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Have you been to Aqua Bay? Heard a mix of girls, some are more mature 30s and some younger 20s.
 
Hey XTC, new guy here, but not new to the business

In this post you've made I noticed a few things, at least some of which are not often done. You compliment the boss well and I like your writing style because it can effectively highlight important points, but you also provide some details informing how things work (could be the same or similar elsewhere as well I suppose) and that all goes toward supporting your statement. It's done short and it's done sweet, nice.

In my opinion, in cases like these (and there's many more variations, again imo), but specifically for now in this case you describe, is it really, really, B&S when you break it all down? Not writing here about what I consider "real" B&S, that being where there's an unmistakable conscious effort to purposely deceive and manipulate a client as "the" business model. As opposed to the "appearance" and resemblance of B&S due to strategic methods used going towards success in achieving not just a business model, but in support of the MPA, maintaining quality MPA's, and sustainability overall. The end result or hope is, an ability to better service the client, not simply take his money and give him the boot never to be seen again - like most real B&S places.

An example might be: An MPA has had no customers through half the day, the two or three other girls have all had both repeat appoints made, and each at least taking in a one walk-in. All walk-in's preferring the busy girls, maybe they heard of them before, or it was looks, who knows and does not matter. The MPA without work is maybe new, the Manager see's what's going on here, the other girl's see it too, I'm thinking most times they (busy girl's) are not heartless and may become somehow involved and even might ask themselves, "why is the Manager not doing more to try and get this new MPA work?" Or more selfishly, the busy MPA's might think, "When the time comes and I need some help, I hope the Manager steps up for me, not just in these cases but anything else that might arise?" The Managers thinking, "Well, come busy time certainly the new MPA will get work, but if this keeps up, she might walk before then. At busy time, I'm faced with 5 customers every 30 minutes (they know the flow) and I have only 2 - 3 MPA's. Clients will not be happy, and then they're going elsewhere you can bet on it = less business for the 2 - 3 MPA's going forward. This all is considered in a relatively short period, it's weighed. Next customer walks in the door, says "he called last evening" to make sure (a popular MPA) was working, client like some service asap. Manager say's, "Ya well, we had some issues." "But, you're in luck, we have this new girl, really good, you should take her?" Client immediately thinks to them self, "They lied to me, this is nothing more than B&S, this is not fair, I drove all the way here, I called them, this place sucks, they have a poor attitude, they lied, they don't care about customers, they don't listen, they are purposely trying to piss me off).

Meanwhile the SPA Manager likely knows what's going on in the client's head, see's it on his face, but she can't explain really much further, and besides it would not help. Sometimes the Manager might even say, if she has the goods, "You like me?" Client, "Well ya, you're hot and super smart, likely highly skilled." Manager, "You come with me then." Client leaves, still writes a negative review on a Board. The Manager gives some or all money to the new MPA.

Do you mostly agree with this type of thinking / scenario? Am I missing something, or is something above glaringly inaccurate in your experience? I was wondering about something at this time, especially after reading your post, thought I might ask you what you think? I had prepared a real long piece on B&S, really just that topic, but it's a super long read, way longer than what I posted here, which by your standards must seem like trilogy paperback novel already. Anyway, do you think posting something like that, a super long read on this Board is needed, would be accepted or even worth while?

The TL;DR version goes like, B&S - definition(s), misconception, example, roles within (client, manager, mpa), facts, known's, behaviours, accepting responsibility, a method to not only remove B&S but prevent it.

Just 4 Renee… shes the boss… gets awkward all yer staff sitting around & boss = busy… so she shares w them… ;)

Annoying f/ our perspective, but her staff think, wow, shes giving away $$$ … giving us new clients!

Notice how loyal her girls are? Go back & read 2018 reviews… Julia, Lucy, Cindy… all still there…. Coco’s practically the new girl, been there many years now… :read
 
Hey XTC, new guy here, but not new to the business

In this post you've made I noticed a few things, at least some of which are not often done. You compliment the boss well and I like your writing style because it can effectively highlight important points, but you also provide some details informing how things work (could be the same or similar elsewhere as well I suppose) and that all goes toward supporting your statement. It's done short and it's done sweet, nice.

In my opinion, in cases like these (and there's many more variations, again imo), but specifically for now in this case you describe, is it really, really, B&S when you break it all down? Not writing here about what I consider "real" B&S, that being where there's an unmistakable conscious effort to purposely deceive and manipulate a client as "the" business model. As opposed to the "appearance" and resemblance of B&S due to strategic methods used going towards success in achieving not just a business model, but in support of the MPA, maintaining quality MPA's, and sustainability overall. The end result or hope is, an ability to better service the client, not simply take his money and give him the boot never to be seen again - like most real B&S places.

An example might be: An MPA has had no customers through half the day, the two or three other girls have all had both repeat appoints made, and each at least taking in a one walk-in. All walk-in's preferring the busy girls, maybe they heard of them before, or it was looks, who knows and does not matter. The MPA without work is maybe new, the Manager see's what's going on here, the other girl's see it too, I'm thinking most times they (busy girl's) are not heartless and may become somehow involved and even might ask themselves, "why is the Manager not doing more to try and get this new MPA work?" Or more selfishly, the busy MPA's might think, "When the time comes and I need some help, I hope the Manager steps up for me, not just in these cases but anything else that might arise?" The Managers thinking, "Well, come busy time certainly the new MPA will get work, but if this keeps up, she might walk before then. At busy time, I'm faced with 5 customers every 30 minutes (they know the flow) and I have only 2 - 3 MPA's. Clients will not be happy, and then they're going elsewhere you can bet on it = less business for the 2 - 3 MPA's going forward. This all is considered in a relatively short period, it's weighed. Next customer walks in the door, says "he called last evening" to make sure (a popular MPA) was working, client like some service asap. Manager say's, "Ya well, we had some issues." "But, you're in luck, we have this new girl, really good, you should take her?" Client immediately thinks to them self, "They lied to me, this is nothing more than B&S, this is not fair, I drove all the way here, I called them, this place sucks, they have a poor attitude, they lied, they don't care about customers, they don't listen, they are purposely trying to piss me off).

Meanwhile the SPA Manager likely knows what's going on in the client's head, see's it on his face, but she can't explain really much further, and besides it would not help. Sometimes the Manager might even say, if she has the goods, "You like me?" Client, "Well ya, you're hot and super smart, likely highly skilled." Manager, "You come with me then." Client leaves, still writes a negative review on a Board. The Manager gives some or all money to the new MPA.

Do you mostly agree with this type of thinking / scenario? Am I missing something, or is something above glaringly inaccurate in your experience? I was wondering about something at this time, especially after reading your post, thought I might ask you what you think? I had prepared a real long piece on B&S, really just that topic, but it's a super long read, way longer than what I posted here, which by your standards must seem like trilogy paperback novel already. Anyway, do you think posting something like that, a super long read on this Board is needed, would be accepted or even worth while?

The TL;DR version goes like, B&S - definition(s), misconception, example, roles within (client, manager, mpa), facts, known's, behaviours, accepting responsibility, a method to not only remove B&S but prevent it.
U no… length only appreciated when it’s yer dick…

U gotta take scissors to that post! ✂

SL unique problem… spa mgr & owner = really hot :heart1 better than some of her girls… & she’s famous… @ least here… so lotsa guys book her w/o knowing her…

So Renee thinks, give him any Asian girl 👧, he’ll b happy… & she’s usually right… :)

But she did it 2me… substitue girl sat right in my lap b4 I new what’s happening… I literally lifted her 2 floor, got up, got dressed … & in came Renee! She ran, breathing hard…
She looked amazing! :hot

… but nvr booked Renee again…

Best solution 4 this problem… let dude spend a few delightful moments w other girl, then reveal, oh, u wanted Renee… shall I leave?

Now it’s not B&S…it’s free sample! Lemme tell u, any SL sits in yer lap, hugs & giggles… very very very difficult 2 change girls… 🍆

Ella @ Ellagance mebbe only similar owner/ mpa… but seems like she only jumps in when other girls= busy… Renee gets annoyed when she’s not working in the rm…

Thats mebbe best thing about Renee… she’s really enjoying herself… oh, & damn sexy if u dig Asian spinners… 😈
 
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Renee is a smart girl and she knows she is at her golden age (30+). She works for a few more years and some how she would gradually have to take a secondary role as a MPA. She would do whatever she can these few years to make money. She can then has the option to be like Ella@Ellagance, to work when other girls are busy or not to work at all. But in any case, she should be upfront with clients that she is not available but can have a good substitute.
 
U no… length only appreciated when it’s yer dick…

U gotta take scissors to that post! ✂

SL unique problem… spa mgr & owner = really hot :heart1 better than some of her girls… & she’s famous… @ least here… so lotsa guys book her w/o knowing her…

So Renee thinks, give him any Asian girl 👧, he’ll b happy… & she’s usually right… :)

But she did it 2me… substitue girl sat right in my lap b4 I new what’s happening… I literally lifted her 2 floor, got up, got dressed … & in came Renee! She ran, breathing hard…
She looked amazing! :hot

… but nvr booked Renee again…

Best solution 4 this problem… let dude spend a few delightful moments w other girl, then reveal, oh, u wanted Renee… shall I leave?

Now it’s not B&S…it’s free sample! Lemme tell u, any SL sits in yer lap, hugs & giggles… very very very difficult 2 change girls… 🍆

Ella @ Ellagance mebbe only similar owner/ mpa… but seems like she only jumps in when other girls= busy… Renee gets annoyed when she’s not working in the rm…

Thats mebbe best thing about Renee… she’s really enjoying herself… oh, & damn sexy if u dig Asian spinners… 😈
Damn!!! I need to get back to SL. Forgot how many good girls they actually have….
 
Renee is a smart girl and she knows she is at her golden age (30+). She works for a few more years and some how she would gradually have to take a secondary role as a MPA. She would do whatever she can these few years to make money. She can then has the option to be like Ella@Ellagance, to work when other girls are busy or not to work at all. But in any case, she should be upfront with clients that she is not available but can have a good substitute.
Right on with Ella. I wish she still works in Scarborough.
 
After seeing a post on Semi legit visits by someone, I want to start some discussions on semi holistic.

My top pick is Flirt

Plus:
Great line up of young girls of different background and all speak excellent English, good facilities with a shower in each room,
Not only the place is spotless, the girls keep their body fresh with cleaning between clients.
HJ/NR/BS/DATY/DATO/light fetish/tip included in the price. Extras may be available with reasonable tipping
The setting is good, pretty much insulated with no disturbance during the session. Only can hear spankling occassionally.
Appointment is nicely organised, allow booking a week in advance. Can see line up without a deposit
A loyalty program that allows one (room fee) free after 10 visits

Negative:
Information of the girls on the site was used to be reasonable accurate, although pictures have been photoshopped to hide less attractive parts and bump up features that are non-existing. However, I found recently, age and other info may be misleading.
Kissing is getting limited due to COVID. Many great talents were gone and the new bloods have a lot to catch up in servicing and providing a GFE.

I have seen Rachel, Ember, Masie and Kat (left) recently and have written reviews on them.

Shangri la

The place is decently kept in terms of Asian spas standard. Rooms with a share shower. Beside massage, it has table shower but the water flow and temperature may be unpredictable. Most girls can give a memorable experience to guests. I have seen Renee and CoCo; both have numerous reviews and I have nothing more to add. The place has been highly graded by many but I would put Flirt on top of it because the girls in Flirt are a bit younger and have nice body. The good thing is SL is keep improving in servicing and they listen to feedback here (I learned girls are showering between clients now). Also, now seldom have those complaints that happened in early stage of opening e.g. greedy in charges anymore. Glad to see SL is moving up on the whole and have more girls.

I am sure there are many more places and girls that worth seeing. I hope the above would start a delightful and unbiased exchange of information on Semi holistic playground. It would be nice that no promoter would take advantage of this thread to promote their spas and we, hobbyists can freely share our experience lovely.
The ladies spanking or being spanked at Flirt?
 
Could be both ways, depends on the girl. I would do it not to the extend to hurt anyone. One MPA who I had fun with did not want any red marks left on her body, therefore she did not want to being spanked continuously, but only one stroke at a time (with a break, spanking her left and right butt in alternative). Again, make sure the girl agrees and not to cause any unfavourable consequences to avoid trouble. If you are serious in this game, you can get a spanking board from the Manager. I never use one though.
 
I am sure you want to spank this Goddess too. Unfortunately, like many top talents, she retired and that's the issue that Flirt has now.
 

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    ✨Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! ✅ Today🌸Christina🌸Lynda🌸Tiffany🌸Zara🌸Akame Call us ☎ 905 - 265 - 2158☎️ Your ultimate service awaits! ✨
  31. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Meet🌸Maria🌸Tina🌸BreeCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  32. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today: ELLA : is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5’4” with C Cups.
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Jennifer -🔥😘A talented and graceful new massage girl from Taiwan, offering a trul
  34. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 ASHA, NISHA, NINA, AMANDA, MEERA, ANGELINA, PAYAL PEARL, ANGEL 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  35. wonderspa:
    🌺🌺Weclome to wonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)Rmt available on Wednesday,nice sexy big boots Joey ,new young girl Tiffany,very friendly very good looking Lucy on the duty, they all can provide excellent massage and nice touch ,body slide, make you really comfortable,must come to try☎️416-5000-800 🍷🍷
  36. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco😘- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  39. ASPA:
    𝗪𝗘𝗗𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Amy, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  40. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CARA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5’3” & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly with a host of services. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5’1” with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  42. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 ☎ 437-688-2407 ☎ Wednesday at AMORE SPA: [/color ANGELA & CHERRY. ANGELA (*New Today) CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. AMORE SPA is a well established holistic spa
  43. Sunrise Health Centre:
    🫦 Angela & Noor are here Today! 📞📲 (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. 💋 They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime 🚶‍♀️🚶➡️ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  44. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  45. See You Health Center:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Smoking Hot Body Candy She is a Vietnamese, Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️416-988-2950
  46. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natural D cup Boobs Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Yuki slime 30’s open mind and young sweet Mia 25’s, cute GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    🫦 Nayla & Vivian are in today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Mia😍 beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beauti
  50. pinklips:
    PINK LIPS ADULT AGENCY IN MUMBAI 💋💋💋 https://pinklips.co.in 🔥 🔥 🔥
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