Migraines in Adolescents

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I've had two people in the last two years bring their children in for us to try and help them with their migraines. We are considered one of their last hopes.

The first time, the child was 10-11 and he's had migraines for two years. The parents brought the child to a number of doctors, specialists, etc. with no answer. I don't feel that I was able to help him either.

Within the past month, a mother brought her 15-16 year old with the same thing! Numerous doctors, diet plans, medicines, ...the works! The client has had migraines for the past 5 years. Both cases said that the migraines are constant.

One of them said that the doctor prescribed Neurontin and even THAT doesn't help! (I think that doctors give this medicine when the reason for pain isn't clear and this just deadens the nerves)

Has anyone run into anything like this?
 


Has anyone tried craniosacral therapy for these kids? CST helps settle mine when even Rx meds don't work because it helps "unstick" the sutural joints and get the dura and spinal fluid moving properly again.

Just a suggestion
 


When my son had migraines, we found that he was allergic to both msg and to a red dye - Red 40. Eliminating those from his diet eliminated his migraines completely. Drinking peppermint tea (or eating peppermint leaves off the plant at times when he was desperate to stop a migraine as it got started) would eliminate the pain within minutes and keep him from the nausea and vomiting. He would still sleep a good 12 hours, but skipped to that instead of suffering for hours, first.

From a massage standpoint, TPs in the pterygoid can cause migraines, and often require intra-oral massage.

If you have a good reference for what trigger points can refer to the head, you can check for those, too. If you could deal with it by relieving TPs in the traps, for instance, you wouldn't need to try the intra-oral work at all. In this day of constant computer and video game usage, a child could easily have a lot of TPs and other muscular and fascial restrictions.
 
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Can you believe no one at the facility (including myself :( ) knows CST??

Am I allowed to mention the peppermint tea to the client or would that be considered outside of my scope of practice? (Since they have to consume it, would it be for a nutritionist or something?)
 
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tksbussong said:
Has anyone run into anything like this?

Not as a professional, but I've lived it. I've had migraines since I was a child. Earliest I remember were at 5 y.o., but my parents tell me they think I had my first one at 6 months old.

I've tried every remedy I know of (although I have never heard of the peppermint one. I will be trying that this morning. I've had this migraine since Saturday.) There is medication that works for me about 50% of the time, but it cannot be prescribed to children.

The thing to keep in mind about children, migraines and massage (and I've said this before,) is that even if your treatment doesn't reduce or eliminate the migraine, it gives the subject a temporary break from the pain. This is very valuable, as it allows the person to recoup.

The worst thing about chronic migraine (besides the actual pain,) is that it is so constant, sometimes you feel like you are going insane. 30 minutes of massage can (literally) be a lifesaver.
 
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Breathe said:
The thing to keep in mind about children, migraines and massage (and I've said this before,) is that even if your treatment doesn't reduce or eliminate the migraine, it gives the subject a temporary break from the pain. This is very valuable, as it allows the person to recoup.

The worst thing about chronic migraine (besides the actual pain,) is that it is so constant, sometimes you feel like you are going insane. 30 minutes of massage can (literally) be a lifesaver.

A little OT, but I remember learning that since migraines are circulatory, that working the head and neck would increase the vascular pressure and then make the migraine worse, or even trigger one. I suppose they were teaching this in relation to massage being effective at relieving tension HA. Would someone who knows mind clarifying this for me?
 
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ccMarie said:
A little OT, but I remember learning that since migraines are circulatory, that working the head and neck would increase the vascular pressure and then make the migraine worse, or even trigger one. I suppose they were teaching this in relation to massage being effective at relieving tension HA. Would someone who knows mind clarifying this for me?

As a sufferer of migraines since about age 10... I can also say massage can be a lifesaver. Sometimes you have to get to a knot that will set-up in the occiput and just work that puppy out. Then sleep it off or take your meds.

I am in my 40's so I don't take a lot of meds for my migraines and have them down to about 5 per year now (depending on stress and the like)... from at least every 3-6 weeks as a youngster / young adult. If I eat too much chocolate AND orange juice at the same time (within about a week), I'll get one.

I can't tell you what to do for a child in your practice, but I can tell you that even as a child, my dad would work "knots" out of my neck which would at least help diminish the problem for me back then.

I was put on migraine meds around age 14 --Midrin... nowdays, I can take Excedrin Migraine and sleep it off when I am lucky. Imitrex makes me vomit. :( If I get regular neck work though, I can go even longer without a migraine most times.


As a side note... I have a client who's daughter killed herself because of severe migraines. They can ruin a life / many lives in this case.
 


1 more odd thought about using CST for migraines ---- CST can also help to keep the sutural lines in "good working order" so that impingement in the sutural lines is not contributing to any other triggers that these kids are experiencing.

fwiw
 


Am I allowed to mention the peppermint tea to the client or would that be considered outside of my scope of practice? (Since they have to consume it, would it be for a nutritionist or something?)

I would be pretty cautious with this type of advice, it doesn't seem like a big deal really, but depending on your state laws you could be overstepping your boundaries. You could suggest to the parent to consult an herbalist, nutritional therapist, or something of that sort. If they are open to suggestions you could always get their e-mail address and you could send them information, since you would not be charging for the service and it would be viewed as a favor.
Have they looked into chiropractic therapy?
 
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tksbussong said:
Can you believe no one at the facility (including myself :( ) knows CST??

Am I allowed to mention the peppermint tea to the client or would that be considered outside of my scope of practice? (Since they have to consume it, would it be for a nutritionist or something?)

I have never told a client to try peppermint tea, but I have related my son's experience with it. I've also related that I've read of others using ice on their neck and heat on their feet simultaneously, ginger tea, dark, quiet rooms, etc. None of this could be construed as a prescription, but rather, "these are things I have heard of helping others".

I would keep it verbal, though, rather than email. Any email advice I'd offer would be very strictly within my scope of practice - how to find a particular muscle/muscle group to massage or stretch, etc. I'd think anything in writing *could* be considered a prescription and in my state that can only be massage related. Check with your state.
 
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I had migraines throughout my years in high school. Part of it was hereditary, my mom had them as a teenager, but part was also stress related. My parents separated the beginning of October my freshman year. My migraines started not soon after that. Coincidence? I think not. It got so bad that I was being sent home once a week. (This was from 93-94.) The doctors prescribed for me massageplanetergot, which is now Excedrin Migraine. If I got a migraine in school, I would goto the nurses office, take some, and sleep a couple of periods. So I'd only miss part of the day. The rest of the day afterwards wasn't pleasant, but it was bearable.

Oh, and a thing that would set the headache off all the time was flickering flourescent lights.

Just my story. Don't have much to add now about treating them as I don't get them anymore. Maybe once every 2-3 years.
 
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I'm also a migraine sufferer. I have multiple triggers, and they tend to go on for 2 to 4 days at a time.

I have found that I can not have any artificial sweeter - at least in anything larger than what is in sugar free gum. I am going to have to perhaps give that up as well.

I know a D.C. who said that he tried doing some self massage on the middle of his abs, up high near the xyphoid process while he had his back extended like laying on one of those big exercise balls. I tried this and used VERY LITTLE pressure, just basically rubbed there and the pain was intense. Even the next day. The point of this is that he gets migraines like clockwork and doing massage like that on himself he said that he caused a delay in symptoms for a few days which was SIGNIFICANT for him.

So far I have found that codeine helps me the most. I also have tried Maxalt, but I really don't notice any difference with that medication. I am looking to try biofeedback and see if I have some success with that.

It is my opinion that migraines come on from so many different reasons and that is why they are hard to nail down with one fix it solution. The only real similarity is the fact that they can be severely debilitating. I actually go into a panic/anxiety mode when I start to even hint at a headache. I am sure that makes it worse. :roll: I don't think I am alone in having that feeling since we know what we may be in for - for days at a time.
 
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I started having migraines at the age of 16. At first, I would get 1-2 debilitating migraines a month. I figured that they were hormonal. By the time I had my first child and started massage school at the age of 23, I was up to 2-3 a WEEK. Each time I had one, I was down for the entire day. Not very good when trying to go to school and have a little one. When I was in massage school, the Chiro that taught my Pathology course explained to me that I might have a cranial issue. She uses AK in her adjustments, and when testing me, discovered that I had a sphenoid tilt. She adjust this, and I did not have a migraine for 2 years when I hit my head again. This time, it was a frontal shift. But that's what worked for me.. Now I am migraine free!
 
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  31. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  32. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Viennese ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  33. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (2PM), ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  34. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  35. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (12PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธMilly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธMonikaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Luna, Cindy, Coco,Cici, Jenny, Amber, JPN Yui, Akino, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  39. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  40. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on downtown Toronto 72 gerrard st west๏ผš๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹ New girl gaga Serving The Queen ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Bunny- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too Wendy- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MONICA, PAOLA, MALIYA, MONIKA, AMANDA, ASHA, JAZMINE, PREETI, ANGELINA, KIRAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy face young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,๐ŸŒนvery nice new girl CiCi, amazing the end,give you warm time,must try๐ŸŒน๐Ÿฅค
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11am-8pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. DORIS (12pm-9pm): from Taiwan, is young & petite with loing thick black hair, 105 Lbs
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Petite Korean๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ทGirl Eva working with Sweet Beautiful Japanese New Cummer to Canada Feifei ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and Sensual Pleasing Busty Coco๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณtoday๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Call or text ๐Ÿ“ฒ647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879๐Ÿ“ฒ
  47. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Wednesday), our amazing attendants are Carla โ€, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Opal ๐Ÿคฉ, Sandy ๐Ÿค— and Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, KIKI & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. Kiki is very popular for her great attitude and services. CINDY is slim & incredibly sexy
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: SARAH, SUSAN, TIFFANY & VIVI. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy Latina girl, 5'4" & 116 Lbs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services.
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