Mistakes to Avoid



Pete said:
One thing I really love is hot stone massage. I've done hot stone for my clients since 2002 and I know what good hot stone is. I hate getting BAD hot stone massage. I've had stone massages where the stones weren't hot enough - calling them lukewarm would be kind; I've had them where the MT only used stones on my back and nowhere else and charged more $ than I charge for a fullbody hot stoning; but the absolute worst one was the MT who didn't have enough stones, so she had to clean them off after she used each one so she could put it back in the roaster to reheat and reuse during the session. Every time she went to her roaster to get more stones, she'd be gone for what seemed to be 5 minutes. So my 90 minute hot stone was actually about 60 minutes of massage. UGH!

I totally agree! I love doing hot stone massage but since I'm the only one at our clinic that does it, I have to go elsewhere to recieve. I've also received "lukewarm" stone massage and it feels yucky! I've also had the one where they simply use a few stones on the back and call it a hot stone massage. I too feel cheated when they do that.

I have a question though about the one that took too long to get stones. You said that she had to clean them off before putting them back in the roaster. I'm confused by this? I was trained to reuse stones during a treatment session, but I simply put the stone back into the heater and reuse it once it's reheated. Since I completely clean the stones and heater in between clients why would I need to clean the stone between uses on the same client?? This makes no sense to me?

I've worked really hard to make sure that my time getting stones out of the heater is as short as possible. I have my stones arranged in the heater so I know exactly where to go to get the ones that I want. I have my heater placed in the most convenient location in the room.

Gosh....if anyone knows of any really good places in the Tampa/St Pete area to go for a hot stone massage, I'd love to know where. I'd really love to treat myself to one more often.

Angie
 


I was thinking that it's kinda funny really that some things that others hate, I love and visa versa. For instance:

melb said:
Coughing and snuffly nose sounds when there are 2 hands in contact with me (and only one therapist)

In school we were taught that you must never, ever cough into your hands while doing a massage. We were taught to that if we must cough, to bend our heads so that we were coughing into our shirts, like around the collar bone. If we forgot and coughed into our hands then we had to stop the massage and go wash and sanitize again.

i also really hate it when the top sheet is lifted way off of me as i turn over. makes me feel super exposed. oh and another, when the LMT actually lifts my leg up to drape the sheet underneath it. i can't help but wondering if my leg is too heavy and if they'll hurt their back.

I don't like it when they keep the drape "pinned" down and not give me enough room to turn. Especially if I've been face-down for a long time, I need wiggle-room to get my back going and my body turned over. I actually had a massage the other day where for the 1st time a therapist lifted my legs to tuck the sheet under. I thought it was kinda nice?

And unless your room is very warm (85 or more degrees) a towel just won't cut it.

Personally, I hate being draped with a sheet. I prefer the weight and heaviness of a towel. Now, I don't mean one of those thin 27x30 inch $2.00 specials. All of my towels are thick and at least 30x54. The ones I use for hot stone massage are 40x70 and I love them!

oh, adding to the whale music, bubbling brook music

I kinda like music with nature sounds added in. I wouldn't want to listen to JUST whales or brooks the whole time but when it's added to music and is more in the background, I think it's nice.

The thing that I couldn't agree more with is smoking!! I don't care how good of a massage you give, if you smell like smoke (and you will no matter how you try to mask it) then I won't see you again. I went to a therapist once and he was smoking outside as I pulled up. All during the massage all I could think about was the now my entire body was going to reek of his cigarettes. YUCK!

My other personal deal breaker is someone who ignores what I've asked. If I go to you asking you to concentrate on my NECK and you spend 90% of the time on my rhomboids (Yes, I know that all of us have tight rhomboids but that's not what's hurting me today) and then 5 minutes on my neck at the end of the massage, I'll never go back to you. LISTEN to me when I tell you what I'm looking for.

On the same page, don't say you can do a certain modality if you've never been trained in it. If I call and ask if you do myofascial and you say "yes" because you need to fill a spot in your appt. book, then when I come in for a treatment you simply fake it, I'll know.

Something else that I find annoying is when someone is doing NMT and everytime they hold a point they want to know the pain level on a scale of 1-10 and then ask me every few seconds "what is it now?" OMG I just want to scream! I'm trying to relax so you can do the work that needs to be done. How can I relax when you're asking me to concentrate on my pain and pick a number every minute or so??? A good, experienced therapist can tell by what the tissue is doing and the reactions of the client.

I also don't want to be asked every few minutes how the pressure is. When I start my massage, I give the client permission to let me know at anytime during the massage if the pressure needs to be adjusted and then I'll ask them once towards the beginning if it's ok. That's enough.

I also like a quiet massage. I may chit-chat for the 1st few minutes, but please don't keep talking after I've stopped answering.

Goodness....here I thought I was pretty easy to please and I've come up with all these pet peeves.
:oops:

Angie
 


Gosh this is making me kinda self-concious! :smt087

My stereo plays in the left ear of my clients! I have a fountain; do all of my clients have to pee? Do my linens smell? Is my table cushy enough? I have a blanket on my table; are all my male clients miserable??? Ack! :shock:
 


I do same as Pete, and I've always felt it's better to have far more stones than not enough and have to play the reheating game. I also empty & clean the heater and every individual stone and then replace and refill with fresh water between clients. Just not comfortable with the "turn up the heater really high for awhile" method I've seen some use.

Regarding lifting of legs...well, I'm one of these. If the legs are lying parallel, I dig my hands down into the padding (yet another example where extra padding pays off) to slide my hands up under to gently lift less than a half inch so I can slide them out to where I can actually reach them. What was really unnerving is the technique employed by one therapist--he raised my legs about a foot up to reposition them, then just suddenly let go so they plopped back down. :shock: :!: Of course, while working the legs we do fully pick them up for stretches and specific releases, but I never dreamed any of us would ever lower them in them in any way other than slowly and smoothly.

Isis, don't freak about your fountain. Why not just casually ask, "how do you like it?" to a few clients and see what they say. I'm not a fan of the 'bubbling brook' thing for the same reason, but ocean waves and rainstorms are wonderful--we're all different. A lot of people do love it and it may be for your clients the fountain is perfectly relaxing! Same thing with the men. If you're asking if they are comfortable and the tempurature's good and they say yes, don't worry about it.
 


Things NOT to do during MY massage:

Blow your nose then tuck the tissue into your pants pocket only partially, where it can touch me---UUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! and then add insult to injury by NOT cleaning off your hands with disinfectant before you touch me again........

Ask me to tell you what techniques you should be using to treat my spasming calf muscles or rigid rhomboids. If I'm on the table, that means you are the therapist - act like one!

Lean on me with your free hand --- I'm not a countertop, or a pillar, DO NOT REST YOUR LAZY SELF ON MY BODY!!!!!

Cough on me and I will scream at you, literally. Don't need the germs or the spittle!

Forget to work on areas that I have specifically named that need attention desperately.

Tell me I MUST have a pillow under my feet when prone --- if I tell you it makes the lordotic curvature in my back HURT WORSE, I mean just that.....

Don't get so busy talking about your life and your psychodrama that you forget to do massage on an entire limb or side of my body [true story - during one massage the gal FORGOT my L arm, L leg, both supine and prone]

Don't you dare answer the phone while you work on me. It's rude, unprofessional, and just plain not nice.


Unfortunately, all of the above have happened to me personally, at least once........ but LOL I survived and remember not to do any of them to my clients.
 
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  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey