Monke,
I thought the indoctrination period has since passed. Nonetheless, I must, once again, draw my dusty sword and stand guard. Did I forget to mention that I love debates? Only through passionate debate, we can discover who we really are.
As mongers, we all know the rules. Get caught, go to jail and suffer the negative publicity. But as mongers, we must hold ourselves to higher ethical guidelines. Such moral boundaries would prevent us from revealing a working girl's true identity, if we are privileged to learn it at first. At least that's true in my case, as hell will need to freeze over first, before I will reveal a single name or phone number.
However, when I am sitting in an 8’x10’ interrogation room below the swinging overhead lights, I will use my knowledge of this industry and its participants to my advaneforum.xxxe. What can I say; self preservation supersedes all other needs.
Will you, or anyone for that matter, be willing to provide credible intelligence on any single individual and her activities outside of work, including her real name? Would you really want to? I don’t see any benefits in doing so, and the content of this forum is, in the end, fiction at its best.
Despite how these ladies have wronged us in the past, I firmly believe that we would not stoop to such level.
Only a small, extremely limited, portion of this forum can identify a working girl outside her professional environment. From the eccentric names they use to the excessive make up they wear, all are effectively used to mask their true identity and offers the protective blanket of deniability. Although I have seen one in the past who kept in contact with all her regulars, that’s an isolated case.
If you were involved with a working girl, how would you bring up such topic? "Hey, honey. I heard your friend Kay swallows," or "I heard she is married to so and so. Don't they live in so and so?" I think we are much more refined than that. How would your special someone respond? I believe you risk having argument, of even ending your relationship, for allowing such words to sputter from your mouth.
Allow me to refresh your memory on tort law: Defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory representation. Libel involves the making of defamatory statements in a printed medium.
In other words, if false statements are made about a working girl, which has in someway affected her ability to pursue her individual sense of happiness, then it’s slander. Based on this definition and if we hold their working names to be their only identifying attribute, who, on this board, think they possess such power? I certainly don't. I would argue further that these ladies would have some sense of exultation from the virtual attention we give them.
For illustrative purposes, if one were to fabricate the following statement "[insert working name] is indeed [insert real name] currently residing at [insert location] and married to [insert real husband name]. She suffers from [insert incurable disease]." Consequently, her husband divorces her because he checks this forum. That, my esteem critic, would constitute as slander.
Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice," or the intent to harm. Who here nurtures such intent? I certainly don’t, for I want this industry to grow (better selections for us all).
Celebrities or famous individuals are elevated for variety of reasons. In other words, these renown individuals are the products of societal admiration often caused by their talents, attractiveness, wealth, etc. My comments regarding this point may be dumb; however, it does not hold a light to your feebleminded retort.
Let’s see, how exactly working at a massage parlor constitutes as notoriety? Simply scroll through the pages of this forum; which girl gives the best BJ, which girl likes DATY, which one takes you to Greek, and which one sticks her finger up your ass. It’s all there. Although these individuals are not in the societal spotlight, they are in our spotlight as we often reminisce our “All Time Favorites,” and the things they did to us or allow us to do to them.
Like Michael Vick, these girls are in the entertainment business. Based on your argument, you must not know of Vick’s current scandal. After all, he is a just football player. How exactly is playing football an act of putting his personal life in the spotlight? So what if he kills dog for fun; that’s his business, and it should not concern us. If the rest of the world shares your mindset, then the need to surpass our own limitations to rise to greatness would simply disappear. What will the gifted do with their god-given talents, and what will the world do without them?
Being famous, whether for giving the best head or throwing the most complete passes, one accepts the responsibilities and consequences of prominence, and the most pivotal consequence of all is the constant struggle to live under the glaring spotlight.
Perhaps you’ve forgotten, Kimchi said he will post my picture in the Spas, as no one here knows who I am. However, if my picture were to be placed here, then it’s just a consequence of the choices I’ve made. I have no one else to blame but me.
Do you really think that such immoral and unethical behavior will be tolerated (not to mention that it would violate Mr. Jackson's guidelines)? If we resort to such cowardly acts, then the reputations and identities of all who pay for services at AMP will be at risk. This means that we all must be prepared to stop patronizing the AMPs, if we choose to cross each other.
Instead, we, as a group, should mourn when a fellow monger is caught, give them advice, and guide them through their legal troubles. Some of you, A John for example, can certainly elaborate on this point. Think of it as monger’s unspoken etiquette.
You, of all people, should know that money brings an unlimited supply of resources, regardless of legality. You would be amazed to know what’s out there for the choosing. Unfortunately, I don’t have much faith in PIs. The only thing that separates us from them is access to LexisNexis.
My words are, indeed, linked to this site forever. However, I alone am the guardian of that fact and it will die with me.
The contents of my posts indicate a strong sense of passion and engagement in my interests, far from “attention-starved,” as you’ve categorized them to be. Nonetheless, I’ve addressed this point in the past and will not repeat myself. Feel free to discover them at your own leisure.
I am not a stranger to being under the spotlight. Consequently, I don’t like it. It is really hot when the lights shine on you. The need to constantly maintain a thick and artificial decorum is simply unbearable.
Like many of you, I’m lucky in that I have some inside knowledge of this subculture. I have in the past shared them with this board; however, I have since changed my views on that.
It dawn on me recently during another debate with an individual in this industry, one little piece of information fallen into the wrong hands could have catastrophic consequences to this volatile hobby. Remember Black Wednesday, that’s the consequence of one individual confiding in who he thought, was a friend.
In the past couple of weeks, I have withheld information including all the encounters I was privileged to, the area’s closings, and management changes as I venture to AMPs at least twice a week.
The board’s collective knowledge far exceeds mine in all regards, and anything that I may contribute is simply re-stating the facts. I, like all who contributed to this board, have yet to put any working girl's identity at risk.
However, I am very intrigued to ascertain your true motivations for these attacks on my pieces. Perhaps, I have spoken ill about your special someone or are you that naive to believe that revealing an alias might prevent her from living her life to the fullest?
Ian
PS: Are you personally affected by the people who testified? How did you know I wasn't? Just because I don't come crying to the board doesn't mean I was personally affected by the events that lead to Black Wednesday.
PPS: Sorry for the length, I am somewhat thorough.