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There are enough jealous therapists who can't seem to get enough customers and even fewer repeats. (Continued from previous post).


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There are enough jealous therapists who can't seem to get enough customers and even fewer repeats. (Continued from previous post).


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These jealous therapists think that the success of a few good therapists is the reason that their businesses are not thriving. It never occurs to them to try to understand why a few are very successful, and then try to develop their own successes business model through continuous improvements. Self examination and a reality check require immense personal maturity.


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Spexx, as a gentle piece of advice, I would not post information on the type of building etc that someone we care about operates in. Imho, the less info, the better.


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Point taken. I have removed that.
 
Point taken. I have removed that.

Unfortunately, we have another post repeating this info. Sad. Do ppl not realize that it is the hundreds of RMTs or competitors who can't seem to get their businesses going read these threads and then whine and file complaints to the associations and the insurance companies? It would be too much effort to examine their own shortcomings. I am not saying that massages need to include he, just that customers need to be wowed by the massage itself.... yeah real work for 60 or 90 minutes, not 10 minutes of hard work in a 60m session. The other side of massage, where they give a sub par massage for 50 minutes and then want to make a killing in the last few minutes with a jackhammer he are crooks too. 2200 hrs permit or not. Those ones, I may call the insurance companies, myself ;).


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True that. I keep forgetting how much insurance is a scam. Their primary goal is to find reasoning to deny. For every one adjuster, there are probably 2 people looking for a way to deny a claim.
Morality in the eyes of insurance companies still see’s the world with a ‘50’s view and being Alberta, the capital of the overly righteous in Canada, there’s little the more open minded folks like myself can do.
Reminds me of the article in yesterday’s paper on how a private event of naturalists to hold a nude swim at a pool was cancelled because of fear for the backlash. Supposedly a gaggle of bible thumping, tambourine whacking, protesters threatened to rally at the pool. Just shows you how closed minded people still are.
You removed my your post (and I deleted mine) but you quoted me so the info is still there.

And buddy, this has nothing to do with living in the 50's vs being so open minded today. Insurance companies are protecting themselves AND THEIR POLICY HOLDERS against fraud. I, AS AN INSURANCE CO CUSTOMER, APPRECIATE THAT FACT !!!!!
I am open minded to. Go forth as spread your seed, get massages, happy endings BJ's, Get laid, go travelling to Greece but pay for it out of YOUR pocket. DO NOT EXPECT ME (thru my insurance premium) TO PAY FOR YOU TO HET LAID !!!!!

Health insurance is a benefit that protects us from high medical costs when we are sick, not a way to get other people laid.
 
You removed my your post (and I deleted mine) but you quoted me so the info is still there.

And buddy, this has nothing to do with living in the 50's vs being so open minded today. Insurance companies are protecting themselves AND THEIR POLICY HOLDERS against fraud. I, AS AN INSURANCE CO CUSTOMER, APPRECIATE THAT FACT !!!!!
I am open minded to. Go forth as spread your seed, get massages, happy endings BJ's, Get laid, go travelling to Greece but pay for it out of YOUR pocket. DO NOT EXPECT ME (thru my insurance premium) TO PAY FOR YOU TO HET LAID !!!!!

Health insurance is a benefit that protects us from high medical costs when we are sick, not a way to get other people laid.
Maybe I didn’t explain my views well. I too pay a pretty penny for insurance and as of yet have not utilized my massage benefits as I don’t have issues requiring a prescription. Having said that I see NO immorality with claiming $80 for a massage from a RMT who is recognized by my insurance company. Each massage I have received from a RMT registered location was therapeutic. I walked away with less stress and less soreness, which is by definition one of the many goals and benefits of a massage. What may or may not transpire that I am happy to provide a “tip” to, comes out of my pocket and NOT yours.
If my only goal was the extra services provided, I sure as hell wouldn’t waste my time with RMT’s. There are plenty of “sure things” out there who are better looking and provide a great deal more in that department for the same amount.
The morality I speak of is in relation to the soapbox you are standing on right now. MY interest in claiming a massage through MY insurance, for a therapeutic treatment by a registered massuse is MY right as a policy holder. Judging that and insinuating that because there may be extra services provided for additional cost, defrauds the claimable massage is Horseshit. My insurance provides coverage for massages because we have stress and soreness in our lives, if I am to claim them for services that remedy that, then WTF is the problem.
If I go to the dentist and get a cleaning, and ask for fluoride, I pay out of pocket because that isn’t covered. I by no way am taking advantage of the system. What I claimed, I received, the rest is my responsibility and my business to choose if that extra is worth my money.
You seem very passionate about this, but please step down off the soapbox. Yes insurance companies have a responsibility to investigate against fraud but if you actually believe their primary goal is to protect you, they’ve done a stellar job selling you their horseshit. Insurance is one of the most lucrative scams out there. They take way more than they give and if you do seriously need their assistance, good luck.
 
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First off, you are the one on a soap box against insurance companies. If you hate them so much, don't become a customer except in situations where you have to.
I did not say their motive is to protect me, but if ANY business wants customers, they need to keep costs/prices reasonable (loss prevention in ANY business) so they ARE indirectly protecting me.
I am not on a soap box, because I feel exactly what you posted THIS time when you did explain your views well. If you need a massages, claim that, pay for extras out of your own pocket, no problem.
I am sorry that you feel I am on a soapbox because I do not want to pay for everyone else's HJ's (as I clearly stated).
And yes, I am passionate about not getting ripped off. We all should be.
 
First off, you are the one on a soap box against insurance companies. If you hate them so much, don't become a customer except in situations where you have to.
I did not say their motive is to protect me, but if ANY business wants customers, they need to keep costs/prices reasonable (loss prevention in ANY business) so they ARE indirectly protecting me.
I am not on a soap box, because I feel exactly what you posted THIS time when you did explain your views well. If you need a massages, claim that, pay for extras out of your own pocket, no problem.
I am sorry that you feel I am on a soapbox because I do not want to pay for everyone else's HJ's (as I clearly stated).
And yes, I am passionate about not getting ripped off. We all should be.
Ok and once again things go sideways because of misunderstanding. I guess I just assumed the RMT’s who provide receipts only provide for the value of the posted price of the massage. If there are some providing receipts for everything, then I too have a serious issue with that. In that case the provider is risking being blacklisted and the client fucking us all over.
I don’t hate insurance companies. I understand their place in society, but It really does seem like I give way more than receive. Perhaps that’s an opinion from someone who has never REALLY needed to claim a serious claim.
I guess, WTF do I really know?
 
So you and I agree lol. As far as Insurance companies go, yes it can be frustrating to deal with them, I too feel like I have give them more than I get from them but... maybe we should just be thankful that we have never needed them for anything major i.e. we have had no major losses.
All businesses are in business for profit and I never begrudge a person making a profit. Same reason you and I go to work. Make money to pay our bills and if smart, have some 'profit' left over for unexpected events or retirement. The concept of insurance is a great idea but yes, sometimes you feel like you are not treated fairly.
As I said, be thankful you never had a serious claim. Think of it as peace of mind for something you hope you never need to use.
 
You removed my your post (and I deleted mine) but you quoted me so the info is still there.

And buddy, this has nothing to do with living in the 50's vs being so open minded today. Insurance companies are protecting themselves AND THEIR POLICY HOLDERS against fraud. I, AS AN INSURANCE CO CUSTOMER, APPRECIATE THAT FACT !!!!!
I am open minded to. Go forth as spread your seed, get massages, happy endings BJ's, Get laid, go travelling to Greece but pay for it out of YOUR pocket. DO NOT EXPECT ME (thru my insurance premium) TO PAY FOR YOU TO HET LAID !!!!!

Health insurance is a benefit that protects us from high medical costs when we are sick, not a way to get other people laid.
high costs...increases to your premiums for massage claims...get hold of yourself and/or take a giant leap off your high horse.....massage claims to multi billion dollar insurance companies are tantamount to an old fart in a windstorm..
 
Sorry Michael. I gave my high horse to Old Fart. 1. I've heard he had some experience taming high horses. 2. I got tired of her smoking all my weed and eating all my Doritos. 3. I couldn't claim her as a dependent so I could get her massages claimed.

On a sidenote: 1. I know how bad it is to fart in a windstorm...especially if it's blowing in your direction. 2. You should never have to take a giant leap off of any horse, high or not. Stay seated at all times.
 
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Sorry Michael. I gave my high horse to Old Fart. 1. I've heard he had some experience taming high horses. 2. I got tired of her smoking all my weed and eating all my Doritos. 3. I couldn't claim her as a dependent so I could get her massages claimed.

On a sidenote: 1. I know how bad it is to fart in a windstorm...especially if it's blowing in your direction. 2. You should never have to take a giant leap off of any horse, high or not. Stay seated at all times.

LOL, you on a high horse??? Too funny. Remember, I am blocking those ass clowns whose spewings I choose to ignore.
Guessing someone has a differing opinion than you so that puts you on a "high horse"? LOL. Good Idea to stay seated.
PS. Thanks for the horse. I see what you mean about the weed so I sent her to my brother in BC. He has a weed farm. One particular dry summer, it caught fire. The whole town was so happy.
 
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LOL, you on a high horse??? Too funny. Remember, I am blocking those ass clowns whose spewings I choose to ignore.
Guessing someone has a differing opinion than you so that puts you on a "high horse"? LOL. Good Idea to stay seated.
PS. Thanks for the horse. I see what you mean about the weed so I sent her to my brother in BC. He has a weed farm. One particular dry summer, it caught fire. The whole town was so happy.
Actually...it was directed at you, (as he was had one of your quotes attached)...so good for you using the ignore feature.

I don't think I understood what his position was: But it came across that he fealt its not a big deal that insurance companies are defrauded....because they are "multibillion dollar companies".
 
he felt its not a big deal that insurance companies are defrauded....because they are "multibillion dollar companies".
OOOOOOH...That changes everything then. I did not realize they were that well off.
In that case I must apologize and change my tune. That fact makes it fine to rip off insurance companies LOL. Lets add robbing banks to that too. Their profits are thru the roof every quarter too!!! :rolleyes:
Looks like I picked a good one to block LOL.
 
Hey Old fart
I don't think anyone is claiming any additional for their HE. People can legitimately claim for an hour therapeutic massage.
From any legitimate massage practitioner.
I certainly would never condone any one being reimbursed for something inappropriate and I don't hear anyone here suggesting that.
If they have a relationship that involves additional services afterword that is between them. It certainly does not get claimed for
 
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    𝗧𝗛𝗨𝗥𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Fox, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹[/color] 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ FOX is 26 years old with 34C’s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👄👄👅👅🈵🈵
  40. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅🥳
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️EMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    ✨Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! ✅ Today🌸Aletta🌸Alisa🌸Isabella🌸Nina🌸Selina Call us ☎ 905 - 265 - 2158☎️ Your ultimate service awaits! ✨
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 5 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30’s open mind with big buttocks and young new pretty Lily 25’s with curve body,Young sweet Vivian 22’s, cute GFE Ella and sexy naughty Tina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything.
  47. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Meet🌸LuLu🌸Valentina🌸KarlaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  48. See You Health Center:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Lin Very Young, Petite
Vietnamese Student
With Spicy Slim Body
5’ 1”, 100 lbs Blonde Hair
Great BBJ, CIM Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service ☎️416-988-2950
  49. Annie Spa:
    Our famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday November 7th with gorgeous young girls Cici and Coco🔥😘 Suki only works on Thursdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advance…it’s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa when Suki is working 💯😘❤️🥰 Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments 💯❤️🙏🏻 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8896 416-291-8879
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese, Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
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