MPAs.

It's been a tough transition for her(negative feedback) because it affected her possible future income but mostly because it affected the way she wanted to provide her service to clients.

The market has spoken.
 
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    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Sunny friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…joey is very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch,amazing massage very popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful long hair Lucy strong to relax massage,hot stone,cupping Q girl ๐Ÿ˜€๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅ
  33. Q Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’Q SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…4465 SHEPPARD AVENUE EAST UNIT #27โœ… SCARBOROUGH - BRIMLEY & SHEPPARD โ˜Ž๏ธ(647)727-2577โ˜Ž๏ธSPA LANDLINE โ˜Ž๏ธ(249)874-2628โ˜Ž๏ธ โœ…OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAYโœ… ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…TWO NEW ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXCELLENT MASSAGE+ ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXTRA SERVICES AVAILABLE ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’Q SPA IS YOUR IDEAL MASSAGE + SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS SPA WITH YOUNG ASIAN SEXY PETITE GIRLS๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’ ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF GIRLS WORKING IN OUR SPA EVERYDAY๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ Available Girls Working Today: Jessica๐Ÿ’- One of our true superstar girls, Jessica h
  34. OrchidSPA:
    Today we have Sofia & New Girl Mimi. ๐Ÿ”ฅ Sofia is Slim, Cute and Openminded.๐ŸคฉMimi is 5' 3" tall with D Cups.๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Drop In and Enjoy A Delicious & Satisfying Experience Today! ๐Ÿคฉ OPEN: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ 437-220-6963 ~ Unit#103 3601 Highway 7, Markham, ON L3R 0M3
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  36. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธPhilippine๐ŸŒธMalaysia ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  37. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  40. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address: 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  41. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMONIKA, PRIYA, NINA, SUMMER, MONICA, ASHA, PREETI, NISHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  42. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: KITTY : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k, all services that u like! LUCY: is a young & busty Taiwanese cutie with natural D Cups, slightly curvy round ass
  43. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body.
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy black girl, only 53 Kgs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sophia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  48. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ella ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Sexy Curvy Chinese Sasa, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 3 girls are working today, New ,young pretty Lily23โ€™s ๐Ÿ’•slim Curved body shap big boobs Mia ๐Ÿ’•and sexy Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
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